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3501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Until how long will GPU mining last? on: June 05, 2017, 10:17:18 AM
thats a good question i have around 300 rx 570 470 480 and 580
mix 100 sitting idle right now , should i sell them for 1070s since i can get $360 per card for em hmm

btw no pms pls

 I rarely will see a 470/480/570/580 advertised on NewEgg for under $300 and (momentarily) in-stock - I keep getting tempted to buy as many as I can and put them up on craigslist for $100-$200 more....

3502  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BLAST...A...CONTEST! PRIZES ARE 1 LTC AND A COMPAC STICK. Picks yet to start on: June 05, 2017, 10:07:04 AM
such thread
very excitement
happy prizes
summer of vintage love 2017
philipma1957coin to da moon
wow


 *looks around for a second wondering how I got transported to Poloniex Trollbox*

3503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX1070 - Hashrate - Power drain - best performance on: June 05, 2017, 10:04:47 AM

it's useless to have 100% tdp bro, you don't get much mroe in hashgrate versus 80% 150 core, what are your hahsrate on skein with your setting for example? i can get 1giga wiht 80% and +100 corei tried 100% and it's barely get me anything more thna that while consuming much more and overhat the gpu for nothing

 Lowering TDP will drop hashrate after a while - but initially it tends to be a much lower hashrate drop than a power consumption drop, which matters if you have expensive electric and need to maximise EFFICIENCY.
 Lower TDP also keeps a card cooler, which in some cases CAN improve hashrate via the card not going into thermal limiting.


 There is no "one true answer" though, as there are many variables that affect each person differently.


3504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟⚡⛏️💰[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 05, 2017, 10:01:04 AM

 The x11 FPGA were kept secret, but the hashrate showed they must have existed since it was unprofitable for long periods of time to mine DASH but it had massive amounts of hash power.


 Keep in mind that a lot of major farms pay less than 3c/kwh for electric - back in the Darkcoin days even with 8c I was break-even at WORST (but summer rate at 14 convinced me to move to something else, and I never looked back).

 No need for hypothetical FPGA-based X11 miners to explain why it got unprofitable for many small miners.




 I doubt that ETH going to PoS will affect it's price as such - it WILL kill the ability of miners to mine it once it goes 100% PoS, but miner profitability does NOT drive price - price drives profitability.

3505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: June 05, 2017, 09:54:27 AM
For the most options, try CoolBits 31 - 32 sets a single bit that isn't USED by anything AFAIK, 31 sets ALL the bits below that one.

3506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options? on: June 05, 2017, 09:51:11 AM

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?


 sols is a ZEC term - and that looks more like a ZEC hashrate than a Skein one (my 1070s were doing over 500 Mhash/sec on skein when I was checking it out and testing).

 430 would be a tossup on ZEC with a 1070, though you seem to be using somewhat more power (as to be expected from a Maxwell generation card).

3507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: The Blocks Factory - Multicoin pool on: June 05, 2017, 09:48:44 AM
which one is better ccminer or sgminer for skein / groestl??

 Alex78 for skein (I think that's a ccminer branch).
 Not sure on groetsl, tried a few varients but they all seemed to work the same.



 ANY SHA256 miner should work on a DGB-SHA256 pool that can handle the S9.

3508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread on: June 04, 2017, 09:41:04 PM

Team Gridcoin exists of course! Stronger than ever actually, #1 position on all BOINC leaderboards:
http://formula-boinc.org

 And quite a few individual leaders, or very high placings, on the various projects.

 Speaking of which, has anyone seen a list of projects that is sorted by FP64/FP32/Integer GPU usage?

 I know Milkyway is FP64, and Moo Wrapper is integer, but no clue on the other ones and that info seems to be a bit of a pain to find for more than one project at a time.

3509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Until how long will GPU mining last? on: June 04, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
Lack of GPUs prolongs profitability for those who already have them, or manage to get some.

 However, do keep in mind that NVidia makes GPUs too, and they are very profitable on most coins and can often beat AMD on hash/watt even where they lose on hash/$ (mostly ETH ETC and such, and the Cryptonight coins like XMR).

