i am also a new user and was recommended to use bitfloor as it was easy and simple. Maybe there needs to be a thread with the different exchanges/wallets with pros and cons and their history. I was also unaware that they were hacked before
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoinsMost are clickable to view a wiki page with features and history. |
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Slush pool was under DDOS attack last 2 days and almost unable to mine. I wonder how likely it is for attackers to DDOS some major pools and meanwhile take over 50% of the bitcoin network computing power. Will be interesting to watch how bitcoin infrastructure will handle this. Bitcoin's popularity is getting some criminal minds to be very interested  How do they profit? |
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Yes. We prefer to control the hardware, security, and backup procedures ourselves. A service agreement can't recover your data.
I should have clarified I didn't believe his IP was in the headers. I just wanted to correct your statement that only the sender ip was in the headers.
That said, I will now hopefully make you smile so you can just drop the attacks and move on with your life.
fitty, you win the internet
Google apps is free bro, it's more secure then whatever bootleg server you're running in your bedroom. 99.9999% of the planet isn't running a mail server out of their basement. Your IP is not in the headers. You made it seem like it was. 99.9999% of the time it's not. So it's not worth mentioning. I really don't like the idea of depending on a corporation to keep my data safe. Thanks for putting more words in my mouth that I never said or intended to convey. I now retract my statement. I gave you the win, but you're too cocky to just accept it and be happy. |
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Yes. We prefer to control the hardware, security, and backup procedures ourselves. A service agreement can't recover your data.
I should have clarified I didn't believe his IP was in the headers. I just wanted to correct your statement that only the sender ip was in the headers.
That said, I will now hopefully make you smile so you can just drop the attacks and move on with your life.
fitty, you win the internet
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doesn't anyone else see the similarities?
The important part is post-bubble. There's no reason to think that it will behave the same as in 2011. There is no bad news this time to crush confidence. Actually, good news is still coming in just as it did on the way up. New merchants accepting every day. New exchanges and projects being worked on. Plenty of media coverage and people coming in. no bad news? what are you talking about? btc24 is history along with +5M $ bitfloor stoped trading (AML reasons probably too) it just hasn't made it to the news yet What AML violation can you site any evidence for? I would bet it's forced bankruptcy. |
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You better remove your personal information from headers.
And please post headers of another know to be legit mail from bitfloor to compare.
Are there any personal details in there aside from email address? I can confirm that the headers match from an email I received in 2012. Just your IP address. Now "they" know what IP to hack to find a bitcoin wallet  . His IP is not in the headers, that's the sender. Just the sender eh? Received: by 10.112.143.98
Are you trolling or just retarded? When someone sends you an e-mail, your IP doesn't magically jump into the headers. Received ips is referring to the receiving mail server. No... it's just most people I know run their own mail servers. As I said above. ASS U ME |
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Security through obscurity is not security. Nearly every server on the internet runs an open source OS and everything below the specific application is open source as well.
I think i also replied to this stupid assertion elsewhere. NOT IN CASE OF FINANCIAL SERVICE. Did you saw any bank who gives all his internal security structure, security instructions, security camera's locations, etc to any desirous person? No, but the computer equivalent of most of that infrastructure is not part of the application code that is published. I agree that the entire exchange setup (including server layout, firewalls, intrusion detection, etc.) should not be published, but for example an order matching engine would benefit greatly from being open source. Multiple exchanges could use it and share improvements and bug fixes. They will still have other components, but the engine itself can run as a service using a standard api like the json-rpc that bitcoind uses (or likely something more lightweight for efficiency). Ideally, there would be multiple competing engines that various exchanges use. Bugs always happen and they are found eventually for any lasting piece of software.... open source just helps them get found and fixed faster. Regarding bitcoin-central, I wouldn't use Rails for an exchange though.... way too big of an attack surface. |
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I think the point here is:
The world now knows about bitcoin, pretty much all of it.
But it knows it for what it is: A trading game with scummy figures playing captain of the industry and an attached army of zealots with the attitude of MLM participants.
In short: We're out of suckers.
Bitcoin just hasn't found it's niche yet. It will eventually solve the funding issue for open source software, free music communities (free as in permission to reuse), and other crowd-sourced creation endeavors. It will start off as a niche, but in a hundred years it will just be how the economy works. |
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You better remove your personal information from headers.
