using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc.
nope, crypto currency is legally property as is a big mac. Neither convey any legal rights other than under property law. Shares on the other hand convey rights under company law including a share of ownership of the actual brand. (look at it like shares are property with additional rights under company law, crypto currencies don't have those as they are just property) i am not a lawyer..but why do i feel that darkcoin is destroying my property and creating confusion by buying and selling their property under my property's name? Good thing Darkcoin isn't selling their property under your property's name. DASH =/= Dashcoin. Further, you're free to continue development at your own leisure. confusion is the word....calling it "DASH" but it is a coin...please don't tell me it is not a coin lol. |
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using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc.
nope, crypto currency is legally property as is a big mac. Neither convey any legal rights other than under property law. Shares on the other hand convey rights under company law including a share of ownership of the actual brand. (look at it like shares are property with additional rights under company law, crypto currencies don't have those as they are just property) i am not a lawyer..but why do i feel that darkcoin is destroying my property and creating confusion by buying and selling their property under my property's name? |
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Good luck with your taking advantage of those in vulnerable situations it must be great for your spirit. At present, the only vulnerable people who are being taken advantage of are the Dashcoin holders who should have been compensated. In my opinion, the next most vulnerable people are Darkcoin holders because of how this has all gone down. Allow me to summarize how I see this proceeding: 1. The opposing company gets the trademark contesting notice. 2. They sit around and ask, "What the fuck is a Darkcoin and Dashcoin" and start to do their research. Once they get a feel for what is going on... 3. Their attorneys get giant boners and start to pick out new vacation homes. 4. The most seasoned executives get big smiles. 5. They wait for the Darkcoin to Dashcoin branding to happen later this month so that Darkcoin is caught in a corner. 6. They then begin the fight knowing that they have far deeper pockets and the Darkcoin argument is somewhat dubious. As there is no legal precedent in a case like this (that I'm aware of), they know that a case like this is going to be long and protracted. They know they don't even necessarily have to win, they just have to prolong the fuck out of it so the Darkcoin fanbase gets tired of, "Will you guys please just donate 10 more DRK each to the legal fund?" posts. 7. They realize eventually there will likely be a settlement that doesn't even set legal precedent but it benefits them. Does Darkcoin get to be Dash? Maybe, maybe not. But the settlement will be much bigger if yes. Or Darkcoin could have properly acquired Dashcoin for likely less than $25,000 in Darkcoin. And this is why Darkcoin needs a seasoned executive on board. Because without one, the Darkcoin base is vulnerable. Now remind me again how I'm taking advantage of vulnerable people? you keep not understanding the basics here. There is no fight, because no one who bought or mined a dashcoin from the dashcoin trademark owner has any claim on the dashcoin trademark. The mark owner does who is Evan Duffield. Like if you bought half the world supply of Big Mac's and then decide to rename them BigFarms, you can't cease and desist McDonalds from using the BigMac name under trademark law Saying 'yes you can because there is no legal precedent' - you don't understand legal precedents then too using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc. |
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original dashcoin logo  Now if you're splitting hairs on copying shit, your thread, July 05, 2014, 06:31:39 AM, our original Darkcoin logo:  Really? posted this earlier..anyway why people only notices the logo? how is my comic?  |
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i would repost my short comic here for the people who are saying that darkcoin will simply rebrand to DASH..why the need for evan to buy github account? what would happen to DASH/DRK and dashcoin holders out there..go figure guys.. There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. day 1 person a: what is DASH? dark guy: digital cash..etc. etc. person a: what is digital cash? dark guy: well.....it is a cryptocurrency like bitcoin and litecoin person a: so it is a coin? dark guy:...yyyyyyes.. day 2 person a: hey person b i heard there is a coin out there named DASH, it claims to be anonymous etc. person b: so how much is this DASH coin? a piece?.. person a: 3 bucks..... (person b buys) day 3 person b: hey person c i bought some DASHcoin it is 3 bucks a piece, bought 10..that's 30 bucks  person c: WHAT! fucking rip off...i bought 10 million dashcoins for 1$ at poloniex.com LOL the original dashcoin logo proposed DASH logo  [/quote] |
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As this is a decentralized project (unlike darkcoin) slb or any other developer is not in a position to "sell" the rights to the project or "be bought out" or any other such nonsense . Evan donated his money, plain & simple. Dashcoin will continue, Evan doesn't own anything here.
