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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me. The link to my profile page... I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously. If the shoe fits, wear it. You are the one who somehow managed to imply that the coronavirus outbreak was the fault of Austrians and/or Germans, by a nonsensical direct analogy to completely irrelevant historical events. I object to that. Don’t you wax self-righteous toward me, now—especially not when my initial response showed insight into German and Austrian post-WWII cultural issues, instead of simply invoking Godwin’s Law and calling you a troll. I have been trying to get you guys together, and it has not been successful, so far:  Sorry, we're already through the divorce, but the (ex-)wife keeps accusing that it was all my fault. Girls...  |
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You are the one who somehow managed to imply...
I see...
That's it..
I'm calling china and tellin them that it's actually germany/austria's fault..
Also to rename it the hitler virus..
I hear some places are having trouble cremating the amount of dead bodies.. I will also suggest them to contact germany for their expertise on this subject..
They also must pay reparations to china for this.. Actually, every country now owes china reparations just because..
Can be payed in the form of consensual annexation by china..
 EDIT: Thanks eddie, i'll take this laugh with me to hodlsleep (c). Good night at $5.375 |
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Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me. The link to my profile page... I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously. EDIT: Forgot about the trolling, sorry nullius (half of the introduction is sufficient for a good description of your posting style in our tittle discussion) |
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Austria as of today (red means quarantined). Can you see where this will be going to, already? Switzerland, Germany, France, Spain... From Italy to half of Europe. Within a few weeks. Buckle up!  |
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Edit: anyone selling Bitcoin now will regret that heavily.
I don't see selling now as much as a problem as selling later. Economy will take a dive, so will the stock market, and the fed (and counterparts, all around the world) will print near endless amounts of money. Means that sooner or later many people would sell bitcoin to compensate for income losses and devaluation. I think of early adopters (hoarders, not quite the same as hodlers), having the best investment returns, but also weak hands, or let's say people in conditions offending their living standards by recession. While it's certainly a good strategy to hodl, i don't know if buying now is as good, mid to long -term wise. I plan to buy bitcoin, preferably at the dips, but i will also save a fair amount of fiat to buy later, at even lower prices. That $3k capitulation/bottom last year may be a threshold worth holding on to. I mean from the top down, i don't think we'll be getting lower, speaking daily averages. (edited some stuff to be less mistaken, hopefully  ) |
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These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.
There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.
The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.
This, plus reaching "recovered" state takes more days from onset of symptoms (when they are usually tested shortly after) than "death" state. So "recovered" is behind a bit when compared to deaths at the same time. Still, two negative tests are required to count a case as recovered, so death rate may be even a bit less in the end. |
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I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated. No, I get it all too well. That is why I called you out on it. You believe i'm a bear because ONE btctalk member said so? C'mon I admit that I read what Lambie said with a strong bias against you, due to your having just engaged in almost comically stereotypical national-guilt nonsense, and then defended it with nothing more than (0) calling me a troll, and (1) saying that I didn’t get it. (And you are still defending that analogy...) If you’re not a bear, then I (very narrowly) apologize for having misjudged you on that particular point. My mistake. I will watch your posts more carefully before saying such things. Maybe you're just as wrong on that as with the rest you're trying to project onto me? As the only person on this forum on the Internet who has been accused of being both Hitler ( literally, Adolf Hitler himself) and a Mossad agent (yup, that’s (((me)))), I think I can safely say that it is you who is projecting with anything about not getting it. Really? See, austrian polititcs just willingly downplayed icelands travel warning for a well known austrian ski resort, after a group of icelandics returned home sick, tested positive for Covid19. They said the group must have got infected on munich airport before flying home (remember incubation time). This was two or three weeks ago, even the national media didn't report on that. Two more weeks of apres-ski partying in overcrowded bars, with tourists from all over europe, until they quarantined the area. Just not to risk the ski season and reputation of the resorts. Now they are totally fucked, btw. and it turned out that this resort was a central hub for spreading SARS-CoV-2 for weeks, with every responsible person knowing what was going on in Italy at the time. "Italy is not Tyrol", they said. Two days ago the major of the village in Tyrol, where the icelanders were skiing, said in an interview "we did everything right". So only for the sake of understanding the comparison, see the appearance of Covid19 in most parts of Europe as an "Export" of Austria. Now the other part: Adolf was a promising austrian artist (painter) when he was young. He applied at the university of arts in vienna, but his portfolio didn't include enough drawings of heads, as the auditor wrote in his notes. This was the start of young hitler turning from a bohemian artist into a frustrated working class member, who got caught by antisemitic speech and decided to engange in politics. Now, for the sake of the comparison i drew, are you willing to accept that many cases of Covid19 in Europe AND the misery that hitler brought to Europe BOTH were caused by a single bad decision of an austrian principal, in both cases. That's what is behind my comparison. Nothing more. Accept it, refuse it, but if you just didn't understand it, don't assume you did. I refuse to believe you knew all the background that stood behind that single comparison, at the time i made it (or you misjudged it). Now, back on topic please, i didn't continue WO's Covid discussion in the Coronavirus Outbreak thread just to see it getting cooked up in WO again. I hope my limited, non-native english did not create more room for misunderstanding than i already created by said comparison. |
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[— many interesting corrections by Lambie Slayer; read the whole thing —] The mind of a bear is quite interesting. You are arguing with someone who drew an analogy likening the coronavirus to Hitler, as a setup for somehow pinning this on Germans and Austrians. Do not expect logic. * OutOfMemory rates logic a STRONG SELL [/quote] [/quote] I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated. What i don't see is the logic in your argumentation HERE. It's real apples and bananas this time. Pinning... whut? HODL!