And please post headers of another know to be legit mail from bitfloor to compare.
Are there any personal details in there aside from email address? I can confirm that the headers match from an email I received in 2012. Just your IP address. Now "they" know what IP to hack to find a bitcoin wallet . His IP is not in the headers, that's the sender. Just the sender eh? Received: by 10.112.143.98
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Are there any personal details in there aside from email address?
Just your IP address. Now "they" know what IP to hack to find a bitcoin wallet . My IP is not in there. It is just the IPs of the mail servers. Wait, everybody doesn't run their own mail servers . |
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You better remove your personal information from headers.
And please post headers of another know to be legit mail from bitfloor to compare.
Are there any personal details in there aside from email address? I can confirm that the headers match from an email I received in 2012. Just your IP address. Now "they" know what IP to hack to find a bitcoin wallet . |
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Not worth the risk at this point IMO unless someone can tell me exactly what it would take to be in compliance.
Happy to take on the risk, what would you want to develop the system? I'm not sure, I would have to do some simple prototyping and testing, and then we could discuss target performance (X orders per second, with lag under Y milliseconds, etc). We would also need to discuss what exactly you want built. I'm booked for the next 3 weeks at least, but maybe after that I could look into it. If you can put together a list of features and just label them required, desired, and optional I will put together a few quotes (all required only plus extra cost for each of the desired and optional features). Again, it will be May 13th at the earliest before I could start looking at it. PM me. Bitcoin central is open source: https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-centralI doubt the current order matching implementation could even keep up with MtGox though. That said, most of the rest of what you need for a bitcoin exchange is there. Don't make me laugh. They were hacked because their all internal structure was in open source! Internal structure (and especially code!) public disclosing is absolutely unacceptable in financial services. btce were also hacked when they trade out their software to private buyer. Security through obscurity is not security. Nearly every server on the internet runs an open source OS and everything below the specific application is open source as well. I'm not defending the bitcoin-central codebase though... it would need some work to be put to use on any scale. I suppose I should have put that caveat in my previous post, so thanks for forcing the issue. |
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I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
Do you know of any software package or project that could be built upon or used "out of the box" toward building a better version of mtgox? Short of finding a pile of fiat to hire said engineers starting with a known working package would make sense. Surely there is a good implementation of a private stock trading system out there... Bitcoin central is open source: https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-centralI doubt the current order matching implementation could even keep up with MtGox though. That said, most of the rest of what you need for a bitcoin exchange is there. |
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I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
What do we have here - is just madness. I say if 50% of funds will be moved to bitstamp or btce - we will see mtgox-2. None of existing exchanges have technically good internal implementation.
When somebody with the legal knowledge makes a step by step guide to getting registered in various countries. Only then will people like me with the technical knowledge and interest actually build the thing. Right now, I'm dead in the water unless I hire a lawyer to work that shit out. I don't want to deal with it because even if I sunk a week into it, I still wouldn't be sure I was doing everything right. And in my country (USA) if you handle a lot of money without the proper licensing you will have all your money seized. I imagine other countries are similar, although apparently Japan doesn't require any more than a basic business license for MtGox. Not worth the risk at this point IMO unless someone can tell me exactly what it would take to be in compliance. |
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bitcoincharts.com image... they must be getting hit hard at the moment |
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It doesn't matter what you can buy, as long as there is something to buy. Drugs and porn are a good start.
Drugs and porn don't justify why the current price is so high...you could buy drugs and porn with btc a couple years ago. Sure, but now there is MORE drugs and porn |
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Asks are 3.5X higher than before the top though.
True, there seems to be a lot of pressure from both sides. Which is why my liquidity bot is turning nice profits. |
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I can see a few bearish pennants including one Colpitt's oscillator about to break to e^(i*pi*t)*u(t) Thanks for chart I have been trying to find that for a while. That's just -(1^t)*u(t)... I'm not sure what u(t) is here, but oscillating rapidly between negative and positive seems about right for bitcoin at this time. |
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With over 17.2 million USD we just broke the all-time-high ask sum. Quite some money still on Mtgox seems to be waiting for an entry point.
Asks are 3.5X higher than before the top though. |
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And then I found the magic "ignore" button. I never used it in my life before though I visit a lot of forums. But here it was just too much  I still have 0 people on ignore... Most people worth ignoring disappear in a week or two. Those that don't improve their post quality. |
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