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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 30, 2017, 10:27:33 PM
Yes, whois seems to indicate I control devcoin.org DNS at Namecheap.

Who runs the server devcoin.org is on? Can they set up a web based email thing?

I now have webserver and at least rudimentary mail stuff on my dvcstable01.dvcnode.org dedicated server but having problems with LFM membership-site script so have been wrestling with that instead of getting full mail stuff set up there quite yet.

EDIT:

I do not control DeVCoin.org's nameserver itself, I just control WHICH nameservers the domain uses, and currently it uses someone else's. So either they make the change or I have to disconnect them so the domain uses nameservers that I control.

HOWEVER, I do control the domain DeVCoin.info, which I have now caused to forward to the hostname of the explorer.

-MarkM-
342  Economy / Micro Earnings / Galactic Milieu on: January 30, 2017, 12:08:01 AM
It may seem strange to list the Galactic Milieu under Micro Earnings since serious players deal in such large amounts of goods assets and currencies, but as long as we are still able to allow free signups through at least one of the "rabbitholes" that lead into the Milieu Micro Earnings will continue to be possible.

We build the Galactic Milieu from existing free open source software, but of course most existing systems tend to give starting players various startup gear, which in a reasonable economy has to come from somewhere.

Of course anything a player starts with has some value, even if small, so as long as we allow any free rabbitholes into the Milieu we are giving stuff away, even if that stuff consists only of the meat, organs and so on that a butcher can chop the player's character up into.

Thus even if we started new characters naked there would be "micro earnings" available even if only by killing starting characters, butchering them for their organs and such, and selling the parts of them to butcher shops or necromancers or whatever.

As it is, we are currently still allowing people to sign up free at our "CrossCiv" Crossfire RPG server, and even still have new characters start out with some gear.

If the ability to start new player-accounts and characters free is abused, of course, we will have to start charging if only to limit the amount of "spamming" of player-accounts and characters.

But as of this writing, the rabbithole known as CrossCiv is still open to free players.

Historically the integration of cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies has been through guilds, associations, clans and such (groups), with the provision of such services by the guild (or clan, etc) officers being a large part of why people join such groups. There has even been some work done on adding coin daemon access to the bartender NPCs in guild/clan/etc houses.

Recently we have created a currency, CCAMB to implement the trading of Amberium on the Horizon (NHZ) platform. Depending on how well that goes, we might also implement such a currency or asset on other such platforms (Burst? Next? Etc).

For years now we have maintained online tables of conversion rates between a number of the currencies and assets commonly used in the Milieu at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html but CCAMB is the first time we have attempted to integrate the built-in currency of the Crossfire RPG system into a trading platform. Bailing coins into and out of the system will, at least initially, be handled by guild/clan/etc (group) officers, so if you wish to move Amberium between the CrossCiv server and the Horizon platform you will for now continue to use your guild/clan/etc connections, affiliations, alliances etc just as you already do for various other financial services.

-MarkM-
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 26, 2017, 07:35:04 AM

Maybe we need to offer bounties for gateway and free open source exchange code development?


Something like this?:

https://bitsquare.io/

Not sure, as I do not yet know how it implements the actual trades, except that it does not seem to use atomic cross-blockchain transfers.

So I guess I need to look deeper into it.

(Oops, just took a quick look on github and it only talks about bitcoin nothing about listing other coins?)

With some coins / currencies / assets markets are more about price discovery than volume, and those seem to be the coins most likely to get dropped by the current crop of public exchanges since those exchanges do not seem to have a stake in the currencies they list.

For a lot of the currencies that are widely used in the Galactic Milieu we have data online to help people who are looking to figure out prices / values, see http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html but even just to keep those pages updated we do kind of need markets to exist somewhere in order to discover prices for things whose value cannot be computed by adding up the assets in their treasury and dividing that total by the number of coins or shares.

DeVCoin of course is one of the coins we used markets to discover prices for, since there is not yet a treasury backing the coins so we cannot add up the value of the assets in the treasury and divide that total by the number of DeVCoins that have so far been minted to come up with a "value" per coin.

