Bitcoin Forum
June 30, 2024, 03:51:52 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 ... 230 »
341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 13, 2015, 04:37:01 PM

This doesn't prove that your "Reality" is either deterministic or random (let alone a "synthesis" of both)...

I wasn't trying to prove that reality is "either deterministic or random."  Furthermore, asserting that Reality is instead "self-determinate," and that self-determination is an explanatory model synthesizing both determinism and indeterminism, does not amount to saying that Reality is both determinate and indeterminate.  Rather, I'm asserting it is self-determinate, of which determinism and indeterminism are constituents.

Quote
...since there is nothing that would forbid the "causes" for both determinacy and indeterminacy (whichever you choose to stick with) to be this Reality's attributes, i.e. inherent properties...

Correct, but this doesn't necessarily lead to an infinite regression.  Where is the infinite regression, for example, in A --> B --> C --> A --> ...?

Quote
And, I guess, what is meant by "self-guidance" has nothing to do with that synthesis, which is not possible per se (since as soon as you allow some randomness, the world ultimately becomes indeterministic)

Incorrect, except at a topological level of understanding.  Determinism and indeterminism are concepts formulated out of relevance to each other, similar to causality and randomness.  Randomness is a product of a causal probability function of randomness.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/lpgerson/Plato_On_Identity_Sameness_And_Difference.pdf

Quote
The answer to the objection that we could specify identity and have nothing left
over for sameness is this. The attempt to identify, let alone re-identify, an existent with
divisible identity requires the inclusion of its divisible essence. That is, it is by using
divisible essence as a criterion that we identify something. For example, we determine
that this man has the same height today that he had yesterday. The divisible essence
cannot itself be constitutive of the existential identity. In the above frames (2) and (3), to
identify A1 or A2, we have to cognize it as something, as having some structure or other.
We have to cognize its divisible essence, regardless of our theory of what essence is
exactly or how we cognize it. The only way that the sameness of A1 and A2 could be
made impossible is by claiming that the identity of each is utterly uncognizable. Since
we do cognize divisible essence, the impossibility of sameness among different selfidentical
things is refuted, which is all Plato really needs to do. For the nominalist
objections do not amount to a quibble about this or that case of sameness; they typically
rest on the denial of the very possibility of sameness among self-identical things.36

Quote
What we are saying in all these cases is,
basically, that two or more things that appear to be different in some way or another
really are identical or one.39 In Platonic terms, we are saying that a diversity of essence
rests upon an identity.

Determinism and indeterminism, or causality and randomness, arise from a diversity of essence resting upon a common identity.  Any event we deem to be "random" is variant with respect to external causality (e.g. a random result "x" from a RNG is caused by a chance probability function), and any event we deem to be "causal" is invariant with respect to internal acausality (e.g. an RNG is not dependent upon its mutually-exclusive products).

Self-determinism (in this case, of logic, which both describes and is described by itself), synthesizes these perspectives to unify our understanding of them, relatively in terms of each other, and absolutely in terms of self-determinism.
342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 13, 2015, 02:40:35 PM
And if randomness happens all by itself, it could legitimately be a kind of back door for creative interference. Tinker a little in the right places, and you get a causal cascade. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting you and we're actually in agreement on this? People often seem to have this idea that randomness has some special property of being truly random. It doesn't have to "be" random at all, all we know is that we call something random if it looks random. There are plenty of examples where encoded messages have a white noise spectrum if you're not the intended recipient.

Thereby all "randomness" can potentially be reduced to just a pure lack of knowledge (or faith, for that matter), right? I mean that you (or scientists) cannot prove that there is "true" randomness at all, be it quantum randomness or whatever else sort of randomness (the hypothesis of the "hidden variables")...

Ultimately, you are still stuck with the Primary Cause (and the cause of that, wtf)
 

Determinancy vs. Indeterminancy is a false dichotomy.  Self-determinancy or self-configuration is a 3rd option.

So things get even more complicated than that. Though, personally, I doubt that what you call "self-determinancy" (or "self-configuration") cannot be further reduced to either of the first two...

You should prove otherwise (for it to be a "3rd option")

The set of Reality contains that and only that which is real.  If there were something 'real enough' outside of Reality so as to be able to affect it, then obviously it wouldn't be outside of Reality, but rather inside.

