For https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57123.msg679045#msg679045Theymos doesn't like talk about moderation in the thread that's being moderated. A link to a thread in meta would be more appropriate, to keep the two subjects separated and easy to read. As it is reading back through the eligius thread and the others is already kind of confusing. Just so people know what this is it is a thread some mod made to take posts from different threads and put them in one place. Diablo is not the only person who is being accused of censorship or supporting questionable activity. He is not even the main person behind the backlash to the censorship.
The title of this thread is clearly misleading... This is just too vague. And I'm not sure why it's here either if it's not about Diablo. See what a mess off topic stuff creates?
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I just can't bear it anymore.
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Those are the orbits of the outermost planets like Jupiter, Saturn, etc for scale.
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My issue has only been about censorship and trying to find out the forums policy on it.
I have told you what threads and what posts were deleted but no, I do not have screen shots and no I can't link you...
I also still have the message from Maged about me being banned for "trolling" in the BFL thread.
Anyway, you could end a lot of this by just posting the forums policy on censorship so we know. My posts in the BFL were clearly on topic. My posts in the thread that got deleted where clearly on topic.
The post that got deleted in Diablos thread was not on topic, (It was just asking why the thread was stickied)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.msg194511#msg194511All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic. If you want to bring up some history with you and Maged you should make another thread so it can be properly discussed, this thread is about Diablo and censorship in the Eligius matter, adding this here will just complicate matters. Theymos will have to look into the deleted posts. The posts in diablos thread was unnecessary after it was unstickied, since there was a thread on it already in meta.
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You are really asking us to link to censored/deleted posts? You don't believe what I am saying? Well... lol!
I included quotes in there for a reason, if you can recall what/where the post was, or even just the general message of the post I'm sure it would help. I was also under the impression this was about more than just deletion of posts, with all the talk of dirty dealings and whatnot. Like Maged said earlier, some people may be overreacting, and the chaos is causing the real message to be lost.
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Even if we say that Luke scammed all Eligius pool members by attacking alt chains (which I would disagree with), then he would still not be banned because scammers are not banned from this forum.
He didn't scam them in that they didn't lose anything. However, he abused their trust. If someone borrowed my car, went and robbed a bank with it and then returned the car unscathed the next day, I would not have suffered any financial loss. I still would: - want to know about it - feel extremely displeased - never trust that person again In other words: there was no scam, but there was most definitely wrongdoing. Right, but that isn't the issue here. There's other threads for that, this thread is about abuses of moderation during all this. Someone needs to point it out, there a lot of accusations/hyperbolic rants but no links/quotes/screens/nada anywhere.
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Free market at work I dont see anyone switching exchanges, gox still leads by far. Yeah that's my point.
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Free market at work
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What a mess. Reminds me why I stay out of mining and alt currencies. so is there a reason why diablo is still staff? has been getting in trouble at least once a month, and the only thing he does is post in his "want legit 7970 testing?", and randomly banning users.
Just a note, he can't ban anyone, he puts in requests which only an admin (usually theymos) can approve. And theymos is as close to unbiased as you will get since he doesn't participate in the mining section.
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Have you seen a Stargate around here? Kind of a ring thing, spins around, kinda flushes sideways?
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The SA trolls are back at it again. You motherfuckers aren't going to come here to start shit anymore. People like me WILL start calling you pieces of shit out.
I'm gonna start my Troll hunting list, as the price goes up, except the animosity to increase guys. We have to handle these assholes RIGHT the first time...
I almost forgot, you and bbit had hard evidence that I was an SA troll. Funny, I've been around a while... I had you pegged as a goon for some reason. Maybe just 'cuz someone labeled you as such at some point. But that never mattered much to me. Good enough for me. Get the pitchforks boys! Or a forklift...he's a big boy
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Damn, 5 Bitcoins is going to have a huge impact on the price of a DVD.
5 was just used as an example, nice round number. Instead of confusing people with fractions.
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That was actually really informative. I had never heard of the planet Nibiru tale but it proposed May 2003.
There's also the Nemesis theory (never confirmed, just a theory) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_%28hypothetical_star%29Nemesis is a hypothetical hard-to-detect red dwarf star,[1] white dwarf star[2][dubious – discuss] or brown dwarf,[3] originally postulated in 1984 to be orbiting the Sun at a distance of about 95,000 AU (1.5 light-years),[3] somewhat beyond the Oort cloud, to explain a perceived cycle of mass extinctions in the geological record, which seem to occur more often at intervals of 26 million years.[4][3] As of 2011, over 1300 brown dwarfs have been identified and none of them are inside the Solar System.[5] There's also Sedna, which is a real confirmed (dwarf) planet with an unusually large eccentric orbit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90377_SednaBarring comets and a handful of small Solar System bodies,[f] Sedna has the longest orbital period of any known object in the Solar System, calculated at around 11,400 years. Crazy shit out there.
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Except I heard this time they'll dump the fiat and drive the market to the sky. Buy!
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Anyway, here's what NASA has to say about 2012 http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html"There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there..." - Don Yeomans, NASA senior research scientist Edit: Edit 2: I'm also wondering how you rationalized talking about religion in on online forum is the worst thing ever. Cause my horoscope said so
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Probably getting hammered by all the publicity he's getting. People posting screenshots of their bitcoinica adventures even in Speculation.
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That's exactly what I was getting at. That's why it's nothing like Astronomy, which is the scientific collection of data about the universe. Astrology is just an interpretation of that data, based largely on the church. That's the reason for my mentioning religion earlier, they are very much alike. Of course that basically makes this into an internet religious debate which is one of the worst things ever to do. http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeIV/astrology.htmIf astrology is a tightrope walk between religion and scientific astronomy, then we already have a first definition. First of all: insofar as it views cosmos, humans, and nature as being reigned over and guided by powers and forces from beyond, astrology is religion. All the events in the cosmos and on earth are linked together by an invisible magic bond. Only on the basis of this mysterious magical connection can astrology assume that the stars have something to do with the course of our lives, with our talents and weaknesses.
In this regard, astrology is related to the nature religions. These also assume that nature is inhabited and governed by magical powers, demons, and gods. Like the nature religions, astrology believes in a multitude of gods; it is polytheistic at its core. Each planet and sign of the zodiac is the expression of a particular god or demon. But astrology is also sometimes accepted by religions which know only one creator-god, like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Then the many star-gods become angels and demons which are subordinated to the one God and, as such, understood as "instruments" of God.
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