F off darkcoin fanboys, you're polluting this thread
Wow... Looks who's calling the kettle black Mr. White... You certainly enjoy polluting other threads. Riel What I don't understand is dashcoins Dev is the one that sold out his coin he made. As far as I know that would be his right as he created the coin. In buying dashcoins or any other crypto for that matter there is no implied contract when you as crypto currency buyer have ownership. Did my Arielbit sign a legal document of ownership with the Dev of his coin? I presume not. Now this does now raise some interesting questions. ... That all crypto would be wise to answer. And maybe the event with Evan and team is blessing to cryptos in general. his coin he made cryptonote? clone? open source? community? decentralized?......ring any bells? i bought dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin i mine dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin did you have any legal document of ownership of darkcoins? bitcoins? edit: you can throw lawyers around here but i am giving my support to keep this coin alive, and by the way if what i am doing is illegal..trace me and my cryptonote dashcoins  Mr Arielbit... I fully agree in your right to call your coin whatever you wish.... That's your choice for sure. My comment is everyone is fudding and trolling Evan and drk/dash team for something your dev did?!? I do understand ur angst. The dark/dash community is not the source of your pain... Your dev was. Obviously maybe he did not believe the coin was viable enough to make it a go... That whatever features were there weren't solid enough.... Who knows maybe he knew something about the code of the coin he created was wrong and couldn't correct it. Either way... These are questions for you former dev.... Not drk/dash. You have the right to succeed... As we all do.... Please enter your frustration to the person that put you there. That's all I'm asking. maybe..maybe.. both are accused. anyway buyer and seller....slb and dark devs is trying to enrich themselves at the expense of dashcoin community. Well sir we can agree to disagree then I guess in the point we (drk/dash) are trying to enrich ourselves on the back of your community. That is something I would have to say falls 100% on your former dev. I truly do wish you all the best... this thread is going in circles..dev don't own the coin wish you the best too. |
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As this is a decentralized project (unlike darkcoin) slb or any other developer is not in a position to "sell" the rights to the project or "be bought out" or any other such nonsense . Evan donated his money, plain & simple. Dashcoin will continue, Evan doesn't own anything here.
F off darkcoin fanboys, you're polluting this thread
Wow... Looks who's calling the kettle black Mr. White... You certainly enjoy polluting other threads. Riel What I don't understand is dashcoins Dev is the one that sold out his coin he made. As far as I know that would be his right as he created the coin. In buying dashcoins or any other crypto for that matter there is no implied contract when you as crypto currency buyer have ownership. Did my Arielbit sign a legal document of ownership with the Dev of his coin? I presume not. Now this does now raise some interesting questions. ... That all crypto would be wise to answer. And maybe the event with Evan and team is blessing to cryptos in general. his coin he made cryptonote? clone? open source? community? decentralized?......ring any bells? i bought dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin i mine dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin did you have any legal document of ownership of darkcoins? bitcoins? edit: you can throw lawyers around here but i am giving my support to keep this coin alive, and by the way if what i am doing is illegal..trace me and my cryptonote dashcoins Mr Arielbit... I fully agree in your right to call your coin whatever you wish.... That's your choice for sure. My comment is everyone is fudding and trolling Evan and drk/dash team for something your dev did?!? I do understand ur angst. The dark/dash community is not the source of your pain... Your dev was. Obviously maybe he did not believe the coin was viable enough to make it a go... That whatever features were there weren't solid enough.... Who knows maybe he knew something about the code of the coin he created was wrong and couldn't correct it. Either way... These are questions for you former dev.... Not drk/dash. You have the right to succeed... As we all do.... Please enter your frustration to the person that put you there. That's all I'm asking. maybe..maybe.. both are accused. anyway buyer and seller....slb and dark devs is trying to enrich themselves at the expense of dashcoin community. |
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@ RenegadeMan
i'm no troll.. i'm forced to come out here, been with dash since july 2014
at least you used the word DRK not dash...thanks for the offer..just trade it for the original dashcoin at poloniex..make somebody in dashcoin community happy.
