the ironic thing about apple from the 80's was that it was counter-culture and spoke against the authority (that told you what to do and what not to)... take a look at this commercial about the book "1984." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwAapple basically told you to say "fuck the man," at least until it became the man. |
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yeah it sounds scammy. the seller would have access to the private key, even after the item is shipped. and why would anyone want to sell on ebay? you would get 85%-88% (after shipping and ebay/paypal taxes) of their value. im sure there would be a few people who are willing to do it, but i don't get what the point is.
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Anyone have a few dollars to spare? I need food. I have no cash since I lost this wallet.
you're that broke huh? time to get a new boyfriend.. but just make sure he aint no scrub. doesn't need to be a balla, just concerned that you are not eating well enough. or maybe he has to be a meth user, so you can finish the food that he can't. but really though, i hope you aren't starving for the holidays. don't you have parents back at home? worst case scenario, you resort to showing boobs to get the bills paid and food in the belly. not a great option, but not the worst either  Family is on the other side of the country. doesn't mean they can't wire you money to get some food. |
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Anyone have a few dollars to spare? I need food. I have no cash since I lost this wallet.
you're that broke huh? time to get a new boyfriend.. but just make sure he aint no scrub. doesn't need to be a balla, just concerned that you are not eating well enough. or maybe he has to be a meth user, so you can finish the food that he can't. but really though, i hope you aren't starving for the holidays. don't you have parents back at home? worst case scenario, you resort to showing boobs to get the bills paid and food in the belly. not a great option, but not the worst either |
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extremely unlikely i'd say. when people measure btc's increase in terms of ratios, they think "it's only 10x of what it currently is." but people seem to forget that 10x of where we currently are.. is a really big market cap. it means at least 100 billion more dollars need to enter the market.
ok But what's 100b$ for a payment tool the size of a planet ? what does that matter? the guy think it will happen in 3 months or so. bitcoin is much more risky than any other asset or investment. many people are standing by the sidelines waiting to see what happens. |
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knowing apple, they'll probably register the "iBitcoin" trademark and then sue the bitcoin foundation for copyright infringement. then they will come out with some sappy commercial with instrumental music, and then at the end you'll see on your tv "this changes everything." then in a few years, they will come out with a revolutionary payment system that complements iBitcoin, which is called iScrewyouover
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extremely unlikely i'd say. when people measure btc's increase in terms of ratios, they think "it's only 10x of what it currently is." but people seem to forget that 10x of where we currently are.. is a really big market cap. it means at least 100 billion more dollars need to enter the market.
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flat-tax also increase inequalities:
1000$ a month with a 20% tax: you already have difficulty to pay for your food, goods, appartment
10000$ a month with a 20% tax: you have no difficulty to live
In some countries, you have a progressive system:
poor : no tax
lower class: small percentage
midle : normal
high: high percentage
So everyone can live without being strangled.
Take a look at poverty rate in some liberal countries with the flat-tax.
well, if loopholes and tax havens are stopped, that would make it a different story. there's no point in taxing people who make under 20k though, they are just going to need government assistance. |
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apple is anti-anything that does not make them money
this is what i was about to say. maybe they were planning on coming out with "iMoney" |
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oh man, you know you've really hit the mainstream when the simpsons makes a joke about you. i'd say we are in the early stages of entering the mainstream, but we are definitely there.
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whoa, it takes some courage to come out of the closet as a socialist on this forum. call me crazy, but for me.. following any extremist ideology never works. maybe voluntaryism works for me.
Is Atlas Shrugged worth reading? I always hear polar opposite opinions on it.
Its a stupidly long book, that, if it was re-written well could be half the size and get the point over far better! Its a good little story, but doesn't prove anything other than similar types of people like to stick together! I used to consider Libertarianism as a good ideology, but slowly realized that it was just as ideologically impossible as socialism. What the real world system that we have does, which is better, is that it creates a number of levels of trades for each trade, through adding various levels of bureaucracy. The result is that one trade which would only be of benefit to two people under libertarianism, actually benefits 10+ people under whatever you want to call what we have in the real world. This is a very simplistic example, and to break down a real world example to prove it would take many 1000s or words - maybe even a book the size of Atlas Shrugged! ;-) yep, that was the gist of what i was saying. i can't follow anarchism as an ideology because it's too extreme for me, and socialism... kinda sucks. my conclusion is just that people are fucked up, and they need to change (myself included). ideology is just a tool used by people. |
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Sold at 1200. Bought at 600. Doubled my bitcoins from 2 to 4. I wish I had more, but I'm not complaining.
congrats to you, you scored pretty big. i wish i had the balls to double up on my coins  |
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To be far superior, a currency would only need to have a feature that stopped the sudden drops that make holding on to it over the long haul such a scary prospect.