Because there had been exchanges we could look at to "discover" DVC prices the DeVCorp (current valuation is listed at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/companies.html) we set up was simple another 1,000,000 shares Corp with a goal of trying to help maintain and increase the value of DeVCoins, instead of simply serving as a treasury holding assets used to "back" the coins.

-MarkM-
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: January 25, 2017, 06:41:05 AM
DeVCoin is definitely still in use, and the Devtome was working too last time I went to post something there.

The big problem with the web-based public exchanges is they all need volume to operate (to cover their expenses), what would be really useful would be good secure reliable free open source coin-exchange software so that folks who actually use and hold a coin can run an exchange for it.

People who do not care about volume but, rather, about liquidity.

The difference being how many coins you COULD buy or sell at any given moment IF you chose to, instead of how many people actually DO happen to buy or sell in any given month or year.

Part of what made Open Transactions so attractive was the ability to have markets of any asset versus any asset, since assets used in games trade mostly with each other rather than mostly trading back and forth to/from fiat or bitcoin.

Once upon a time I looked into some software for Horizon (NHZ ak HZ) that was supposed to do a kind of gateway issuing tokens on receipt of coins on a blockchain and sending coins on a blockchain on receipt of tokens on the platform, but it might not be alive anymore and might not be ready for production use. But we could still issue HZDVC tokens on the HZ network allowing DVC to be used on that network, it is just that going from blackchain to platform and back is not automated thus will take human intervention thus will need to be either something not done often and done in large sums that make it worth the human operator's time to do them or be expensive, or both.

For example maybe I could find time to occasionally accept units of 100 millions of devcoins and issue tokens for them and to accept units of 100 millions of the tokens and issue coins on the blockchain for them, but it would be carzy for me to fart around with a few millions coins here and there back and forth. So a certain number of HZDVC would exist and an ever increasing (due to minting) number of bnlackcian based DVC would exist and occasionally a nation or corp or guild or clan or whatever would bail a few hundred million coins into the system and maybe, even more rarely, someone might cash out a few hundred million back onto the blockchain. It would be much nicer to have some automated gateway system though.

Maybe we need to offer bounties for gateway and free open source exchange code development?

-MarkM-

345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][I0C] I0coin hardfork DONE, everybody please upgrade to at least 0.8.3-2 on: December 27, 2016, 09:39:48 AM
Cryptsy stole 800,000 or more IXCoins and also a lot of bitcoins that had been a big part of thecapital backing both IXCoin and I0Coin, it will take while longer to recover from that, but both are still in for the long haul so this is a great time to stockpile them both cheaply.

-MarkM-
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming altcoins on: December 20, 2016, 08:08:38 AM

The Galactic Milieu uses many different coins, and involves scales from individual characters all the way up to entire planetary civilisations, interstellar travel, and intergalactic mining.

We had largely been using Open Transactions and the Cyclos open source banking systems, but recently we began to also implement some of our currencies on the Horizon (NHZ) platform.

-MarkM-
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GPL] Gold Pressed Latinum 2.7.3 on: December 18, 2016, 06:38:47 AM
I can change PoS reward from 5% to 10% and minimum stake time from 365 days to 180, if you wish.

Oh come on, please don't screw up this coin, investors have invested based on its being so slow to multiply and so rare!

If you increase how many get minted you devalue all the investments everyone has already done!


-MarkM-

If someone invest in GPL he get 10% instead of 5%. If stake will be so rare (one time per year) it is almost no PoS protection from 51% PoW attack.

Well how about leaving it at 5% per year but increasing how often it happens? Though having to leave it a whole year before it staked was kind of unique feature, so that only people serious about squirreling away GPL long term would earn any stake...

-MarkM-
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GPL] Gold Pressed Latinum 2.7.3 on: December 18, 2016, 04:34:23 AM
I can change PoS reward from 5% to 10% and minimum stake time from 365 days to 180, if you wish.

Oh come on, please don't screw up this coin, investors have invested based on its being so slow to multiply and so rare!

