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3261  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 12, 2016, 09:28:03 AM
Be honest, I will cry, then probably use gambling website if the price doesn't gets up.

Well that is really going to to be crying moment if the price of bitcoin is going to be at that price especially when you are holding a lot of it. So, you are just going to play for your bitcoins and going to hope for the gambling site make your remaining bitcoins grow. If I were you, take the chance don't lose hope and buy a lot.

That is roght! The key here is to buy a lot when the price of bitcoin gets lower because there is really a big chance of bitcoin price to rise again - why? Because there are many people actually using it already in the moment like you and me. There are also big investors that investing to bitcoins.
3262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: August 12, 2016, 09:25:28 AM
Yea lottery is gambling also but it is most ulprobably unfair game which i ever see.In my country on tv news i saw how they are scamming with lotter and bwcause of that i nevef play lottery.
Yes, they see the number that has been sold less overall and then declare that number as a winner. I think these dice gambling is 100 times better than than those lottery. At least we know all we loose is because of our luck and not been cheated.
of course dice is better because it is easier to win even though you can only win smaller amount of money with it, lottery is also gambling and it is one of the worst gambling games

Why worst? because you are likely have chances to be hit by lightning than winning a mega lotto. This is just to add to how it is hard to win the lotto yet we keep on buying lotto tickets thinking that it is just a small money with very big prize - it then become a habit - daily buying of lotto tickets.
3263  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 09:20:29 AM
I use them for both, currency or investment. Because I make profit with bitcoin trading and I also buy sometimes stuff with it, mostly digital stuff. And I save about 25% every month to investment. The most of us are doing it most, because its now still a investment in my eyes but this will change in the future.


that is the beauty of bitcoin - it has a big space for future commercial transactions where we have the full freedom and less regulation by govn't or bank institutions. I am seeing that if that times come, govn't have in place against illegal transactions like prohibited drugs and other harmful and destructive to humanity.
3264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 11, 2016, 11:07:51 AM
Hello
Getting addicted to gambling is a sickness. However running a casino is not and the casino owners are the actual profit makers here.People do get addicted a lot and end up wagering all their money and that can be disastrous.


That's a different story, though if you own a casino, for sure you will profit... But anyway, gambling is not a sickness or a disease that needs cure... Those addicts don't need special treatment too, they still can move and could think freely, for sure they can do it themselves, gambling is not as bad as drugs that affects your brain...  Smiley

Agree with this. Everything we do in excess is bad for us. If we gamble with moderation, then it is totally fine and not considered as a sickness; However, if you gamble with all of your might and fortune and even bet your house and lot, then you are in serious trouble my friend.
3265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling has killed me (money vanished) on: August 11, 2016, 11:04:09 AM
That's one of best mysteries of gambling sites where whenever you bet small amount you end up mostly winning it all but once you raise your bet you are most likely to lose.

That is really the reality of these sites. I don't know if this is something to do with their programs or what.. However, there are also players that win big like in the high rollers. But I just noticed something in these online dice sites, most of the players in the chatrooms have negative overall stats. When we look at high rollers, they seldom chat and mostly have positive stats.. Well, that is just my personal observation.
3266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 09, 2016, 07:30:13 AM
what pro gamblers always to is of course to make up with their lose because in gambling losing money is always a part of it and if you let your emotions overcome your mindset then you will surely drawn

That is inevitable, losing will always happen, a gambler always has extra fund just in case that happens and they are into vengeance and winning, which I think is not smart thing to do and not safe at all, that would just double your loss if your losing continue... Logging out and trying again the next day and having small fund in your bnakroll  is still the best idea that I know( though it's not a guarantee )...  Smiley

Having extra sessions and play on when in lose (losing is part of gambling) is like playing with steroids compared to your advice to logout and play again the next day with small bankroll. They are both the same - the only difference is the speed of time gambling Smiley
3267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 08, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
hi mate. to stay away from gambling means being aware that you're into gambling. and you realized that. and it's a good start. just put the realization into action. thus, first one needs to realize what he/she wants... a check for you. then "act" what you realize. lastly, repeat the first step.