Accordingly, there is nothing external to reality which is real enough to determine it.  There is no need to look for an infinite regression in a self-contained system.  Reality must embody the rules of self-configuration because there is nothing external to it which is real enough to configure it.

Edit:  Think of self-determinancy or self-configuration as a synthesis of determinancy and indeterminancy.  Note that logic is self-determinant or self-configuring, i.e. "sound logic is soundly logical according to sound logic."
343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 13, 2015, 02:05:28 PM
But what if you've got it backwards?
"Cause and effect" are ideas in our minds, which we've somehow acquired in trying to explain the world. Our senses provide us with data about the world, and we use our reason to figure out what we're looking at.

And funnily enough, you might be unwittingly throwing away a huge piece of evidence which supports the possibility of a god. I.e.: randomness.
Take quantum randomness for example. Radioactive decay or photons mysteriously picking a definite but random-looking path, etc. This is actually hopeful for non-atheists because it's something atheists can't explain with a purely causal universe. As far as science can tell, nothing "causes" radioactive decay, it just happens all by itself.

And if randomness happens all by itself, it could legitimately be a kind of back door for creative interference. Tinker a little in the right places, and you get a causal cascade. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting you and we're actually in agreement on this? People often seem to have this idea that randomness has some special property of being truly random. It doesn't have to "be" random at all, all we know is that we call something random if it looks random. There are plenty of examples where encoded messages have a white noise spectrum if you're not the intended recipient.

Thereby all "randomness" can potentially be reduced to just a pure lack of knowledge (or faith, for that matter), right? I mean that you (or scientists) cannot prove that there is "true" randomness at all, be it quantum randomness or whatever else sort of randomness (the hypothesis of the "hidden variables")...

Ultimately, you are still stuck with the Primary Cause (and the cause of that, wtf)
 

Determinancy vs. Indeterminancy is a false dichotomy.  Self-determinancy or self-configuration is a 3rd option.
344  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 x r9-290x Sapphire on: June 12, 2015, 09:58:48 PM
Make an offer on one or any number of these cards!  Excellent quality, negotiable pricing, and fast delivery with prompt communication.

Smiley
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: People don't want to invest into bitcoin because its a software on: June 12, 2015, 07:47:31 PM
@Everyone,

The "don't feed the troll" crap is immature, stupid, and reflects a hypocrisy in community mindset akin to, "We need to help everyone understand why this is the greatest technological development since the Internet...except you, because you don't understand it." 

Are there people who troll intentionally?  Yes, of course.  Is it easy to distinguish at face value who is and who is not just a troll?  NO.  Bitcoin is foreign to people.  When I first heard about it, I immediately had all kinds of red flags in mind.  Now, four years later, the knowledge I've gained has eliminated many of those red flags.  But I'm still aware that red flags most certainly do exist, that points of attack and weakness also still exist, and there are numerous, realistic scenarios which still exist that threaten BTC's existence on a daily basis.  To this extent, many devout community members still maintain a form of Mt. Gox Syndrome, but they'll never be aware of it unless/until something happens to change it.  Hindsight is 20/20, and foresight is apparently underrated.

There are people here who block others for the sole reason that they believe Bitcoin will ultimately fail.  Yeah...that really helps adoption  Roll Eyes

You raise a good point, joint. However, the original top post just said :

People can hack it  Angry

And that's it. And that's a goddamned trollpost. See:


EDIT : Some additional arguments since it was initially a troll (...)

OP since expanded his trollpost it with some putatively honest misgivings. And that's fine.

I mentioned BTC to a State Farm agent the other day while getting an estimate for my car after a hit-and-run.  He's heard of it before through several media sources and articles.  He was completely under the impression of its potential to be hacked, manipulated, etc.  He also had a very difficult time understanding the concept of decentralization.

That is simply what many average, misinformed citizens think.  The State Farm agent was in no way a troll.

