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2581  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:54:00 AM
and let's not forget that the new testament, at the very least, was re-written to suit or "convert" romans.. and it wasn't written by "god" but only man who claimed himself to be god.

No, the bible wasn't written by Jesus; the several books that make up the "bible" were written through time, after his death. Then the books that were convenient to the church were chosen and put together, forming the bible we now know.

i didn't imply that jesus wrote the new testament. im saying human beings did, with their own "interpretation" of it.
2582  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:42:16 AM
The fact that we have DNA shows that there was some planning or "information" that took place to begin with.  In a way, information in our world and in our structure proves intelligence and a "designer."  So it is logical to think that there was a plan.  Without that the world might exist but we would not have intelligence at all.  

Don't you agree that, in the 4.5 billions of years that the Earth has existed, molecules could have had the time to assemble themselves on their own, through fortunate collisions of atoms? I mean, in that much time, all the possibilities can happen, and as soon as the first cell is formed in a random process and the most basic strand of RNA (precursor of DNA) is formed, replication and evolution would then kick in and make life as we know it appear and change really fast.

i think bitchick doesn't quite understand evolution very well.

I think evolutionists do not understand the intelligent design of the world very well. Wink

My point is that we do not see order come from chaos. That is not something that is observed in our world.  But we do see great signs of intelligence and planning in how everything operates and works together.  The fact that we are intelligent as humans proves we had to have had someone or "something" more intelligent program us to work the way we do.  It is just logical.  To have intelligence come from nothing is not observable in our world.  
What would have created the creator?  If intelligence doesn't come from nothing, then he couldn't exist without something creating him, and creating that.  Circular logic

Where does intelligence come from then?  Could it come from nothing?  Is that something we observe?  Hence my argument about the computer.  We can have a hunk of metal but with someone intelligent designing the software to make it run, it would do absolutely nothing.  Our bodies are far more complex than a computer.  Our brains more complex than any software design. But I am called illogical for saying that it took an intelligent designer to create us?  It is more logical from observation that there was someone intelligent that designed us.  That is all I am saying.
At first, the only intelligence we had was primitive instincts: survive and reproduce.  As evolution advanced us, our brains became more and more complex, allowing us to gain more knowledge.

How is saying that there a omnipotent being that got bored and created a universe any more logical than the big bang?  One has all of science to back it up, one has... *cricket chirping*

and let's not forget that the new testament, at the very least, was re-written to suit or "convert" romans.. and it wasn't written by "god" but only man who claimed himself to be god.
2583  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 02:39:15 AM
i tried watching the sopranos but couldn't get into it. i realized it was produced in the early/mid 2000's since the episodes weren't in wdescreen, and i just kept thinking "wtf?"

i tried watching six feet under too. couldn't bare that show either.

I used to love Six Feet Under, but haven't seen it in many years.  That was Dexter's first big break (don't know his real name)..

michael c. hall. man, i watched six feet under knowing him as dexter.. so when he was getting butt rammed by his black bf, i was like why the fuck is dexter getting it up the ass.

Lol! Was he Keith, or was that his cop man crush?

yeah keith the cop guy.. who looks a bit like karl malone. man i remembered thinking.. "oh god no dexter, you just let your buthtole get violated."
2584  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
tuesdays are good.. fargo + dual survival. man, i watch almost 0 network tv.. except for thursdays (big bang theory, parks+rec and community).

I am going to check out Dual Survivor after the Clippers game tonight.

i was wrong actually, it's on wednesdays.. but there are sites where you can watch the older episodes. 3+ season of it.
2585  Economy / Speculation / Re: I give up on: April 30, 2014, 02:36:06 AM
patience is a virtue. it's been at this level for how long.. 2-3 months?
2586  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:33:53 AM
yeah the more i think about consciousness, the more i get confused.
2587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath? on: April 30, 2014, 02:28:01 AM
Once when I was a kid I went over to a freind's house.

He was shooting baby kittens with a bow and arrow.

I took the bow away from him, hit him with it and left.

I never went back there and would not speak to him at school.

My $.02.

Wink

hitting a kid like that.. you must be a sociopath!

i remember a kid who was in my same boy scout troop.. who microwaved his cat. that's fucked up.
2588  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:26:59 AM
I think evolutionists do not understand the intelligent design of the world very well. Wink

My point is that we do not see order come from chaos. That is not something that is observed in our world.  But we do see great signs of intelligence.  The fact that we are intelligent as humans proves we had to have had someone or "something" more intelligent program us to work the way we do.  It is just logical.  To have intelligence come from nothing is not observable in our world.  