Can this new alt-coin also vacuum my floors and cook me dinner? That would make it the superior est. Sorry, just having fun with you  . But, isn't this impossible? You either legislate its value by fiat (and live with the problems of fiat money) or you let the free-market figure it out (with a series of booms and busts). If we all *know* the value will just go up and can't come down, then we'd all throw everything we have into it right? Then we'd have one big super bubble! I do marketing, where everything is possible. Software people work on code, where nothing new is possible until it's so well established in the marketplace that they have no hope of winning the argument. To maintain a stable, less volatile value, one must establish a track record and mechanism as clear and convincing proof of U.S. Dollar-like stability. How is that done? One mechanism is to create a foundation (like the Bitcoin Foundation) that gets a parallel mine large enough both to provide a reserve and to market the new currency. Mining difficulty (or reward amount) is adjusted daily, reduced only after there is an increase in price/demand. The Altcoin Foundation establishes a clear, realistic target price and sets buy orders 2% below that price, and sell orders 5% over it. This prevents those price spikes that draw in speculators and drive away those interested in a good long term investment. There are several other techniques, like adjusting the final mining quantity to match market demand automatically. Of course, most of these things have to be done when the altcoin is created, because they cannot be retrofit into the software after the fact. Have you read the Hunger Games? At the end of the 3rd book, the rebels overthrow the elite. The woman leading the rebels wants to have "just one more hunger games" where only the old elite and their children participate (and then the hunger games will be over, "we promise"). Katniss Everdeen shoots an arrow through her heart. dude, why did you have to spoil it for us?! now it's time to play the anger games, with you.. |
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funny that china's price is lagging behind other non-chinese exchanges... it was a complete flip from before the crash.
Most bearish thing about this recovery. But no too bearish. China lagged other parts of the rally too. China is ahead of Stamp. by about $3-4 dollars per BTC.. the gap has closed and it's fallen in line with the rest of the exchanges. |
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funny that china's price is lagging behind (or at a similar rate) other non-chinese exchanges... it was a complete flip from before the crash.
seems like china is not as big a driver for BTC now. then again, the chinese exchange is still by far the largest.
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i'm thinking the OP missed the gravy train and wants to make up for it now.
I am skeptic about Bitcoin as investment, in case you haven't noticed (Are skeptics welcome in this forum?) It seems I am not expressing myself clearly. When European countries junked their currencies for the Euro, each State took care to swap the old (soon to be worthless) currencies for Euros so that owners would not suffer any loss. Other countries did the same when they replaced hyperinflated currencies for new money. But there is no entity that would offer to do that service for Bitcoin, if ( OK, let's say it is onlly a possibility) and when it is replaced by something else. Sure, Bitcoin owners would want NuCoin to be just an evolution of Bitcoin, preserving its blockchains and hence the value of their coins; but why would the NuCoin community want to do that? why are you comparing bitcoin to currencies? there is no precedent for anything like bitcoins. i've yet to hear any solid reasons as to why nucoin or any other cryptocurrency could take BTC's place. if bitcoin becomes ubiquitous, there will be more room for another cryptocurrency, but you have not brought up any real reason why you think bitcoin can't succeed, and new cryptocurrency will take its place. |
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back at $900, it's soo finished guys. just sell off the remainder of your coins and call it a game. nazis have travelled from the 1940's to take bitcoin over.. run for the hills, or if you were smart enough, your bunkers in the hills!
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Can't say that i'm not happy but it bothers me how young and iliquid (not liquid?) the market is when one order can swing it like 12%
doesn't that mean that there's a lot more room for growth then? it is kind of unnerving how finicky btc can be. |
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Back to the moon!  fixed that for you. we fell off the moon and back into earth's orbit, and didn't quite like it there |
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man, this ride is so insane.. i'm not sure if most of our hearts can handle this. we're going to end up dying young from all the stress  |
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