And yes, I noticed the OP's addendum clarifying it was a troll post, but that's beside the point.
346  Economy / Speculation / Re: People don't want to invest into bitcoin because its a software on: June 12, 2015, 04:56:31 PM
@ OP, I'll get to your attackers in a second.  But first, it's clear you have fundamental misunderstandings about what actually constitutes a legitimate problem for Bitcoin.  Addressing your most recent concerns:

- Dev's -- even core devs -- making changes even frivolously or carelessly, is a non-issue.  It is software, but it is "open-source" software adopted democratically by miners.  Poor changes will not be adopted, and if they are, its a community issue and not a software one.

- The open-source nature allows anyone capable of reading code to find errors or carelessness.  This is how problems become identified and fixed.  This will not tend towards deterioration.  There are far too many eyes on the code for someone to slip in a major exploit that will go unnoticed.

- Your premise that software is necessarily, "theoretically" hackable is silly.  The nature of software is not that it's hackable "theoretically."  Software is hackable if the code allows it to be.  Good code necessarily and "theoretically" means it is either, entirely hackable, or all hackable exploits are known.

- Competition is "wonderful!"  This is not a bad thing.  Competition --> evolution --> better product.



@Everyone,

The "don't feed the troll" crap is immature, stupid, and reflects a hypocrisy in community mindset akin to, "We need to help everyone understand why this is the greatest technological development since the Internet...except you, because you don't understand it." 

Are there people who troll intentionally?  Yes, of course.  Is it easy to distinguish at face value who is and who is not just a troll?  NO.  Bitcoin is foreign to people.  When I first heard about it, I immediately had all kinds of red flags in mind.  Now, four years later, the knowledge I've gained has eliminated many of those red flags.  But I'm still aware that red flags most certainly do exist, that points of attack and weakness also still exist, and there are numerous, realistic scenarios which still exist that threaten BTC's existence on a daily basis.  To this extent, many devout community members still maintain a form of Mt. Gox Syndrome, but they'll never be aware of it unless/until something happens to change it.  Hindsight is 20/20, and foresight is apparently underrated.

There are people here who block others for the sole reason that they believe Bitcoin will ultimately fail.  Yeah...that really helps adoption  Roll Eyes
347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 17-year-old Bitcoiner faces prison for tweeting about... You guessed it! Bitcoin on: June 12, 2015, 12:49:18 AM
Tweet a link to bitcoin.org, go to prison?

That's nothing at all what this kid did.  Take a look at the article.  It wasn't even a mere description of how ISIL could use BTC to their advantage.  It was more like a, "Hey, *nudge nudge*, here's your "how-to" guide, and I even convinced this other dude I know to come join you guys!"
348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 17-year-old Bitcoiner faces prison for tweeting about... You guessed it! Bitcoin on: June 11, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
The focus of this article is hardly about Bitcoin.  I do not see any spin whatsoever being cast about Bitcoin.  There's nothing here that intentionally casts BTC in a negative light, and omitting any mention of BTC would necessarily omit from the article the reasons for which the boy was actually charged.

The article is about an ISIL sympathizer who tried to directly provide information that could be used to propel terrorists activities using social media.  That's it.

Don't worry, the other periodicals with pick up the mantle: http://fusion.net/story/149244/teen-who-tried-to-give-isis-bitcoin-advice-pleads-guilty-to-supporting-terror/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thisisfusion&hootPostID=0c30f1d9d59b1b6e1963372f01d33f25

Quote


“New developments in Bitcoin have allowed marketplaces that run on whatever law system the individuals choose,” he wrote. “This instantly allows for shari’ [Islamic Law] only compliant markets that cross all borders, nation state regulations, send money instantly, and are untrackable by kafir governments.”

Amin also blogged for a site called Coin Brief. The site has since removed his articles, but a Google Cache snapshot shows Amin’s pieces included a story on OpenBazaar, the Bitcoin-based “police-proof” website that just raised $1 million from venture fund Andreessen Horowitz.

Yeah...some journalists are bound to start veering towards irrelevancy.  Still, this new reference doesn't seem to spin much, either.  The first half you mention is a direct quote from the kid's posting.  The second half arguably starts fueling one's imagination, but I'd say it also (arguably) doesn't.  It's information that highlights that his tweet wasn't a one-time promotion, and that he sought alternative avenues to distribute his information.

However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few truly-sensationalist articles come from this event.

I'm curious:  In your opinion, how slanted to you personally believe these articles are?