OK. There is no BTC market for DSH and I don't trade in Polo, there is already a wall there for anyone that wants to exit. My offer still stands, if you feel there is a member of the DSH community that should be compensated I would happily send that person 20 DRK or if you want you can take it and distribute it as you see fit. Just shoot me a PM any time, now or in the future. i don't speak for the community...i'm not slb. |
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@ Minotaur26 You got us all wrong, I am sure we could be friends. I am sorry this has been a hard process for you but it has nothing to do with DASH(DRK). What would you like to see happen going forward? What do you want?
i want to believe in crypto currency..removing the dev of dashcoin, trying to kill the coin for its name, leaving community to rot simply disgust me.. I see where you are coming from now. I do believe in crypto too, that is why I am here, I guess we all find different ways of doing that. I guess I see how yo view things now. The main misunderstanding is the part where you feel DRK removed your dev. That is not the case at all, the former dev had no interest in continuing with the project. It turned out to be more complicated than he originally thought it would be. The same thing happened to Spreadcoin not long ago and their dev was considered to be really good. Sometimes this things can be overwhelming for a developer. It is really not our fault. The developer leaving and not wanting to continue the project is what really is causing issues for DSH, SPR has not recovered either and there is also nice people over there. That problem is not related to DRK On the last part, MyFarm, a prominent member of our community is offering an exit to anyone who wants it as a sign of good faith. Please consider these reasons, and see if you can find a way to be friendly. dashcoin dev last update on development was just this Feb 8 2015..it is clearly he was bought..and there is no announcement that he is abandoning the project and at least ask the community about it. different ways indeed. - killing a coin for its name by buying the dev leaving the community to rot There is no way for me to convince you as slb made no final announcement but he left for his own reasons and you guys can continue the project if you want to. There is also a wall set by a member of this community for anyone that wants to exit. But I do get how you must feel I would probably feel the same way if I was in your shoes. So would you accept if I sent you some DRK for your trouble? I would like to, but I just don't know if you would accept. @ RenegadeMan i'm no troll.. i'm forced to come out here, been with dash since july 2014 edit: @Minotaur26 at least you used the word DRK not dash...thanks for the offer..just trade it for the original dashcoin at poloniex..make somebody in dashcoin community happy. |
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posted this on darkcoin thread for TanteStefana2 i want to believe in crypto currency..removing the dev of dashcoin, trying to kill the coin for its name, leaving community to rot simply disgust me..
You know what? You guys have been quite nasty to your part time developer! Why don't you act nice toward him and ask him to continue with the project? There is nothing to stop him! Darkcoin got what they wanted to make a case, it really has nothing to do with you all, and maybe the money your developer got (I assume he was compensated) will actually provide him with the means to continue. I'm not nasty to slb..right now i think i may become nasty to him for selling off..or not because of the attention dashcoin had when he left...if slb is happy good for him. it really has nothing to do with you all It has everything to do with dashcoin commmunity. |
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@ Minotaur26 You got us all wrong, I am sure we could be friends. I am sorry this has been a hard process for you but it has nothing to do with DASH(DRK). What would you like to see happen going forward? What do you want?
i want to believe in crypto currency..removing the dev of dashcoin, trying to kill the coin for its name, leaving community to rot simply disgust me.. I see where you are coming from now. I do believe in crypto too, that is why I am here, I guess we all find different ways of doing that. I guess I see how you view things now. The main misunderstanding is the part where you feel DRK removed your dev. That is not the case at all, the former dev had no interest in continuing with the project. It turned out to be more complicated than he originally thought it would be. The same thing happened to Spreadcoin not long ago and their dev was considered to be really good. Sometimes this things can be overwhelming for a developer. It is really not our fault. The developer leaving and not wanting to continue the project is what really is causing issues for DSH, SPR has not recovered either and there is also nice people over there. That problem is not related to DRK On the last part, MyFarm, a prominent member of our community is offering an exit to anyone who wants it as a sign of good faith. Please consider these reasons, and see if you can find a way to be friendly. dashcoin dev last update on development was just this Feb 8 2015..it is clearly he was bought..and there is no announcement that he is abandoning the project or at least ask the community about it. different ways indeed. - killing a coin for its name by buying the dev and leaving the community to rot |
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i want to believe in crypto currency..removing the dev of dashcoin, trying to kill the coin for its name, leaving community to rot simply disgust me..
