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3361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
Is RC4 working properly ?
That's the puzzling thing about it. RC4 is actually ok with darksend round = 1. The price drop surprised me.
Shitty timing... its been a bloodbath week for lots of cryptos... though in the big picture of 12 month cycle... not to bad...maybe except for ltc. im still way up... and that is why... long term investing in fundamentals always wins.  Wink


Its not just the timing. Its the non-existing outlook. Markets always need something to look out for, some kind of phantasy. That's what makes them advance.

For instance if RC4 would have announced as a fixed date and time, we would have seen a much bigger price rally. People would have set up countdown timers, tweets about upcoming RC4 would have been made etc etc

THATS whats drives markets! You need always to deliver outlooks! At the moment we have no outlook BEYOND RC4. The market recognizes that we will soon have a working anon, nevertheless: "What comes next?"
No matter what comes next it should be communicated early.

OUTLOOK boys, thats all that matters in markets.

Outlook BEYOND RC4.
The outlook is ip obfuscation

I doubt you will be able to build a rally upon that. Strengthen the anonymity further is good but thats not whats been looked after at the moment.

We need some phantasy/goal BEYOND a good and working anonymity. Whats comes next?
3362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
Is RC4 working properly ?
That's the puzzling thing about it. RC4 is actually ok with darksend round = 1. The price drop surprised me.
Shitty timing... its been a bloodbath week for lots of cryptos... though in the big picture of 12 month cycle... not to bad...maybe except for ltc. im still way up... and that is why... long term investing in fundamentals always wins.  Wink


Its not just the timing. Its the non-existing outlook. Markets always need something to look out for, some kind of phantasy. That's what makes them advance.

For instance if RC4 would have announced as a fixed date and time, we would have seen a much bigger price rally. People would have set up countdown timers, tweets about upcoming RC4 would have been made etc etc

THATS whats drives markets! You need always to deliver outlooks! At the moment we have no outlook BEYOND RC4. The market recognizes that we will soon have a working anon, nevertheless: "What comes next?"
No matter what comes next it should be communicated early.

OUTLOOK boys, thats all that matters in markets.

Outlook BEYOND RC4.
3363  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: August 15, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
evan hatte gestern schon angekündigt das RC4 montag oder dientag kommen wird. von dem her wirds wohl kein fake sein.

die frage ist eher ob der kurs darauf überhaupt positiv (oder negativ) reagieren wird? gut möglich das gar nichts passiren wird und dann aus enttäuschung 0.005 als nächstes anstehen.

scheint wohl so zu kommen...
3364  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 14, 2014, 11:02:29 PM

als bulle hat mans schwer...  Grin

Soon price will go up, yes yes yes

up Up UP! Very soon!
3365  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: MtGox geht in Konkurs on: August 14, 2014, 07:50:46 PM
Was meint ihr eigentlich, was jetzt der höchstwahrscheinlichste Ausgang dieses Desasters ist?

Die 200k werden unter den Glübigern aufgeteilt. Das ganze kommt dann mit Fiat Schulden und Co auf ca 20% Resterstattung in BTC. Über die Bühne geht as ganze Ende 2015.
3366  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 14, 2014, 03:09:24 PM
ETF ist ein "Spekulationstool"

Eben nicht. Ein "Spekulationstool" wären Optionen oder Futures (diese können übrigens einen Kurs auch stabilisieren). Ein ETF muss schlicht und ergreifend jeden an der Nasdaq gekauften BTC real hinterlegen und bildet somit quasi eine "Brücke" zwischen Börsen wie Bitstamp,OTC-Handel und der "echten" Finanzwelt.

3367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
Not really, huobi and okcoin have mostly fake volumes. Biggest platform are bitstamp&bitfinex then btcchina. Not saying that huobi and okcoin has to be ignored (we are adding them very soon ) but their volumes has to be taken as half fake.

I avoid calling it "fake" volume, but I agree. The current (daily) leg of the capitulation is, in my opinion, mainly driven by Bitfinex - not really a surprise, given the huge built-up leveraged long positions that Blitz highlighted in his post ages ago. Despite their daily volume still being dwarfed by the Chinese exchanges.

So that's further evidence for those of us who believe that, while CNY volume might be "real", it is simply less relevant, per dollar, being largely automated, zero fee volume.

Is there a way to see Bitfinex long/short positions?
3368  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 14, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Wobei wenn man https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd auf 1w stellt und http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/anotomy-of-a-bubble.png danebei hält sieht das eher aus als ob wir gerade bei "euphorias last gasp" sind und "real bottom" erst noch kommt in den nächsten Monaten.  Roll Eyes

Ich habe, angefangen mit der Aktienhausse Ende der 90er, schon etliche Bubbles erlebt. Momentan sind wir Stimmungstechnisch weit von einer euphorischen Stimmung entfernt. Ich würde uns tatsächlich eher in die Nähe der "Final Capitulation" setzen.