What else?!  You believe i'm a bear because ONE btctalk member said so? C'mon Maybe you're just as wrong on that as with the rest you're trying to project onto me? |
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That account liked a post of me a short time back 😂 you should totally set up a threesome Can I still watch? I you do, make a video for the rest of us. EDIT: Only if the hot chick doesn't finally turn out to be a bearded, sweating, smelly altcoin shiller  |
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you should totally set up a threesome
#nohomo |
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Along the main routes of traffic. The environment numbers are maybe only a result of the seasonal changes. One of the main spreading factors seems to be indoor location, with preferably many persons, close together, in a high frequency.
Airports, shopping malls, concerts, clubs, subway, bars, ronald mc. arkward and so on. A reproduction value of R=1.4 is enough to let this thing explode. Excellent data you bring up. I have nothing to controvert it so I resort to obfuscating with "seems to be" and "maybe" statements.
Do you think i would assume that everything i learned about Covid is always correct? I don't. So you can't blame me for precise communication in these matters. You forgot, that on the peak of this pandemic, many people will likely be sick AT ONCE, more or less serious, and can't go to work for a certain time. It's exponential, baby. That's why you gotta slow it down, preferably with the least damage (generally speaking). You seem to assume only the sick and old are the problem, but reality never is that simple. There are a lot of other factors.
Speaking of simple: Simple, wide ranging solutions in complex environments are most likely failing to achieve something specifically wanted. On the downside, they tend to create new problems, sometimes many. I cant deny locking down old and sick only would save millions by avoiding a severe global depression. But I need to justify my fears to massage my ego. It would be a blow to my ego to think I was unduly concerned about doom porn. So Ill just discuss how complicated things are and throw a few truisms in to fluff up the word count.
Speaking of ego... You truly think you can read between lines, being always correct? A little over confident, maybe? The mind of a bear is quite interesting. Really, i don't know.... But that sounds like too much blow for me now  |
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Its already peaked in Asia, it will soon peak in the West. We are in the late stages, not the early stages.
Asia? You mean China. And mainly because of the strict stop. See their industry boot up again, while yours will be tanking. Covbull-19 only gains serious traction in specific climate circumstances. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308"Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), caused by SARS-CoV-2, has established significant community spread in cities and regions along a narrow east west distribution roughly along the 30-50o N’ corridor at consistently similar weather patterns consisting of average temperatures of 5-11oC, combined with low specific (3-6 g/kg) and absolute humidity (4-7 g/m3). There has been a lack of significant community establishment in expected locations that are based only on population proximity and extensive population interaction through travel." Along the main routes of traffic. The environment numbers are maybe only a result of the seasonal changes. One of the main spreading factors seems to be indoor location, with preferably many persons, close together, in a high frequency. Airports, shopping malls, concerts, clubs, subway, bars, ronald mc. arkward and so on. A reproduction value of R0=1.4 is enough to let this thing explode. New York and Washington state will likely be the last major hot spots to peak. Then its all downhill. Of course the fear mongers wont come back and apologize, they never do.
Ill be focusing my efforts on anyone trying to kick Hodlers while they are down by spreading doom and gloom.
Also Ill be focusing on anyone advocating to lock society down and killing millions with a global depression when we could more safely lock down the old and sick while the rest of society flourishes.
You forgot, that on the peak of this pandemic, many people will likely be sick AT ONCE, more or less serious, and can't go to work for a certain time. It's exponential, baby. That's why you gotta slow it down, preferably with the least damage (generally speaking). You seem to assume only the sick and old are the problem, but reality never is that simple. There are a lot of other factors. Speaking of simple: Simple, wide ranging solutions in complex environments are most likely failing to achieve something specifically wanted. On the downside, they tend to create new problems, sometimes many. anybody up for a debart?