 For ZEC (which isn't the most profitable NVidia coin by far but is probably has the second most GPUs mining on it) NVidia is quite close on hash/$ (and might even WIN on some comparisons) WITHOUT FACTORING IN the current AMD "gouge" pricing.



 Funny part - folks have been pushing the Skein coins a lot, but I actually ended up making more on something else (that I'm NOT going to mention here, as it's fairly small and I don't want the profitability of it to get overwhelmed by a bunch of newbies or even one BIG farm jumping all over it).



Mentioning it or not, it doesn't really matter in the end because it eventually evens out with other coins profitability, lots of people know about whattomine, and also people can check what's hot on trading volume on any exchange especially poloniex which is booming hard... probably you meant SIA,(but it doesn't matter)
SIA went up by a lot last couple of weeks and I jumped on the hype train just today, dual mining eth has finally become more profitable for me...

But Sia is just one of many, generally every altcoin has been pumped since last ~2 months...

 Whattomine doesn't list all algos on the compare page, so yes it DOES matter.

 9-)

 For one example, Skein isn't there (even though at least one Skein-based coin is TON more profitable than Pascal which IS there).

 Additionally, the "hashrate" shown on many algos on many cards is WAY off.


 There are already quite a few coins that NVidia cards mine for higher profitability than AMD cards do - even ZEC in the last month or so has been seeing NVidia achieve equal-to-better hash/$ vs AMD, and ZEC isn't exactly small based on the number of cards needed to achieve the current network hash (I think ETH is the only "bigger" GPU-mineable coin on that basis).


 I doubt that profitability of all coins will return to where they were at a year ago - but I DO expect to see a shakeout and a major dump on profitability for most GPU-based coins over the next year or two - probably triggered when ETH starts *finally* phasing out POW heavily (ballpark when it moves POW to half or less of total "Proofing").

 The interesting thing is if that does end up being the timing, it most likely happen pretty close to the same timeframe that the next generation of SHA256 (and probably Scrypt and possibly X11/X13/X15/etc) ASIC miners start selling.



 Moore's Law has been taking a noticeable hit over the last decade, as current semi tech runs seriously into quantum-level issues, and Silicon reaches the "end of the road" as a viable semi material. The next decade could see Moore's Law end - and it looks definite that it's going to have a major PAUSE as a minimum after the 7/10nm nodes go into production.

3510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟⚡⛏️💰[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 04, 2017, 09:26:38 PM
Find it odd they did ICO on ETH when ETH is going POS when they could have chosen ETC. Does anyone know a reason why they couldn't have used ETC?

 Because ETC has a much smaller market cap and is somewhat harder to trade?

 Also, ETH isn't going POS real soon - they're planning a "phased-in" multi-stage transition starting around end of the year.


 I don't remember any Scrypt (Litecoin) FPGA miners, seems to have skipped straight from GPU to ASIC.

 X11 (Dash etc) definitely skipped FPGA.

 I do agree that GPU rigs are a lot more flexable - it's the tradeoff for them being less efficient than an ASIC.


 Panda wasn't the first "custom GPU" type rig, more like 3'd I think - they do seem to have become the most popular though due to good marketing and *relatively* reasonable pricing compared to the earlier entries.
 It's too bad they insist on using the "mobile" type boards rather than standard boards, but they can cram those mobile boards in tighter.


3511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What are the best replacement for RX 480 / 470s for Ether Mining? on: June 04, 2017, 09:14:23 PM
Mixing AMD and NVidia on the same machine is pretty easy to do under Windows - it's one of the VERY rare things Windows does better than LINUX.

 Stability takes a hit, but it DOES work.



works well and is virtually painless under windows 10  Smiley

windows 7 is different beast all together   Cry

 Nope - I find mixed rigs under 7 to be MORE stable than 10 - though not by a lot - and NO more difficult to set up.


 Mining ETH on a 1070 is not a real good choice - ZEC would be a better choice, some of the smaller-cap coins better yet, under current conditions (skein and groetsl based coins like DGB have been VERY nice most of the last couple weeks).

