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Posters, any input for moneyt's question? Books, now's a time to make a pitch.
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Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.
You ignored my question. I will ask it again : How do you know how many employees Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ? People here are following your advices and ratings and so you should be responsible and back up your claims.If Anonibet needs extra man power to process manual withdrawals, manage risk and set up lines (as you claimed in an earlier post), while we have invested in a state of the art proprietary software that does that automatically with 0 employees, do we need to get discredit for that ? DirectBet- You are very dishonest and I don't trust you at all. You will post any confidential information that you have on a player if the player disagrees with you. I've never seen another sportsbook post emails or player's wagers without approval of the player. Many of your posts are blatant lies or distortions. I'd appreciate if we can take further arguments to your thread. This thread is not for one book to bash another book. Let the posters discredit books if they feel the need. |
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DirectBet- You are very dishonest and I don't trust you at all. You will post any confidential information that you have on a player if the player disagrees with you. I've never seen another sportsbook post emails or player's wagers without approval of the player. Many of your posts are blatant lies or distortions.
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Casinobitcoin raised from C+ to B-.
Casinobitcoin had the top rating for a book in business less than 1 year. Casinobitcoin has now met the criteria for an upgrade. the next 6 months to build the largest and best Bitcoin Gaming network around.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money  Read their June report. Yes I read the reports and yes they earned in June, but you are misleading your followers by publishing incomplete information. Overall since inception their Sportsbook lost 70 BTC, and that number is much higher once you add up the operational expenses and salaries, especially if they have many employees as you claim.
Please explain why you are upgrading the rating of a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Casinobitcoin was able to survive early losses. That's a great sign for a sportsbook as well as any other business. Many businesses aren't able to survive early losses and go under. |
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June expenses include the following (further breakout is later in this document, as well
as full P&L located in the appendix)
1.09 BTC on advertising
6.3 BTC on player comps
14.3538 BTC on contractor development including spending on improved security measures
1.91 BTC in hosting expenses
1 BTC in Havelock expenses
5.3364 BTC in other expenses including our 3rd party bookmaker and seo costs.
For a total: 29.9961 BTC in expenses.
The remaining earnings of 22.7139 will be paid out in a dividend of 76 satoshi per Havelock unit. |
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Hi CBCT. Upgrade was done a while ago.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Did you read the report? Look at June. Yes I read the reports and yes they earned in June, but you are misleading your followers by publishing incomplete information. Overall since inception their Sportsbook lost 70 BTC, and that number is much higher once you add up the operational expenses and salaries, especially if they have many employees as you claim.
Please explain why you are upgrading the rating of a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Read the June report again. You don't seem to understand it. |
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Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.
How do you know ? Have you met them in person ?? How many employees do they have ? How many employees are on your staff? I would guess that you are a two man operation. It's not a bad thing as long as you are paying players but the top books are expanding at a higher rate. They seem to engulf the smaller books over time. |
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DirectBet- What is the size of your staff? Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs. Anonibet shelled out the most money for World Cup contests followed by Nitrogen. The top 3 books are good books.
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DirectBet - Here's some more on Casinibicoin June expenses include the following (further breakout is later in this document, as well
as full P&L located in the appendix)
1.09 BTC on advertising
6.3 BTC on player comps
14.3538 BTC on contractor development including spending on improved security measures
1.91 BTC in hosting expenses
1 BTC in Havelock expenses
5.3364 BTC in other expenses including our 3rd party bookmaker and seo costs.
For a total: 29.9961 BTC in expenses.
The remaining earnings of 22.7139 will be paid out in a dividend of 76 satoshi per Havelock unit |
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Hi Peeps and thanks for upgrading us to a B. Boxing isn't like Soccer, which has 3-way lines. In boxing if you bet on a side and the result is a DRAW, you get your money back. The ridiculous +2900 that Cloudbet has listed is if you want to bet the DRAW, in which you would lose in the event a side wins. Cheers! CBCT- With the odds that you have posted you are comparing a 2 way line to a 3 way line.
There is 2 and 3 way betting in boxing 1x2 = 3 way betting although most of the time books only use two way betting with a draw offered separately. http://www.odds1x2.com/Boxing/International/Odds/s_-alvarez-vs-erislandy-lara/ |
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DirectBet- How many employees do you have?
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What started out as a 2 man operation a year ago has now grown into a well run skunkworks
team that includes Support Personnel, Developers, Testers, and Marketing resources. While this
growth has resulted in small, gradual increases in our expenses, we believe that the work these
folks are doing daily will result in a better CasinoBitco.in product and brand. |
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Hi CBCT. Upgrade was done a while ago.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Did you read the report? Look at June. Today CasinoBitco.in reports its operationsal report for June 2014. Despite being one of the
slower months of the year between March Madness and the start of NFL season, June was an
exciting one for CasinoBitco.in, with excellent progress in many critical areas where we’ve
underperformed in past months. We are proud to report revenues of 52.71 BTC across all the
CasinoBitco.in properties.