I agree with this.. TO add to that - just like any other things in our life to get rid off, praying is also one of the powerful ways that helps. Whether what religion or denominations you have, and who you trust in the heaven above, ask and it shall be given.
3268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: August 07, 2016, 07:44:45 AM

i think yes , because through btc gambling there is no taxation and anyone of any age can play the game of gambling because it is online money and online market . so i think in the future the bitcoin can be a great platform for the gambling in online market .
In my own opinion though I think yes because the acceptance of Bitcoin in online gambling is getting universal and the wallet providers are equally doing enough to make that possible. All I see as a barrier to all thast is the issue of security firewalls to be put in place to protect the investment of the population and also increase the trust we have in Bitcoin...

True. Online casinos are now accepting bitcoins which make it easier for players to deposit and cashout without any hassles..
In my case, I only use bitcoin for betting in online casinos and never use my fiat money..
3269  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 06, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
Everyone who had deal with gold should make a choise here, i don't even know what to do with gold to make some money, so i am a bitcoin user Grin

Gold will serve you only as an investment and it cannot be used like bitcoin in different areas as bitcoin hold multiple features which can be helpful in many ways.

This makes really sense. Bitcoin is like gold in terms of investment but the former has added features and that is - can also be used as payment for online transactions, gambling, and the like..

The real value is yet to come. The fact that after the dump the price went up tells me that investors are putting their trust into bitcoin.
What needs to be done is a way to stop the hacking.

Yeah, hacking should have to be made impossible, tat is the best tool to make bitcoin a best currency in the future, and we are seeing that it is because of hacking at time of halving made it immovable to increase from the price of $650 to $670, and remained there for longer and another time another hack made it to drop more.
It cannot be prevented because it was a certain exchange site that was hack, and still bitcoin is very stable in terms of its features. I do believe that with the recent hacking this is a wake up call for all the exchange sites to strengthen their security to regain the trust of the its clients unless that hacking was fabricated thing.

Yes, it might also be possible that the hacking was fabricated to manipulate the price of bitcoin. Wise investors buy bitcoins at its lowest with confidence in mind that bitcoins will bounce back due to its usefulness and true value it can offer to people with it.
3270  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 06, 2016, 04:01:44 PM
If you want to earn Bitcoin without actively doing anything you probably mean either loaning with interest or just asking for free money. You can not earn money doing nothing. You can try signature campaigns, they pay you for posting, that is almost like doing nothing, so there you go. If you want to earn doing nothing open a loan service and give loans with interest if you already have some Bitcoins, that is the only way.

The income from the signature campaign is quite low, you need to be a senior member or higher to earn decent money.
If there are people who has system trading, they can be steady income on bitcoin. And they can get bitcoin by signature campaign too, it is more better than get bitcoin one way only.

Signature campaign will help you in earning steady income but you cannot expect the same from trading as there is no guarantee of making profits every time.

And there is no guarantee either that your money doesn't get stolen in the process, so to speak, lol

There is really no certainty in life. The best thing we can do is to create multiple streams of income - aside from salary, we must also do some sidelines and businesses so that we can have a diversity in our assets. This way, we can withstand some losses.
3271  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 06, 2016, 03:57:51 PM
Trading Trading and only Trading, I will invest all 10 btc in trading and will start to multiply my coins and 10 btc will really give me some good profits in quick time.

Well, if you are really good at trading, then you can do so.. But isn't it good to diversify assets so that if something unfortunate thing happen to one of your investments, your other investments can cover the loses and you will not totally get bankrupt.
3272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do bitcoin accepted in your country? on: August 06, 2016, 03:46:42 PM
yes ofcourse and i am thankful that bitcoin here in our country is accepting bitcoin and bitcoin is legal to use where we can also pay our monthly bills , and we use also to buy some random staff and for daily expenses i love using and spending bitcoin thats why and we can also deposit or withdraw our coins into bank account

That would be awesome if bitcoin will be accepted as payment to stores and can be used to pay for bills in my country. However, I am contented as to the status of bitcoin in my country because I only use bitcoin to gamble, exchange, trade, and loan offer online and nothing more.
3273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 06, 2016, 03:42:06 PM
Although there are some who actually get rich from gambling, like lottery winners, in general I think you have a higher chance of getting broke than to get rich. So to answer the question, yes there are people who are lucky enough to get rich from gambling but that is a very very very low percentage compared to most gamblers that get broke.
Yes maybe their are some who became rich from gambling but i guess only few. its hard to earn in gambling what more to be rich. i think they were just lucky or they bet big amount and win thats why they became rich.