Edit:  If you want to read some slant, check out my BTC Mag article on early payment processors  Cheesy
349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 17-year-old Bitcoiner faces prison for tweeting about... You guessed it! Bitcoin on: June 11, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
The focus of this article is hardly about Bitcoin.  I do not see any spin whatsoever being cast about Bitcoin.  There's nothing here that intentionally casts BTC in a negative light, and omitting any mention of BTC would necessarily omit from the article the reasons for which the boy was actually charged.

The article is about an ISIL sympathizer who tried to directly provide information that could be used to propel terrorists activities using social media.  That's it.
350  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I'm Not Running any Ponzi and I'm not a Ponzi scammer on: June 11, 2015, 06:36:49 PM
Allegations on me by Quickseller on me I will give all the answer here asked by anyone.

"I was given access to BTCBLOGGER's account and reviewed his PM history with his permission.

Here is what I found when reviewing your PM history:

I was able to find PM's to/from the two likely scam sites that you have escrowed for. I was able to find a PM to(and from) a single site that rejected your services. Other then the above, I was unable to find any sites/users that you were sending/receiving PM's to/from regarding your signature campaign services.

I would consider you proposing your services to various sites to be similar to "cold calling" which generally has a very low "conversation" rate, and an even lower rate when you actually make contact with your potential customers. However you were able to sell your services to 66% of your prospects and made contact with 100% of your prospects. Additionally, what you were doing would likely be considered to be PM spam and as a result would likely be something that would have resulted in a ban if such PM's were reported, which is something that does not appear to have happened.

Additionally, you were able to get someone to trust you with their money after you received a negative trust rating from someone in the Default Trust network, and had a 'trade with extreme caution tag' which is highly suspicious.

I would say that the PM evidence is inclusive at best, however the evidence suggesting that you are the same person as the ponzi scams you are "escrowing" for are undebunked."

You keep asking people to verify this when I first verified this a very long ago. Why? It seems to me to just be some weak attempt at cleaning yourself after you screwed up big time and essentially tried to extort - no, you are still trying to extort, and when people point that out, you play the victim and say you're being falsely portrayed as a scammer. Do you really think you are helping your image?
I challenge all the detective and admin and all trusted member here badbear,doohlus,theymos,Quickseller,the joint and any other to prove that I am cryptommm and SNavy if you are able to do so with valid proof then I will commit suicide after giving him all my property but if you fails to do so you have to apologies for your mistake within next 30 days. Do court cases do anything you can do just prove that I'm SNavy.
I'm really very disappointed with this feeling like I'm am a big thief/scammer/killer etc I'm really angry with that.

The negative feedback I left has nothing to do with:

Quote
...prov[ing] that I am cryptommm and SNavy...

Instead, it has everything to do with:

Quote
I'm running with the money now and will return the money to the owner only if Quickseller remove his trust rating from my account and...

Money that isn't yours, isn't yours.  Simple concept.  Whether or not you steal from someone else shouldn't, in any way, be dependent upon what Quickseller does.
351  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I'm Not Running any Ponzi and I'm not a Ponzi scammer on: June 11, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
I am going from here let me know when all the negative trust left in last 24 will be removed by those member who left them.
Email - chauhanmohan35@gmail.com
Just a single email will work from Quickseller
Only one person is responsible for this Quickseller he has to apologies for his wrong perception.
I will return all the funds within 24 hours after getting email from him.

Yep, this is really going to help you.  Roll Eyes
Oh thank you very much for making me a scammer you guys are awesome Really awesome.

You did it to yourself, leave yourself appropriate thanks.
No Quickseller forced me to do that i'm still agree to return all the fund provided all who leaved negative trust except dooglus agrees to remove it from my account.

He didn't "force" you to do anything.  It's called a choice.

You're greedy, and somehow you have convinced yourself that feeling as if you've been unfairly screwed over by one person gives you justification to screw over someone else.  That's an ugly and detestable quality.  All it shows is that your ethics are incredibly loose, and that whatever you think is right is accompanied by an unspoken footnote, "...as long as I get something out of it, too."
352  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: June 11, 2015, 04:37:27 PM
Was this simply an addition rather than a point of correction or clarification?