The highlight of the month has certainly been the action of the World Cup where we’ve been able
to capitalize on our new thirdparty odds provider to offer excellent liquid markets with the best
limits & vig for our players while also limiting our downside risk!
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Casinobitcoin raised from C+ to B-.
Casinobitcoin had the top rating for a book in business less than 1 year. Casinobitcoin has now met the criteria for an upgrade. the next 6 months to build the largest and best Bitcoin Gaming network around.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Read their June report. Today CasinoBitco.in reports its operationsal report for June 2014. Despite being one of the
slower months of the year between March Madness and the start of NFL season, June was an
exciting one for CasinoBitco.in, with excellent progress in many critical areas where we’ve
underperformed in past months. We are proud to report revenues of 52.71 BTC across all the
CasinoBitco.in properties.
The highlight of the month has certainly been the action of the World Cup where we’ve been able
to capitalize on our new thirdparty odds provider to offer excellent liquid markets with the best
limits & vig for our players while also limiting our downside risk!
What started out as a 2 man operation a year ago has now grown into a well run skunkworks
team that includes Support Personnel, Developers, Testers, and Marketing resources. While this
growth has resulted in small, gradual increases in our expenses, we believe that the work these
folks are doing daily will result in a better CasinoBitco.in product and brand. June expenses include the following (further breakout is later in this document, as well
as full P&L located in the appendix)
1.09 BTC on advertising
6.3 BTC on player comps
14.3538 BTC on contractor development including spending on improved security measures
1.91 BTC in hosting expenses
1 BTC in Havelock expenses
5.3364 BTC in other expenses including our 3rd party bookmaker and seo costs.
For a total: 29.9961 BTC in expenses.
The remaining earnings of 22.7139 will be paid out in a dividend of 76 satoshi per Havelock unit |
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Hi Peeps and thanks for upgrading us to a B. Boxing isn't like Soccer, which has 3-way lines. In boxing if you bet on a side and the result is a DRAW, you get your money back. The ridiculous +2900 that Cloudbet has listed is if you want to bet the DRAW, in which you would lose in the event a side wins. Cheers! CBCT- With the odds that you have posted you are comparing a 2 way line to a 3 way line.
Looks like I'm going to argue with all the books today  http://www.odds1x2.com/Boxing/International/Odds/s_-alvarez-vs-erislandy-lara/ |
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CBCT- With the odds that you have posted you are comparing a 2 way line to a 3 way line.
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Reminder- This is a players thread although books are free to post. We want information from books but do not want a book to turn this into a book vs. book war. Please make posts pertaining to your own book. The posters can compare and bash books.
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Hi CBCT. Upgrade was done a while ago. Check the thread and feel free to post anything that's new with you guys. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1120Top 3 "A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013) I know that DirectBet has turned this to a ratings thread with his poll but you may want to take your posts to the ratings thread if you want me to reply more. Thanks |
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I haven't used Directbet (I usually use casinobitcoin or betcoinsports) but I've been checking up on this thread to see about using them in the future and from what I've seen DB didn't do anything wrong in regards to ts11111's bet. Isn't it well known that transfers from coinbase can be delayed? Looking at all the evidence I can't see anything that shows DB did anything wrong here, they clearly showed when the transfer was actually received which was 7 minutes later. Considering the way in which they operate (no deposits) I probably wouldn't use them for live bets but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to use them for betting in advance.
As far as peepsplace is concerned, I'm sorry but I just can't trust a poster from a site who solicits ad revenue from books and then rates/promotes them. Also the emails from them look suspicious as well. Why would you charge all other books 2 BTC a month yet you offered DB 1 BTC a month, something doesn't seem right.
Directbet was 1 BTC + 1% commission on volume. I realize that you don't know me from Adam but I've owned a couple of cash gambling websites, turned down lots of advertisers, taken banners down voluntarily forfeiting money when it looked like they were having problems and I paid players from my own pocket that were stiffed by BetOnSports because they had a banner up at my forum. The BoS stiff job cost me some good coin. To my knowledge, no other forum has ever paid players that were stiffed by an advertiser. If you have so much faith in your advertisers, will you cover any problems arising from Cloudbet, Anonibet, and Nitrogen? And why do you post as Peeps Place if you don't run it? How are you affiliated with them? I've been posting at peepsplace since 2003. I'm a forum junkie. I also post at other cash forums such as SBR, EOG, RX, MW. If you have a disagreement with the ratings, then please tell me the book and why. My disagreement is with a poster with the same name as a site who solicits ad revenue from books, looks to be bashing a book just because they decided not to place ads on that site. I've seen issues with Anonibet such as this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672929.0 which is considerably more than ts11111's wager. Will peepsplace cover his winnings if Anonibet doesn't? I understand why you think the ratings are biased and I would too. I never bashed DirectBet because they didn't pay to advertise. DirectBet went into the thread that I started for the ratings and bashed me for a week straight. I just returned volley. Almost all of what he says is untrue. |
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