~ Better to have an indicator of deleted posts per account. I suggested some time ago a report score, I have modified it a bit more to fit the needs. It's easy to manipulate the a thread, but for profiles such score can be far more accurate. I've just read your "report score" proposal and I like it. I would modify it in a way that only the signature are not shown if an user falls below the "bad posts" threshold, but the user is never automatically banned. Otherwise there could be too many false positives. The only problem would be "bump bots", because these do not even need signatures to earn money, but they also don't suffer if they're banned as they can open a Newbie account every time they please. Bump bots could be tackled in a better way with the "health score" mechanism. So maybe both could be introduced  I was considering this, I have to re-write the whole OP again because some things have changed since when I wrote it. For those bots, I suggested some time ago to have the deleted posts count (the posts you delete yourself) shown somewhere in the profile. When you reach a member those scores are not needed anymore, of course can help to point out accounts which have deleted all their post history. |
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Maybe I'm wrong but with this, as I'm halfway down my coffee cup but, a useless legendary with 3 merits let's say would have an instant advantage over a newbie who earns 200 Merits, just from the Merit count. Add 2030 activity and 28893 posts, again I'm not talking about anybody special...  and this guy would have an enormous score. Just that number of posts would offset about 1000 Merits.... Guess I'll give it a try later but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get some pretty interesting results with some persons I'm thinking about right now. LE Since I don't want to post in both topics again: Better to have an indicator of deleted posts per account. I suggested some time ago a report score, I have modified it a bit more to fit the needs. It's easy to manipulate the a thread, but for profiles such score can be far more accurate. Unfortunately, Bpib takes only into account posts that were deleted by mods, not posts that got trashed along the entire topic, so unless we can count that also in a way it wouldn't show the entire picture. Yeah but this Legendary, you are talking about has been longer on the forum so this is reflected in the score as the more activity and airdropped merit. I can probably remove the airdropped merit as the activity should be enough to support the "early adopters" or can have a smaller impact something like airdropped_merit/10 for example. All those posts removed with the trashed threads are a issue but I think the forum does not keep track on them so it is almost impossible to be counted. This is why I wrote in the OP that this is only for those of your posts reported to the mods and deleted. |
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I've updated OP and changed the concept a bit. Here is the formula for calculating your report score : report_score= (((activity*1,5)+(airdrop_merit*2)+(received_merit*10)+(post_count*0,5))/bad_reports); Everything below 10 should be considered as a not so good score and an indicator for a bad posting behavior. Everyone is free to test it and I would like to hear your opinion. |
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Better to have an indicator of deleted posts per account. I suggested some time ago a report score, I have modified it a bit more to fit the needs. It's easy to manipulate the a thread, but for profiles such score can be far more accurate. |
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I think should be for plagiarism, lets check your last comment : The thread is locked so i'm gonna post the links to the posts. You posted on Re: Which do you prefer, bank or crypto?
October 02, 2018, 10:35:04 PMbank and crypto have very different functions, because the Bank function is a place to save money so that our money is safe and for future savings, but crypto is where we invest our money to make our money grow very much in the future, with that function I must prefer crypto, because crypto is more profitable than bank. All the money i dont need, i invest in crypto. LInk to your post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034339.msg46443492#msg46443492The original is in the same locked thread : King Bounty posted on : Re: Which do you prefer, bank or crypto?
September 29, 2018, 04:47:42 PMbank and crypto have very different functions, because the Bank function is a place to save money so that our money is safe and for future savings, but crypto is where we invest our money to make our money grow very much in the future, with that function I must prefer crypto, because crypto is more profitable than bank. Link to his post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034339.msg46312731#msg46312731I just picked your last post. I guess if I do the same with the rest of your posts the result will be the same. 1Ban appeal?? I don't see it coming ... ~
So is there a Chance to get the Account back. Cant remember I did something wrong tbh. Was hard to receive the Merit for a new Member. Otherwise I think i will buy a account from russia to get accepted for translation and so on. With new account not possible. ^^
You need to read the rules /maybe it's already too late now/. The ban is PERSONAL, so creating or buying new account will lead to breaking of another rule, No ban evading! You going to loose the new account to, so just don't try to cheat anymore just leave the community quietly and everything will be fine. The duck that lays golden egg is dead for you... Sorry
Edited> [1] K0er just confirmed what I was suspecting. |
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The OP was just a question how to deal with such accounts but the situation here is a bit different, if you have seen the posts from Veleor , there are some cases of plagiarism.