Neither/nor. (I.e., of the interpretation and interpreter, the interpreter “is.”)

Self-apparently, yes.
353  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I'm Not Running any Ponzi and I'm not a Ponzi scammer on: June 11, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
Like I said in my PM to you, and in my neutral trust rating, the evidence in your PM history is inclusive and I do not think it disproves the fact that it appears as if you are running various ponzi sites via potential alts.

You already had a negative trust rating from dooglus when SNavy had agreed to use you to escrow/run their signature campaign. I do not think I have ever seen anyone accept escrow from someone when the person offering their escrow services had an overall negative trust rating. Not only that, but I did not see any kind of conversation between you and SNavy regarding the negative rating, which is something that I would expect to happen.

According to your above post, you did not receive a response and/or were rejected when you proposed running a signature campaign on behalf of 4 other companies, plus one more that I found in your PM history would make five. That means that 2 out of 7 sites agreed to use your services, which works out to a ~14% conversation rate, which IMO is extremely high for what is effectively cold calling, and the proposal you wrote was effectively an initial pitch to get their attention, not a more detailed sales pitch once they responded.

I am also not the only one who believes that you are running the two likely scam sites whose signature campaigns you are running. You have received negative trust ratings from a number of other people, and several people in your various threads have accused you of running the sites you are escrowing for.

I hope you can understand how a reasonable person can come to the same conclusion that I did with the facts that were available to me (and available to the public).

I'm running with the money now and will return the money to the owner only if Quickseller remove his trust rating from my account and apologies for his big mistake and agree not to make this kind of mistake again in future I'm also wrong about my perception that he is a genius in finding alt account i wants let everyone know he just neglect the fact available and accept the fact that are not available to judge alt account. I don't think his rating can be taken as trusted.
Only Quickseller knows the password of this account and he was solely responsible for any hack on this account.

Quickseller looks very confident about his allegation what if it is found that i'm not snavy or any other alt which is posting in investor based game is not mine will he pay the 0.7 BTC of Snavy.


Negative feedback left.  Nice blackmail  Roll Eyes
354  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ►►► Win .5 Bitcoin contest - give a new name to our company on: June 11, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Please read the OP...

Contest Schedule:
15 May - July 15, 2015. : name ideas submission 
July 16 - August 31, 2015 : voting
September 1, 2015 : choosing winners

I think the issue is that it's a ridiculous timeline, and structured in a way where it gives reason to think the payout will never happen.  Six weeks to vote?  I mean...why?
355  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 x r9-290x Sapphire on: June 10, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
base price for all cards?

I'm looking in the $275-$300/BTC shipped range per card.  All cards have seen very little use.  I'm open to offers.


Hmm I have a few items i would be willing to trade? Let me know how you might entertain the thought.

Two things i can part with aside from any cash would be a Evga GTX980 and an antminer S5. I really dont want to part with the miner. Is there anything we could work out with cash/GTX? Let me know!

Cash or BTC is really what I need, unfortunately.  I'm trying to finish a massive home remodeling project, and someone just hit-and-ran my new car over the weekend Sad 

IT WAS ME

haha jk. sorry to hear it man. I'm in the middle of moving myself. Hence why i only offered a trade since my $ and BTC is critical right now.

Why kind of teal hunk-a-junk you drivin'?! Lol

No worries Smiley don't happen to have a leather sofa hideaway do you? Lol
356  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 x r9-290x Sapphire on: June 10, 2015, 05:56:05 PM
base price for all cards?

I'm looking in the $275-$300/BTC shipped range per card.  All cards have seen very little use.  I'm open to offers.


Hmm I have a few items i would be willing to trade? Let me know how you might entertain the thought.

Two things i can part with aside from any cash would be a Evga GTX980 and an antminer S5. I really dont want to part with the miner. Is there anything we could work out with cash/GTX? Let me know!

Cash or BTC is really what I need, unfortunately.  I'm trying to finish a massive home remodeling project, and someone just hit-and-ran my new car over the weekend Sad 
357  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 x r9-290x Sapphire on: June 10, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
base price for all cards?