You know what? You guys have been quite nasty to your part time developer! Why don't you act nice toward him and ask him to continue with the project? There is nothing to stop him! Darkcoin got what they wanted to make a case, it really has nothing to do with you all, and maybe the money your developer got (I assume he was compensated) will actually provide him with the means to continue. I'm not nasty to slb..right now i think i may become nasty to him for selling off..or not because of the attention dashcoin had when he left...if slb is happy good for him. it really has nothing to do with you all It has everything to do with dashcoin commmunity. |
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edit: well evan i won't be contributing to your murder of my dashcoin. your darkcoin won't get far having blood on its hands.
Seriously? yeah it is a taint they cannot remove forever.. |
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+ 184.46 billion dashcoins
I am very happy MyFarm is giving everyone a nice exit opportunity. It is really commendable that the DASH community steps up like this to help others. We wish you guys the best in your future endeavors. i'm not in the mood for selling and buying....just securing the "original dashcoin" network from DARK intensions and motives with AMD's and Intel's at home from the otherside of the globe Sorry, it's unlikely to help you. But maybe you can resurrect the coin? Fork it and see if you can get people to buy again? Otherwise, I suggest you beware what you're spending on  maybe people are starting to buy it since dashcoin name has something and dark is trying to steal it edit: dashcoin is not dead and i am fully aware since july 2014. @ Minotaur26 You got us all wrong, I am sure we could be friends. I am sorry this has been a hard process for you but it has nothing to do with DASH(DRK). What would you like to see happen going forward? What do you want?
i want to believe in crypto currency..removing the dev of dashcoin, trying to kill the coin for its name, leaving community to rot simply disgust me.. |
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I've spent the last few days significantly reducing my position in DRK due to this statement by Evan:  As any of you in the USA smart enough to follow financial laws know, the IRS and SEC have made some rather interesting rulings regarding cryptocurrency. While I am no attorney (but make the habit of occasionally talking to one) I suspect there is going to be some... "Drama" I have been making posts about the important need for, "Business Acumen" in the Darkcoin ranks. Before I buy back into Darkcoin in size, I now have the requirement that a very well-seasoned business executive that a venture capitalist would love be brought onto the Darkcoin in Darkcoin's future. team to make and handle business decisions. Note, this kind of person is going to likely require a large, vesting offering of Darkcoin for the trouble. You are making this "drama" up from your ass  Please, go back to your farm I wish that was true. Let's look at the IRS's guidance on virtual currency, shall we? http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/IRS-Virtual-Currency-GuidanceHow can Evan own something that is treated as property when I own billions of it as well? And if he doesn't really own it, how can he make a legal challenge that requires his ownership? Maybe he can. Maybe Darkcoin has a team of amazing attorneys that understand cryptocurrency. All I know, is those 568 shares of Google I own don't allow me to make trademark claims on behalf of Google. I SUSPECT that whoever owns 50.000000001% of Dashcoin is going to own the Dash financial trademark. But even then, it could be an ugly fight. Or maybe not. It's going to be interesting! Or maybe not. Heh. + 184.46 billion dashcoins I think it has to do with who has control over the github repository. And to be more precise, I think all that does is say we've had the project before the first application for a trademark, therefor we can contend the trademark. That's it, that's it's only reason for being acquired. So we can protect our use of the name. The owners of dashcoin continue to own their dashcoin which is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Which means, btw, that if the last sale of a coin was 3 months ago for 0.00000001, and that causes the marketcap to read $3000 or something, it doesn't mean it really is worth $3000, just that that was the last sales price/marketcap that could be registered. there is a fork waiting to take over if you guys sabotage it.. price doesn't make the coin dead..even if there is no value i can send you dashcoins from where i am. edit: uhmm.. the original dash |
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+ 184.46 billion dashcoins
I am very happy MyFarm is giving everyone a nice exit opportunity. It is really commendable that the DASH community steps up like this to help others. We wish you guys the best in your future endeavors. i'm not in the mood for selling and buying....just securing the "original dashcoin" network from DARK intensions and motives with AMD's and Intel's at home from the otherside of the globe |