I am sure that people who are getting rich with gambling are the house edge only. I don't know if there is someone that is a normal player or gambler that did became rich with gambling. Maybe those people or individual that really have a very lucky win and won a big amount of pot as they are gambling. But for the house edge they are really the ones who are becoming rich with it.
Only those people with real interest on how to make money in the gambling have the chance to become rich, in one will take gambling as a form of investment which he will put up a capital or bankroll for his gambling career then he will do necessary measures to minimize his loses and to increase his winning percentage.

Treating is like a business would mean you need to track your record and do not integrate your personal expenses to your business.

I totally and 100% aggree with this. If we are serious of getting money and be rich through gambling, we should do our homework and calculations. We should treat it as a business and work.

To start off, we should have big bankroll and divide it into many sessions and then follow a system that you will not involve emotions on it.
We can find a lot of methods and techniques in the internet about how to become successful in gambling. The problem with most of the gamblers is on the implementation process as they are more easily affected with the emotion in gambling and they cannot implement the procedure effectively.
Well i don't think any of those method found on the 'internet' will ever work for you, you need to have luck to get success in gambling. if you play games like poker or pvp games  you might have advantage against weak player and make money.

It is then best way to build many sessions to increase your chances of becoming lucky. With only 1 session, you are just have 1 chance of 1 to get lucky but if you have many sessions, then you will get more chances of getting lucky.

P.S.: The number of sessions and amount of bankroll is dependant on the payout calculations. you don't want to have many sessions in a very less liely winning chances.
3274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: August 06, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
Thats a good strategy. But it cant assure you that you will always win. I suggest set an amount enough to for you and can afford to lose. When you win atleast four times withdraw it. Sometimes in excitement you are being cocky and gamble all your earnings. Limit your gambling time. Dont use all your time gambling and have a rest. Sometimes it can help you to think and decide a good decision. Greed is also hard to control so just i said, set an amount you can afford to lose. So when you loss, no hurt feelings.
Perhaps the best advice is to opt out of gambling, for those people that are mild in nature and will not be able to cope with them.

I agree to this. If you are not risk tolerant and still want to gamble, the trick is to only gamble what you can afford to lose and you will be fine as long as you stick to it and never chase your loses..

Don't get hooked and just play for fun.

If you want to go serious with gambling though, it would be a different story.
3275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 06, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
No safe on gambling.. Take risk and be ready to lose your money..
I agree there is no safe method in Gambling. But If you take Risk means there is some possibilities are there to make a profit in Gambling. Yes if we are putting our money in risk means before placing our bet we will think many times. So if anything works and if you are Lucky means in a single day you will make some decent profit.

gambling is indeed risky and can vanish all of your hard earned money a second. However, if we practice how professional gamblers does, we can at least mitigate and can withstand losing streak and emerge as victors in the long run. That can be attained through discipline in betting, proper bankroll management, having many sessions, emotionless betting, and having pre-planned bet system in place.
No discipline did not help. If such is constantly taking alcohol, not even abusing them, then the result will still lead to dependence. So gambling.

If you want to earn big in gambling, you should play with discipline. Discipline means that you will only bet according to your pre-planned bets and never go overboard of betting if urges arise. Some people tend to follow their system and in the middle of the session change the betting strategy because of boredom and the like..
3276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: August 06, 2016, 03:18:32 PM
That is just a superstitious belief in gambling and doing that is just fooling your self. If your chances is low in a particular game due to house edge you will still lose and that's it, no one is going to win big in the long run unless he is lucky and immediately stop in gambling.
Yeah, I think after winning good amount in gambling and immediately stop playing will have you a good feeling in that day, cause you don't lose instead you give yourself a reward by playing and entertain yourself. If we are really lucky enough we can really win in gambling no matter what game is that.

Correct. But if we get greedy on the process, there is a big risk to lose all of our bankroll including the profit. With this, we must have a clear and fixed target profit in any given day and once we reach that, we must stop.
Well, if we are greedy then we will lose, that is how simple it is. Gambling is never an easy game to make money because of the big risk associated in doing it, greediness will not give us a success in gambling so we should learn how to control our self and stay discipline if we want to last.