If you increase how many get minted you devalue all the investments everyone has already done!


-MarkM-
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: December 18, 2016, 04:03:28 AM
Since it does not seem possible to create currencies right now, the "big seven" Galactic Milieu currencies GMC and GRF have been implemented as assets, asset numbers 2522928763821792692 (HZGMC) and 13567116276987908553 (HZGRF) respectively.

The issuing accounts created 21,000,000 of the coins, but any that remain in the issuing account do not count, they exist just so that if ALL the coins ever DID get moved onto the Horizon platform the platform is ready to handle them. The coins though actually resided on the Digitalis Open Transactions server, and only the number moved away from these issuing accounts on the Horizon platform were actually relocated onto the Horizon platform, the rest still reside elsewhere. (Currently just back on the Digitalis server, but some might eventually also be sent to other platforms such as BURST etc.)

-MarkM-
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: December 18, 2016, 03:29:22 AM
So why does Horizon reject all names one tries to give for a new currency?

I managed to create one currency fine, then on the second one somehow it said name in use, but it turned out that it had created the currency so maybe somehow I hit the create button twice or something; but from then on I have not been able to create any currencies, as no matter what name I try to give it it claims the name is already used...

I mentioned this earlier but so far no one seems to have any idea how this could happen...

-MarkM-


That's kinda strange. Was it possible that it was a problem about browser cache and did you try again after removing the cache?

I tried with an entirely separate computer, no luck.

-MarkM-
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: December 14, 2016, 08:38:56 AM

The fact that it is low right now just means it might not be the coin to be selling right now, maybe now is more a time to be buying.

Even if you diversify into several coins, there are times when they all are low at once, and with the holiday season coming up quite likely a lot of people are trying to find some coins to sell to raise funds for the holidays. You should probably expect this to be a bad time of year to sell most altcoins most years.

Consider buying coins for holiday gifts instead of selling them to buy holiday gifts...

-MarkM-
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: December 14, 2016, 07:40:49 AM
Since some people still do not really understand the Galactic Milieu project that all these coins and assets interact withgin, I made an explanatory post at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616394.msg17178364#msg17178364

-MarkM-


Is it true that the HORIZON devs all have abandoned this project like the gentleman is saying above? Is there still any value in HORIZON to invest in this coin or is it better to wait for any further news or updates? Is there a HORIZON community at all? I am new to this coin thanks in advance.

If the platform is "abandoned" all the better for Galactic Milieu purposes, since that means the native tokens will be dirt cheap which will mean the transaction fees for using the platform will be low.

Running one's assets on BURST or NXT for example, or on ETC or ETH or whatever, would probably be more costly.

If the devs were scammers just making yet another platform as yet another pump and dump too bad for them, if the code works, as the influx of assets and users will revitalise the platform and they will miss out having dumped all their coins... Wink

(In case you do not know me, I helped create DeVCoin and GRouPcoin and of course the "big seven" galactic currencies from way back when they started as bitcoin programs with the -testnet switch changed to make them run the nation or corp's own currency instead of bitcoin's testnet. So I dunno if the platform can be considered abandoned as long as I have some use for it...)

-MarkM-
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [I0C] I0coin - The Best Choice In Digital Currency on: December 14, 2016, 07:24:31 AM
Since some people still do not really understand the Galactic Milieu project that all these coins and assets interact within, I made an explanatory post at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616394.msg17178364#msg17178364

-MarkM-
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: December 14, 2016, 07:23:21 AM
Since some people still do not really understand the Galactic Milieu project that all these coins and assets interact within, I made an explanatory post at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616394.msg17178364#msg17178364

-MarkM-
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: December 12, 2016, 11:24:41 AM
Many years ago the "big seven" Galactic Milieu currencies figured that even with merged mining it might not be feasible to secure a blockchain, so tghey migrated to Open Transactions instead, leaving I0Coin, IXCoin, DeVCoin and GRouPcoin as blockchains to serve as weathervanes to find out whether it might in fact be feasible, with merged mining, to secure blockchains.