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I've spent the last few days significantly reducing my position in DRK due to this statement by Evan: As any of you in the USA smart enough to follow financial laws know, the IRS and SEC have made some rather interesting rulings regarding cryptocurrency. While I am no attorney (but make the habit of occasionally talking to one) I suspect there is going to be some... "Drama" in Darkcoin's future. I have been making posts about the important need for, "Business Acumen" in the Darkcoin ranks. Before I buy back into Darkcoin in size, I now have the requirement that a very well-seasoned business executive that a venture capitalist would love be brought onto the Darkcoin team to make and handle business decisions. Note, this kind of person is going to likely require a large, vesting offering of Darkcoin for the trouble. You are making this "drama" up from your ass Please, go back to your farm I wish that was true. Let's look at the IRS's guidance on virtual currency, shall we? http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/IRS-Virtual-Currency-GuidanceHow can Evan own something that is treated as property when I own billions of it as well? And if he doesn't really own it, how can he make a legal challenge that requires his ownership? Maybe he can. Maybe Darkcoin has a team of amazing attorneys that understand cryptocurrency. All I know, is those 568 shares of Google I own don't allow me to make trademark claims on behalf of Google. I SUSPECT that whoever owns 50.000000001% of Dashcoin is going to own the Dash financial trademark. But even then, it could be an ugly fight. Or maybe not. It's going to be interesting! Or maybe not. Heh. + 184.46 billion dashcoins posted from darkcoin thread earlier. |
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I've spent the last few days significantly reducing my position in DRK due to this statement by Evan: As any of you in the USA smart enough to follow financial laws know, the IRS and SEC have made some rather interesting rulings regarding cryptocurrency. While I am no attorney (but make the habit of occasionally talking to one) I suspect there is going to be some... "Drama" in Darkcoin's future. I have been making posts about the important need for, "Business Acumen" in the Darkcoin ranks. Before I buy back into Darkcoin in size, I now have the requirement that a very well-seasoned business executive that a venture capitalist would love be brought onto the Darkcoin team to make and handle business decisions. Note, this kind of person is going to likely require a large, vesting offering of Darkcoin for the trouble. You are making this "drama" up from your ass Please, go back to your farm I wish that was true. Let's look at the IRS's guidance on virtual currency, shall we? http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/IRS-Virtual-Currency-GuidanceHow can Evan own something that is treated as property when I own billions of it as well? And if he doesn't really own it, how can he make a legal challenge that requires his ownership? Maybe he can. Maybe Darkcoin has a team of amazing attorneys that understand cryptocurrency. All I know, is those 568 shares of Google I own don't allow me to make trademark claims on behalf of Google. I SUSPECT that whoever owns 50.000000001% of Dashcoin is going to own the Dash financial trademark. But even then, it could be an ugly fight. Or maybe not. It's going to be interesting! Or maybe not. Heh. + 184.46 billion dashcoins |
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As this is a decentralized project (unlike darkcoin) slb or any other developer is not in a position to "sell" the rights to the project or "be bought out" or any other such nonsense . Evan donated his money, plain & simple. Dashcoin will continue, Evan doesn't own anything here.
F off darkcoin fanboys, you're polluting this thread
Wow... Looks who's calling the kettle black Mr. White... You certainly enjoy polluting other threads. What I don't understand is dashcoins Dev is the one that sold out his coin he made. As far as I know that would be his right as he created the coin. In buying dashcoins or any other crypto for that matter there is no implied contract when you as crypto currency buyer have ownership. Did my Arielbit sign a legal document of ownership with the Dev of his coin? I presume not. Now this does now raise some interesting questions. ... That all crypto would be wise to answer. And maybe the event with Evan and team is blessing to cryptos in general. his coin he made cryptonote? clone? open source? community? decentralized?......ring any bells? i bought dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin i mine dashcoin, i can call it dashcoin did you have any legal document of ownership of darkcoins? bitcoins? edit: you can throw lawyers around here but i am giving my support to keep this coin alive, and by the way if what i am doing is illegal..trace me and my cryptonote dashcoins |
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