That is correct! We should be disciplined enough to only follow our pre-planned betting system and creating more sessions on the process as well.. Without that emotional control, you will surely lose in gambling.
3277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 06, 2016, 03:15:05 PM
Although there are some who actually get rich from gambling, like lottery winners, in general I think you have a higher chance of getting broke than to get rich. So to answer the question, yes there are people who are lucky enough to get rich from gambling but that is a very very very low percentage compared to most gamblers that get broke.
Yes maybe their are some who became rich from gambling but i guess only few. its hard to earn in gambling what more to be rich. i think they were just lucky or they bet big amount and win thats why they became rich.

I am sure that people who are getting rich with gambling are the house edge only. I don't know if there is someone that is a normal player or gambler that did became rich with gambling. Maybe those people or individual that really have a very lucky win and won a big amount of pot as they are gambling. But for the house edge they are really the ones who are becoming rich with it.
Only those people with real interest on how to make money in the gambling have the chance to become rich, in one will take gambling as a form of investment which he will put up a capital or bankroll for his gambling career then he will do necessary measures to minimize his loses and to increase his winning percentage.

Treating is like a business would mean you need to track your record and do not integrate your personal expenses to your business.

I totally and 100% aggree with this. If we are serious of getting money and be rich through gambling, we should do our homework and calculations. We should treat it as a business and work.

To start off, we should have big bankroll and divide it into many sessions and then follow a system that you will not involve emotions on it.
We can find a lot of methods and techniques in the internet about how to become successful in gambling. The problem with most of the gamblers is on the implementation process as they are more easily affected with the emotion in gambling and they cannot implement the procedure effectively.

I totally agree with you - I was once guilty of this. Instead of having an effective strategy of betting, I change my way of betting because I am no longer happy with small wins (although stable) and after I changed my betting strategy and let my emotions run, I lost all of my bankroll..
3278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 06, 2016, 03:11:26 PM
I think the hope to win. one who has lost everything in gambling opes to earn some money back from it, but one deos not realise that its a double edge sword, we may lose more than before and the risk involved in gambling. We should consider all possiblities and be ready for worst outcome.

When we gamble, we always hope for the best but expect for the worst. We can mitigate losses with creating many sessions. Having many sessions will cover our losses and give us more chances of hitting our target profit.
Of course, we should not be bias with our decision in gambling and we should rely base on the accurate statistics rather than on superstitious belief. Only when we are so realistic will we have a chance to win in gambling in the long run.

I presume that what you mean about the statistics is based on your records on winning and losing of your bets according to chances and increase of bets in case of loss.

I agree with you to not believe on superstitious about gambling. You will win in gambling if you are lucky. Your goal then is create many sessions so that you will have more chances of becoming lucky.
3279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 06, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
easiest way is just remain away from it and use that money in trading !

Trading is also gambling. Although trading has less risk of losing than a real gambling. The only difference between them is that real gambling like poker, etc. is a  fast way to earn money. While trading requires patience to earn. If you have patience you can double or even more your money safely if you are patient to it. Gambling can also double your money but when it happens most people gets greedy a d they lose in the end.

I totally agree that Trading is like gambling with some differences. Common factor is, both gambling and trading is risky and cast easily eat all of your money if you don't know what you are doing and are not licky enough.

Better stay away from gambling and trading if you don't know anything about them yet. Do your homework first before going to trade or gamble.
3280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 06, 2016, 02:51:42 PM
gambling is fix my life if i win, then wreck my life if i lose Cheesy
to me it has not effect on my at all, because although i am doing gambling for making money and for getting fun from making money but i do gambling in a limit and try to exceed that limit. and therefor i can say that gambling has not special effect on my life.

Good for you that you can control yourself from gambling. Only less people are like you. Most people are addicted in gambling because they treat it as a stable and easy way to earn money. If they win they just get greedy instead of withdrawing it already. They are hoping to win more not knowing they will eventually lose if they continue.

Definitely true. If you include emotions to gambling, then you will likely lose. Reason is that, emotions can lead you to being greedy. Once you get greedy in gambling, the rate of you getting bust is quite high.

If you are just new in gambling, better bet only money that you can afford to lose and that you are just playing it for fun. If you want to go hard in gambling, better practice bankroll management, emotionless betting, building many sessions, and pre-planned betting.
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