Imo erleben wir gerade immernoch die Auswirkungen der Gox-Pleite. Es fehlt eine globale vertrauenswürdige Exchange welche es schafft auch komplette Bitcoin-Noobs zu animieren. Das Vertrauen in die Exchanges wieder herzustellen dürfte eine Weile dauern. Das Gox-Desaster haben auch Leute mitbekommen welch rein garnichts mit Bitcoin zu tun hatten bisher.

Doch es gibt auch positive Ausblicke: Wall Street. Sollte die Anbindung per ETF an die Nasdaq bekanntgegeben werden dürfte das eine Rally auslösen. Institutionelle Investoren stehen momentan Schlange um über einen seriösen Weg Bitcoins in grossem Stil erwerben zu können. Bestes Beispiel: die Silkroad-Auktion.

Sobald ein seröser Weg bereitet ist um grosse Summen sicher in Bitcoin anzulegen knallt der Kurs durch die Decke.

3369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 13, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
Wow, I'm not happy at all.

libdb changes have destroyed all of my wallet.dat files. I have no DRK.
Ran into the issue before. Use -salvagewallet Should repair it. Then tranfer all to new wallet.

Make sure your using libdb 4.8
--salvagewallet fails and creates a wallet.[timestamp].bak file.

apt seems to think I have no berkley libdb installed at all... Other wallet.dat files work fine...

I can't deal with this shit now. Nothing but bad news all week. It's actually LESS of a problem to write DRK off as a loss than deal with this right now. There's no reason for it.
dpkg -l "libdb" then purge them.
I'm way too stressed out before this happened. I don't trust myself. About zero brain function. Fuck it.
Don't play with money when stressed or tired, just leave it alone and come back later.
All DRKs lost. No hope of recovery.
Are you serious? Don't you literally have thousands of coins, and you don't have a backup or the keys printed out? I can't believe that.
The backups were destroyed, too. It's fucking unbelievable. It's like wallet.dat files were targeted on a drive that wasn't even powered up. External USB drive, encrypted. Everything on it is intact, except the backups of my wallet.dat files.

Relax and take a break before doing more harm. Harddisk specialist gather data from broken disks after months. Maybe those files can be fixed by someone.
3370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 13, 2014, 04:22:40 PM
Price is rather odd. One would except at least some spike no? I'm not even a trader, but a holder, but this is slow.

missing outlook

Think long-term type thing?

we got a working system, now its all about projects using this system

darkmarkets and additional pr would help

Agreed, best approach? Some new articles? How to get companies to adopt is key.

i remember evan saying that he has media at his hands. lets see what the coming weeks bring.

kristofs review could help too. but apart from that the last rc2/3 fiaskos destroyed some positive sentiment that has to be gained again.
3371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 13, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
Price is rather odd. One would except at least some spike no? I'm not even a trader, but a holder, but this is slow.

missing outlook

Think long-term type thing?

we got a working system, now its all about projects using this system

darkmarkets and additional pr would help
3372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 13, 2014, 04:13:14 PM
Price is rather odd. One would except at least some spike no? I'm not even a trader, but a holder, but this is slow.

missing outlook
3373  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: August 13, 2014, 02:10:11 PM

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-launch.2033/
3374  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: DARKCOIN - Wegbereiter der anonymen Cryptocurrencies on: August 13, 2014, 01:51:20 PM


RC4 ist live!

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-launch.2033/
3375  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 13, 2014, 12:46:41 PM

zumindest ist endlich mal bewegung da
3376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
Fucking Ethereum, why the fuck are they dumping the ipo coins.

Etherum dinied dumping yesterday.
3377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2014, 10:49:10 AM
By the end of the year nobody will even talking about Bitcoin anymore. I sold hours ago.

Exactly. And now plz leave. Nothing to be seen here anymore.
3378  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 12, 2014, 11:50:21 AM

der letzte abschwung beim btc könnte wohl etherum gewesen sein, die jungs hatten ja angekündigt das sie die bitcoin zu $ machen werden
3379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 12, 2014, 02:09:51 AM
In the meanwhile, LTC flashcrashing to 4.85 and no obvious rebound... you need have stainless steel balls to keep hodling that bag

and it has still a marketcap of 180Mio$. some way to go for ltc imo.
3380  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: August 11, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
evan hatte gestern schon angekündigt das RC4 montag oder dientag kommen wird. von dem her wirds wohl kein fake sein.

die frage ist eher ob der kurs darauf überhaupt positiv (oder negativ) reagieren wird? gut möglich das gar nichts passiren wird und dann aus enttäuschung 0.005 als nächstes anstehen.

Sag doch sowas nicht!  Undecided

Ja, ich weiss...  Roll Eyes

Eventuell wirds schon besser laufen, aber ich hab vorsorglich dennoch schonmal ein paar DRKs auf Mintpal gebracht.
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