 29 Mh/sec on ETH out of a 1070 is reasonable, but 90 watts would need better-than-average memory to achieve.

 400+ sol/sec on ZEC out of a 1070 is trivial using EBWF miner, and you probably can get there with some tweeking on under 100 watts.

3512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: (s) 19" Case /Server Case for GPU Rig on: June 04, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
Cooler Master HAF XB Evo
this case can hold 8 gpu

 NOT 4U or even rack mountable.
 Has to be modded to hold more than 3 cards.

 Not even CLOSE to what the OP was asking for.
3513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Burst Mining Issue and Questions (Open Bounties) on: June 04, 2017, 09:06:05 PM
What does, "Unable to get mining info from wallet" mean in Jminer?
As far as I understand it, the Jminer tries to get information about the winner of a block from a wallet to display it in the log. It's an optional feature and can either use a local or an online wallet. You should be able to deactive this feature by setting

Code:
walletServer=

to an empty string in the jminer.properties file

 Which does NOT stop the "Unable to get mining info from wallet" error messages.
 I've DONE that.

 I'm not sure if that's a bug or if the message comes from something else.

3514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Burst Mining Issue and Questions (Open Bounties) on: June 04, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
What does, "Unable to get mining info from wallet" mean in Jminer?

 I haven't figured that one out myself, but I just ignore it as it doesn't seem to affect anything.

3515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v12.5 (Windows/Linux) on: June 04, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
Any plans for Nvidia support? The AMD cards are impossible to get right now.

 There are other miners that work well for Nvidia.

3516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: (s) 19" Case /Server Case for GPU Rig on: June 04, 2017, 01:19:30 PM
The L4000 won't work AT ALL for 4 x GPUs, unless you use single-slot stuff like the AMD WX series or the Galax "Katana" models.

 It only has 7 "peripheral" slots, you need *2 each* for most current GPUs that are worth mining on.

 For more than 4, you're looking at either VERY high priced cases, or custom "mining specific" cases that still tend to be high priced.



I beg to differ 6 is easy. 7 is doable. 8 is pushing it.

 As I said, custom "mining specific" cases - using an adapter or modifying the case counts.


3517  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Newbie needs help. on: June 04, 2017, 01:17:37 PM
The EVGA 1600 should handle any S9 or T9 model
I WOULD recommmend strongly that you make sure the circuit it is plugged into is a 20 amp circuit, and do NOT plug anything else into the other side of the same outlet if the outlet is a common "duplex" type outlet - and I would also recommend that you only plug it into a 20-amp rated outlet if at all possible, as that thing WILL overload a 15 amp outlet if it's running at more than about 90% of max capasity (though a T9 shouldn't push it QUITE that hard).

 220 VAC is actually the normal voltage that is fed to US residences and small businesses, but it's center-tapped AKA "split-phase" so you can pull 110 off of it for most "common" usages in the US.

 Electric Driers, Hot Water Heaters of more than about 6 gallon capacity, Electric Ranges, most wall-type electric heaters, some HIGH capacity A/C units, are normally 220V.

3518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized. on: June 04, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
My "new build" that I've got the parts for but haven't had the time to get to (moving is PAINFULL when you get to my age with as much stuff as I have to move) will use a minor varient on Phil's Gigabyte - the D vs the HD

Only differences seem to be "2 PS/2 type connectors" vs 1 + 2 USB, and my board has a D-Sub VGA port Phil's doesn't have.

 I suspect they will work the same.

3519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options? on: June 04, 2017, 12:55:52 PM
I'm liking DGB the last couple weeks - on my A2 Scrypt miners.

 Made more with my 1070s and my 1080 doing something else though for the last week and most of the last month - though DGB-skein and DGB-groetsl were good money makers a lot of the month.

3520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU mining on: June 04, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
I believe the best option for XMR on a hash/watt basis is still the NVidia GTX 750 ti - for some reason they hit a real sweet spot.

 There are some CPUs that can argue the point, though, but for some reason I don't think they've been beat (though they HAVE been challenged) on a hash/watt basis by newer GPUs.


 250 hash (common with a very mild overclock) on something like 45-50 watts actual usage (don't go by TDP, go by at-the-wall measurements)....

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