Yes, yes, yes! Yeeeesssssssss!!! |
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This thing is being hyped up like nothing before in modern history. Hysteria can only last so long before people get desensitized to it. I became desensitized early, but others will trend in my direction soon enough.  Good eve again Mylady fell asleep early See, i'm far from hysteric, and what i have seen by the numbers until today, is - expressed nicely - rather unpleasant. The world is at an early stage of a pandemic and Covid it may surpass the flu in lethality and maybe even case numbers. Still, there are quite some people that seem to think that the flu is not enough. Or that an additional flu is not too much. Either way, there's not only black and white, LS. There are still a lot of calm people, still some are concerned. Why rather don't you shift your focus to them? |
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Better to force all vulnerable people to stay at home and let society function as normal otherwise.
... so everyone can visit and contaminate their favorite elder. Forget it. This "quarantine the weak and old"-idea is just shortsighted AF. Take two minutes and think about the consequences, all of you. That's a lot of cons for an unreal goal this attempt should achieve. I'm tired, but almost no more sickness. The missus is craving for a movie night in the home theater (aka living room). See you later, when i'm actually will try to stay more on WO topic. Observing $5446. No more nosedives please, BTC |
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facemask deepthroat would be a thing, i guess... |
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skinny AF is a bit of an overstatement for those of us with the misfortune to have been born earlier, but no doubt it is better
watched a guy die the other day, huge flabby ass white guy, crumpled in place, folks were doing CPR and his fat was rolling in waves
I went home and got on the fucking bike thing
Yes, i was unprecise with this statement. There are mainly only a few causes for obesity. The main is gut bacterial flora*. Also, there are some reasons for this. Getting breastfeeded as a baby by obese mother, certain antibiotics in higher doses, and long term lack of body motion combined with high energy food. Research is pretty new on that topic. At least the stigma of the "lazy fat dude eats a whole pig each day" is slowly dying (good!). Nobody deserves to be harassed because of body shape or weight. There was a popular dude who proved that nutrition doesn't matter as much. He only ate pizza each day (not fillippone!) but had a daily exercise routine and didn't gain weight. The thing with the pizza is that the olive oil and yeast is good for your colon and digestion, so if you don't flood the hot disc with salami, all is well. *There was a lab experiment with mice, a few years ago. They took obese and skinny mice, exchanged their gut bacteria (stool transplant) and guess what: The flabby mice got skinny and vice versa. In severe cases of inflamed colon, gut bacteria is exchanged via flush and stool transplant, symptoms go away almost immediately. Even a high correlation to depression was found, based on gut bacterial flora analysis. You are making me feel guilty as I am baking my own pizza.
Quarantine doesn't rhyme with
Carbohydrates
But hey, we need some fun here!
Nooo I also bake my own pizza, including kneading and rolling dough. More than often. It's just that i can't eat a lot of it because of fructose malabsorption. My wife and kids are loving selfmade pizza. Tomato and wheat, as well as onion, garlic (all the good stuff) and also wine (almost crying) don't do good to me, including bloating, muscle pains and sleep attacks. I spare you the toilet part... Also, without pizza, you wouldn't be a real italian guy! |
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Dude, you're comparing apples with bananas here.
Do you even look at your own links?
The "mystery" of higher death figures of italy vs. south corea is already solved.
Also, you can't compare yearly flu data with a few months of Covid data.
There is a huge amount of common sense missing in your posts.
That was my last try to discuss this with you.
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car.bo.hy.drates Low income, cheap food. When you live of mainly fat and protein you actually get skinny af. Not as skinny as vegans, but almost only muscle tissue instead of body fat. EDIT: Your farts and shit will really stink, tho Better add in some vegetables as well. |
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I get really bad throat infections with flu-like symptoms a few times a year and they're very unpleasant for a few days to a week but as with the flu young/healthy people will likely get over it. It just seems to be mostly killing the already nearly-dead with underlying health conditions anyway and they're probably the ones that need to self-isolate unless it starts killing anyone else.
Yesterday, a 48 year old woman died with no known preconditions in self quarantine. I have read reports of deaths of formerly healthy doctors and nurses in wuhan, died of covid in their early 30's. Don't be too sure... Where from and what's the source? Also, I'm not sure of anything, but until people start dropping like flies I'll continue to believe it's probably over-hyped and one or two young people dying doesn't mean much or scare me. I know of two people who died of heart attacks in their 20's but that's a rare occurrence and there's usually something else going on with them for that to happen. There's always going to be outliers but that doesn't mean to say the entire world needs to panic like it is right now. From Austria. Source: National Newspapers. Exact cause of death to be examined, that's why it's not added to the Covid statistics yet. Complete BS. The fatality rate of people infected by influenza (aka "the flu") is 0,1%. Your numbers would mean Germany's population is only a few hundred thousands, because a few hundred people die because of the flu there each year. This winter only about 200 so far. Again: 1-2 out of of 1000 infected influenza cases die. Mainly people over 60 years of age. Covid fatality will likely be between 2% and 10%. "Just a flu"... |
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