I'm looking in the $275-$300/BTC shipped range per card.  All cards have seen very little use.  I'm open to offers.
358  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: June 10, 2015, 02:14:47 AM
Logic is a predicate for truth.  Truth takes the form of sound, rational statements (note: root word of 'rationale' is 'ratio').  Truth, as it is relevant to us, does not exist outside of these rational statements.  Accordingly, truth should be modeled in terms of the mind as it relates to the rest of reality.


The best model one can theoretically come up with to explain something must meet a few criteria:  It must 1) Be internally consistent, 2) Comprehensively and soundly explain all information it attempts to do so, and 3) Introduce the fewest number of assumptions, ideally zero.  Falsification of the model can happen on two levels.  At a lower level, the model can be rendered internally invalid if new information is introduced which should be explained by it, but isn't.  At a higher level, the model can be rendered externally invalid if another model, which is broader in its scope, not only explains all information in the original model, but synthesizes this knowledge with other information unexplained by the original model (the result being a deeper understanding which predicates any topological understanding).


the exact principles of scientific proof for many things
(Red colorization mine.)


Quote from: Don Koks. “What are Half Lives and Mean Lives?” Don Koks, 223. 08 Mar. 235. link=http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/HalfLife/halfLife.html
So certainly physics has not proven, and can never prove, that its theory of atomic decay is true.  The logical process is that if atoms decay randomly, then Poisson statistics will result.  Experiments show that Poisson statistics do indeed result, but logically this does not mean that atoms decay randomly.  Nevertheless, the way of science is that we do postulate that atoms decay randomly, until a new experiment calls this into question.  But no experiment ever has.  If this sounds like a reverse use of logic, then consider the same ideas for mechanics.  Ideas of gravity, mass and acceleration were originally produced by Newton through the same process: because they predicted planetary orbital periods that could be verified experimentally.  Because of this great success, expressions such as F = ma and F = GMm/r2 came to be canonical in physics.  The logic was indeed being used in reverse; but no one was surprised when, three centuries later, one of the moon astronauts dropped a feather and a hammer together in the moon's vacuum, and found that they both fell at the same rate (although it was still beautiful and dramatic to watch!).  That reverse logic had, after all, allowed him to get to the moon in the first place.  So this way of conducting science works very well.
(Red colorization mine.)

In (conventional) mathematics, a “statement” (e.g., 𝑎² + 𝑏² ≟ 𝑐²) can be either proven or disproven. In (conventional) science, a hypothesis (e.g., “Every object in the Universe attracts…”) can only be disproven.

I understand and agree with all of this.  Was this simply an addition rather than a point of correction or clarification?
359  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 x r9-290x Sapphire on: June 09, 2015, 09:21:19 PM
Would you ship to the uk?

Sure Smiley

What's the problem in escrow ? It will be safe for both buyer and seller.

Just read a thread recently where op loses due to no escrow Sad

I'd argue I'm just as trustworthy as an escrow and that it adds an unnecessary layer of trust.

You can trust one, or trust two.  It's up to you.  However, I've made it a point to consistently push no escrow in my sales so that I can continue to do so.  There have been no issues.  My buyers can vouch for me with their experience.

I also videotape the packing process and drop-off process when possible.
360  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: June 09, 2015, 08:16:46 PM
There's no god, the answer is something way way way bigger than our brains could ever hope to understand.  There are infinite reasons why infinite universes exist, have existed, and will exist.  Trying to look for a simple answer is human nature; there is no answer.

Logic is a predicate for truth.  Truth takes the form of sound, rational statements (note: root word of 'rationale' is 'ratio').  Truth, as it is relevant to us, does not exist outside of these rational statements.  Accordingly, truth should be modeled in terms of the mind as it relates to the rest of reality.


The best model one can theoretically come up with to explain something must meet a few criteria:  It must 1) Be internally consistent, 2) Comprehensively and soundly explain all information it attempts to do so, and 3) Introduce the fewest number of assumptions, ideally zero.  Falsification of the model can happen on two levels.  At a lower level, the model can be rendered internally invalid if new information is introduced which should be explained by it, but isn't.  At a higher level, the model can be rendered externally invalid if another model, which is broader in its scope, not only explains all information in the original model, but synthesizes this knowledge with other information unexplained by the original model (the result being a deeper understanding which predicates any topological understanding).