I don't want innocent people to get banned but I want to set some border for those cases.
Some get banned for even less, some are pardoned maybe...
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Damn, I checked your post history, Now I know why it's your favorite crypto website.
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Do you think if we remove the sig. campaigns in general that those discussions will still go on?? No.
Well that's obviously the source of the issue here and removing signatures is pretty much the only way to stop this nonsense immediately. I often wonder if signature campaigns will ever be removed here. Theymos has mentioned it would be a last resort and one he'd be willing to do if it came to it, but it would kill of most of the activity/traffic here (not that I'm saying that's a bad thing). I'd love to see the data and charts in the drop of actual traffic and how many people would instantly leave if it does ever actually happen. It'd probably just go back to the sort of numbers we had pre-2013. Maybe much less. I suspect signature campaigns are the only thing even keeping a lot of the 'old timers' here (though there are still a lot who admirably never joined campaigns for whatever reason). I think there are a couple of other things we could do before it ever got to completely removing signatures though such as punishing badly run campaigns and maybe even removing signatures from all the lower ranks first rather than a blanket ban on everyone, but as long as you can get paid to post we're always going to have an issue with spam in one way or another, but I think we need to try find more ways of limiting it before the inevitable happens. I try to see the situation from a different perspective now, kind of What would Jesus theymos do?. Even if sig. campaigns are bad thing, they are a way to spread the word about cryptocurrencies in the developing countries. And we all know that there is no bad PR. As the "one friend introduced me to crypto" sounds really banal here, the reality is that more and more people are engaging with the cryptocurrencies and probably a small fraction of those shitposers actually can contribute to development of the crypto in those countries. I guess this is the reason not to remove the sig. campaigns. For me personally, I don't really care if I will wear paid signature or not as my posting behaviors did't change much before and after the I joined the ChipMixer campaign. Almost all the crypto I have now, I bought, and I don't use the forum as income or to support my family. It's just a hobby which I really like  |
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We've got topics that've been on for close to a year now, and such topics still ocuppy the front page of their various sections as users still contribute a thing or two to the discussions daily
Well your assessment may be correct only based on the fact that this thread is a meaningless/redundant one
Just wonder how can you discuss a topic on daily basis for over an year and still add some meaningful information to it without repeating it, if it's not a price/news related or following some current events, I see no point of topics with more than 10 pages, no one read the previous comments they just replaying to the OP or the last post. This often leads only to repeat something that was already said. Look in the Bitcoin Discussion, pick one of the threads with more then 10 pages are read the comments, I'm pretty sure you'll end up even with copy/pasting cases. People just pumping their post count for the sig. campaigns, even if they have noting to say. Do you think if we remove the sig. campaigns in general that those discussions will still go on?? No. |
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What are the "quite serious" forum problems that were resolved that you are referring to? You mean things like account farming or something else? Are they solved or just the incentives changed?
Think about it, the newbie signature campaign were causing a lot of spam because of the famed accounts and the 1 merit rule was a game changer for them. In addition, theymos was against such(any) restriction but at the end he surprised everyone and the impact was quite big. |
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Sadly, worked other way around for me...I was curious about mining, started reading about it, learned about modding bioses,
became part of altcoin mining community (dare to say, recognized one), made bioses that were downloaded thousands times, got 0 merit
then switched to your supposedly fail order of things, and got some
Well, I can say you are doing faaar better than many others here > Has received 91 merit 69 times, from 32 profiles Thanks to BPIP and Vod for the stats. I think when most of the forum problems are solved /the spam, bumping bots, account farmers, bounty/signature abusers, etc./ people will turn back to discussion stuff, and look away from Meta, but as long as there are problems /and we had quite serous ones solved lately/, the attention will be here. |
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Today many are disappointed with the new ranking rules, including myself. However, after I think about it, merit and ranking are not everything. Knowledge is more important than merit. With knowledge I will get more than merit. What about your opinion?