If the merged mined coins are in fact finding that securing blockchains is not tenable maybe it is time for them to seriously consider also moving to a "less ridiculously expensive to secure" platform?

-MarkM-


What would you suggest?  What can be as secure as massive hash while also cheap?

~CfA~

Well nowadays instead of migrating to Open Transactions I was thinking maybe migrate to HORIZON (NHZ) or BURST or NXT or something like that.

Or heck maybe to all three! Smiley

-MarkM-
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: December 12, 2016, 01:49:46 AM
Many years ago the "big seven" Galactic Milieu currencies figured that even with merged mining it might not be feasible to secure a blockchain, so tghey migrated to Open Transactions instead, leaving I0Coin, IXCoin, DeVCoin and GRouPcoin as blockchains to serve as weathervanes to find out whether it might in fact be feasible, with merged mining, to secure blockchains.

If the merged mined coins are in fact finding that securing blockchains is not tenable maybe it is time for them to seriously consider also moving to a "less ridiculously expensive to secure" platform?

-MarkM-
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: December 11, 2016, 01:50:27 AM
I didn't have the time to read everything in depth, but do you really think it may have an effect on DVC? (actual question, I don't know at all)

There is certainly a lot of potential to affect DVC prices, but a lot does depend on policies.

A really big factor is the huge amount of debt that is denominated in DeVCoins. Now that the "official" value of DeVCoins based on actual trade on exchanges has dropped from about 3 satoshis to about a third of a satoshi thanks to no longer having a DVC/BTC market and using DVC/CNY and DVC/LTC markets instead, all that debt has dropped in value massively. But, that also has massively increased interest in paying off those debts fast while DVC to pay them with is dirt cheap.

The thing is, the debt is massive, it uses DVC as a "unit of account" without thinking about how many DVC actually exist, so the total debt is many many times as much as all the DeVCoins that currently exist, heck it is more than WILL exist for decades.

That though is why policy has been to accept payment of those debts using other currencies, based on the "current rates" file found at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/latestrates.inc

If lenders actually insisted that debts only be repaid using actual DeVCoins, wow that would put insane pressure on DVC prices! Smiley

-MarkM-
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: December 10, 2016, 08:17:33 AM
Two of the computers right here in my computer-room run diamond and are on the same localnet and specify each other with addnode in their startup scripts.

Yet one of them - not the staking one - was up to date with the primary block-explorer and had 31 peers, the other one - te one that was staking - was down to only three peers and a long way back in time.

I think I had already tried restarting it with no blocks so it could get a clean copy of the chain.

I have now shut both down, copied ~/.diamond from the one that was up to date with the primary block-explorer to the staking machine, put the stake wallet back in place and restarted both. Hopefully that will fix it but gosh knows how it broke in the first place.

Meanwhile my third party server out on the net is still not up to date with the block explorer and claims to be seeing a constant stream of bad stake attempts coming in, yet it has 31 peers that is why I thought the chain must have forked, since 31 peers that between them all cannot seem to catch up to the chain seemed kind of unlikely unless a lot of nodes are out of synch...

BY THE WAY, I seem to have forgotten to ANNOUNCE here the asset I have created on the Horizon (NHZ) platform, its name is HZDIA, its asset ID is 15869904380337942274 and I have a little info page about it at http://makemoney.knotwork.com/horizon/assets/hzdia/ and of course Diamond (DMD) is its major holding...

-MarkM-
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: December 10, 2016, 07:29:26 AM
So why does Horizon reject all names one tries to give for a new currency?

I managed to create one currency fine, then on the second one somehow it said name in use, but it turned out that it had created the currency so maybe somehow I hit the create button twice or something; but from then on I have not been able to create any currencies, as no matter what name I try to give it it claims the name is already used...

I mentioned this earlier but so far no one seems to have any idea how this could happen...

-MarkM-
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: December 10, 2016, 07:22:12 AM
The blockchain seems to have forked again.

I even re-started some of my nodes to see if they would get back in synch but they all seem to be getting different blockchains somehow...

-MarkM-
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