The whole universe is a proof that order comes from chaos. At first there was the highly chaotic Big Bang, then chaotic galaxies formed, which gave birth to stars, which organized more complex matter, which made unchaotic planets, and so on Smiley

What can we observe scientifically that shows order from chaos?  A big bang could not have left the universe in an orderly state based on observable science.  Nothing we observe exploding leads to order and creation of anything new does it?  A "big bang" could not have led to human intelligence and the amazing design of our bodies.  There are just too many variables at play for everything to have happened by random chance.   The position of the earth in relation to the sun, water on the earth, the way our bodies work, etc.  There are just too many things that for them to have happened by chance it is mathematically impossible even adding the "millions and billions of years" to the problem.



as already stated, meteorology. or peruse this wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
2589  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath? on: April 30, 2014, 02:22:48 AM
I think most people probably have at least some sociopathic tendencies.

no. but an interesting thing is that most sociopaths don't go around broadcasting it, so i suspect that there were more than we are aware of.

Sociopaths are usually great at hiding their true feelings and can come across as really nice people, but that's how they rope their victims in. They soon change when they've got their claws into people though.

do you have a sociopath ex gf that ricked you into the anal probing, and you accidentally started liking it?
2590  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:21:16 AM
^ that's what i was going to say. in order to solve flawed logic, she is using.. flawed logic.
2591  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which anime do you like to watch? on: April 30, 2014, 02:19:16 AM
i only do naruto.. the story is culminating soon. the pace drags so slowly.
i stopped watching the anime a while ago, too many filers, I read the manga tho

Cool, Black Bullet is unknown to me, will take a look at it. Smiley

Thanks for sharing.

it's a nice anime just finished today

the recent fillers have been pretty good though. it's an arc that goes deeper into the kakashi/itachi/the wood style guy/minato etc. i forgot how funny younger naruto was. he's not nearly as funny now.
2592  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:15:10 AM
The fact that we have DNA shows that there was some planning or "information" that took place to begin with.  In a way, information in our world and in our structure proves intelligence and a "designer."  So it is logical to think that there was a plan.  Without that the world might exist but we would not have intelligence at all.  

Don't you agree that, in the 4.5 billions of years that the Earth has existed, molecules could have had the time to assemble themselves on their own, through fortunate collisions of atoms? I mean, in that much time, all the possibilities can happen, and as soon as the first cell is formed in a random process and the most basic strand of RNA (precursor of DNA) is formed, replication and evolution would then kick in and make life as we know it appear and change really fast.

i think bitchick doesn't quite understand evolution very well.

I think evolutionists do not understand the intelligent design of the world very well. Wink

My point is that we do not see order come from chaos. That is not something that is observed in our world.  But we do see great signs of intelligence and planning in how everything operates and works together.  The fact that we are intelligent as humans proves we had to have had someone or "something" more intelligent program us to work the way we do.  It is just logical.  To have intelligence come from nothing is not observable in our world.  

we do see order in chaos.. it's called chaos theory. it's the reason why you can have an approximation of what the weather will be in 3 days.
2593  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 02:00:01 AM
The fact that we have DNA shows that there was some planning or "information" that took place to begin with.  In a way, information in our world and in our structure proves intelligence and a "designer."  So it is logical to think that there was a plan.  Without that the world might exist but we would not have intelligence at all. 

Don't you agree that, in the 4.5 billions of years that the Earth has existed, molecules could have had the time to assemble themselves on their own, through fortunate collisions of atoms? I mean, in that much time, all the possibilities can happen, and as soon as the first cell is formed in a random process and the most basic strand of RNA (precursor of DNA) is formed, replication and evolution would then kick in and make life as we know it appear and change really fast.

i think bitchick doesn't quite understand evolution very well.
2594  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religion Poll on: April 30, 2014, 01:57:47 AM
getting order from chaos.. is chaos theory. it's the prevailing theory.. that there is even order in random things.
2595  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 01:54:05 AM
i tried watching the sopranos but couldn't get into it. i realized it was produced in the early/mid 2000's since the episodes weren't in wdescreen, and i just kept thinking "wtf?"

i tried watching six feet under too. couldn't bare that show either.

I used to love Six Feet Under, but haven't seen it in many years.  That was Dexter's first big break (don't know his real name)..

michael c. hall. man, i watched six feet under knowing him as dexter.. so when he was getting butt rammed by his black bf, i was like why the fuck is dexter getting it up the ass.
2596  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which anime do you like to watch? on: April 30, 2014, 01:41:55 AM
i only do naruto.. the story is culminating soon. the pace drags so slowly.
2597  Other / Off-topic / Re: Owning a Home or Renting on: April 30, 2014, 01:24:29 AM
i was always told that owning a home is a lot better then renting because then u can earn money and not lose money on the home. if you rent you throw that money away

opportunity costs. if you have money laying around, then you could invest it and earn more money.. instead of dropping it on a home that could crash at any moment.
2598  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 01:19:53 AM
i tried watching the sopranos but couldn't get into it. i realized it was produced in the early/mid 2000's since the episodes weren't in wdescreen, and i just kept thinking "wtf?"

i tried watching six feet under too. couldn't bare that show either.
2599  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 01:12:25 AM
tuesdays are good.. fargo + dual survival. man, i watch almost 0 network tv.. except for thursdays (big bang theory, parks+rec and community).
2600  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: April 30, 2014, 12:56:42 AM
everyone talks about sopranos and the wire.. but i couldn't get into them. at the time of their peaks, i wasn't that into cable tv yet.
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