Is this right place to ask about opinion of merit ? Why should you disappointed for merit since your contribution is zero? I don't believe a good contributor can't earn merit. Yes, knowledge is more important than merit. But if you haven't contribute your knowledge then you are not going to earn merit even you make just post on meta. More important is contribute of your knowledge. And obviously merit will describe shortly how about your knowledge and how you are contributing on forum. So you can't underestimate merit as well. Your intention should contribute your best one, not for merit. Share with forum which is your best knowledge and try to help all how you can. His question was posted more then a month ago, and he is inactive for over a month now, just somebody bumped the thread today and here we go again,the same discussions. Not that it's bad to have discussions,no.. it's just that we repeat ourselves every single time this happens. |
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I said it before, you need to build a repatriation, then the merit does not matter anymore.. I hate when I have to quote myself but here it is.. Congrats!
Everyone can rank up, but if you wrongly prioritize your goals, it may never happen.
People putting their priorities in the following order fail.
1. Get Merit
2. Rank up
3. Get more money.
4. Go to 1.
The right priorities are :
1. Be curious
2. Start reading
3. Learn
4. Be part of the community
5. Do something to help the others
The result will be exactly what the the guys from the first list are aiming for.
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Nai posle. Maleee purvo se registrira i username e vzeto, sled tova vuv login nema takuv username. Aide sega pak se okaza che vuv login moje da se logne sas e-mail. Zdraveite momcheta. Iskam da pravia pari. Imam 790, 8 gb. ram nvidia 960, sega tuk namerih MSI Radeon RX 580. Moje li sas tezi dve graphichni karti da se pecheli pari. Ako moje kakvo trebva da se instalira, pitam vi zashtoto vuv internet ima samo luji.
Pozdravi
Първо, пиши на кирилица, направо главата ме боли, като чета това мазало. Второ, Аз отдавна зарязах копаенето, тъй като не е продуктивно вече, пък и нямам време и ресурси. Обаче, ако очакваш с 1 карта да правиш "пари", едва ли ще стане. Имай предвид, че това което ще изараш от копененто след като платиш сметките за тока е нещо съвсем дребно /ако изобщо си на +/. Може и да съм в грешка, яко някой знае повече по въпроса, нека сподели, но гледам че бая нашенци разпродават фермите си, (виж тук> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045971.0) което ме навежда на мисълта, че вече няма profit в коепенето. |
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There are many examples people, just check the top 1000 merit receivers and you'll see that receiving merit is not an isolated case. Everyone can do it, takes time but it's not impossible. BTW Happy 10th Anniversary Bitcoin’s White Paper Also, the best way to get merit is to write about merit, not about cryptocurrencies Some of the top receivers are forum statistics/analyzers and yeah, those are the ones getting merit but as the "merit" is still the hot topic, people still gonna discuss it. There are many people getting merit on topics related to Bitcoin and altcoins. There are merit sources keeping an eye there. If you go trough the statistics/tools (of those top merited posters) you can actually find a lot interesting information how the merit is distributed. |
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Those threads should be locked, if the OP is no longer online. They are just a ground to start a new meaningless discussions. |
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There are many examples people, just check the top 1000 merit receivers and you'll see that receiving merit is not an isolated case. Everyone can do it, takes time but it's not impossible. BTW Happy 10th Anniversary Bitcoin’s White Paper |
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I was looking for one too, I thought that maybe theymos posted something but I was wrong. The only info is in the News Feed. I guess this will be the thread, right? |
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@iasenko Dont worry in the last weeks some new reporters coming or shown up , and RL have to be done first ! I try to give my best on reporting bro !  I know man, you are one of the most dedicated guys reporting and you have been active most of the time. Thanks for that man. I'm proud of what this club has become. I though in the beginning that we gonna be only 3-4 people, but it turns out that I was mistaken. Thank you guys |
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