In the universe, we are aware of two great opposing things. One of them is the exact opposite of the thing that entropy produces. The other is entropy and the things that it produces.

We see entropy at work tearing down the things that are exactly opposite of what it produces. We don't see any cause that could have caused the opposite of what entropy produces to exist. There is nothing at all that we can see that could have built the great marvels of the universe that entropy is destroying.

Mankind is part of the universe. The mind of man may be the greatest thing of and in the universe. The mind of man is the only thing that we see that has abounding intelligence and reasoning abilities. It is the only thing that can produce highly advanced "things" of intelligent design.

Because mankind has been around for a long time, and because we don't see anything other than entropy working for at least as long as mankind has been around, mankind and his mind have been deteriorating due to entropy, just like everything else.

As we extrapolate back in time, we move toward a place and time when either there wasn't any entropy, or else entropy and the exact opposite of entropy (whatever it is) were completely balanced. What would the mind of mankind have been like back then?

Whatever it is that could design the intelligent mind of mankind way back before it had deteriorated due to the addition of entropy, is God. Whatever this God is, He/She/It is still God... by the dictionary definitions.

Smiley

Ok, so you are proposing your own theoretical model. Let's look at it.

Responding in paragraphical order:

1)  While it is true we become aware of entropy because we identify it as separate from its inverse, i.e. non-entropy, this dichotomy doesn't serve as a great basis for formulating a model of reality.  Entropy itself is an abstract model of patterns which are directly observable in physical systems.  This has deep implications for your model; I'll get to those as I go on.

2)  Slight correction -- we observe that systems break down which both enables us to form an entropic model of closed systems, and also reinforces this model through continued observation.  But yes, you are correct that we do not observe any direct cause of the processes we have modeled as entropy.

3)  Although it's irrelevant, animals can make/build tools, homes/dens/nests, etc. which can be described as either extremely complex or extremely simple, based upon your perspective.  But again, all of this is really irrelevant, anyway. The point is that we have no choice but to rationalize with logic and form the best theoretical models that we can, inasmuch as our human minds allow us to do so.

4)  This is where the implications I mentioned in point #1 become important and relevant to your model.  You cannot infer from entropy that the human mind is also moving towards disorder.  This is because entropy, as I explained in #1, is an abstract (i.e. of mind) model of physical systems.  Based on this information, you cannot conclude that the abstract mind necessarily deteriorates as it does not fall within the scope of the model.

5)  Here, you start going all over the place.  First, you're not going to get a fundamental understanding of anything through extrapolation.  The process of extrapolating removes the ability to conclude at a 100% level of confidence.  

Second, you make contradictory statements with regards to time.  "Time" is better modeled in terms of "spacetime" where space and time are inseparable and synthesized in a unity of understanding, which thus provides broader scope than a discussion of "time" alone.  Because of its physical components, "spacetime" can be modeled as a physical system, and thus one to which entropy applies.  If you try to extrapolate back in time, you'll find that you can't assume any type of physical reality in which entropy didn't apply (and, therefore, can't assume any "time" at which entropy didn't apply).

Third, Einstein modeled via the Theory of Relativity that time is a relative function.  The model itself could be described as a superpositional explanation of time as it relates to space.  In contrast, you are describing/modeling time in a purely linear fashion. which falls short in scope to the Einsteinian model.  The result is that a correct answer to your question, "What would the mind of mankind have been like back then?" would only provide a topological understanding of mind.  Put simply, better models lending to more comprehensive conclusions must necessarily exist.

6)  Here, your premise that something existed to create the human mind which "deteriorated due to the addition of entropy" is invalid for the aforementioned reasons (e.g. we can't conclude the human mind is necessarily subject to entropy based upon laws of thermodynamics, etc.).  

What you can say is something like, "There is some unknown cause, 'x', and for practicality I'm going to say x=God.  And so, therefore, because the unknown cause exists, God exists."

What you can't do is reach this conclusion that God exists, and then say that because God exists it embodies all the characteristics you think it does based upon your Biblical understanding of it, or any other preconceived notion of God that you might have. This precludes your ability to make any other statements about God, unless you can form a sound, theoretical model for it.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 ... 230 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!