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4181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 10, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
Hello !

Is is normal speed for Windows 7 64 / Clymore's 10.0 V   ?

3X R9 280X XFX



 (1) let it run for a while to get stable and full count for stats.
 (2) 215-220 ballpark is reasonable for a R9 280x from what I've seen.
 

Thank you !
It's about 30 hours working but a same speed. total 650-660. Same speed was on Clymore's 9.3 ..... why ?

P.s
Crimson driver 16.12.2
Bios Version: 280XTB16
OS: 7 64x SP1

 Try 15.12 drivers on those cards, or 16.10.1 if you have to have newer for some reason. I've not tested 16.12.2 specifically but 16.12.1 was 5-10% slower on ALL of my testing vs the other 2 versions (16.9.2 was same speed as 16.10.1 but I prefer WQHL qualified versions when possible).

4182  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: metrobitcoinminer.com selling Antminer U3, is it legit? on: January 10, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
The U3 is an old, quite outdated design that hasn't been sold new for getting close to 2 years now (perhaps 3, I've lost track).

 The ONLY ones you will find are used from various sources, and they WILL use more electric than they will make in coin unless you treat them as a "lottery" type solo mining device and get VERY VERY lucky.

 They might be profitable if you find one VERY cheap and have free electric, but even that is iffy - depends on if they're likely to survive while mining for a decade or some such timeframe.



4183  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: hardware requirement for mining on: January 10, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
If you want to even break even on mining Bitcoin under current conditions, you need a recent design ASIC device - it hasn't been mineable for a profit with CPUs or GPUs for YEARS.

 Antminer S9, Avalon 721 are the current best options with a few more that are "in the works" or in early days of sales.

 If your electric is cheap enough, you might be able to get by with the Anminer S7 or Avalon 6 and still be able to make enough to pay them off before they become unprofitable.


 There are also quite a few "altcoins", some of which are quite profitable (for now at least) to mine with GPU-based rigs and a very few of which might be mineable with CPUs.


 Forget mining on a smartphone. Too much electric usage for almost NO coins mined, and they're not DESIGNED to be pushing the CPU that hard for any significant length of time.

4184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ethminer-0.9.41-genoil-1.1 on: January 10, 2017, 10:09:16 AM
Are you sure the second card is running at full clock?

 That looks more like the common "dummy plug needed on the second card to get it to not stay in idle mode 'cause Windows/Win Drivers are dumb that way" issue than any issue with Genoil's miner.
4185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 10, 2017, 09:50:05 AM
Hello !

Is is normal speed for Windows 7 64 / Clymore's 10.0 V   ?

3X R9 280X XFX



 (1) let it run for a while to get stable and full count for stats.
 (2) 215-220 ballpark is reasonable for a R9 280x from what I've seen.
 
4186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 10, 2017, 09:48:52 AM
Damn, the increase speed is awesome but my rig is getting more and more heat and its summer here lol. Anyone did a comparison between mining zec and eth too see which one consume more energy?
I think both are nearly the same. It depends how much undervolting can take each algorithm. For me zcash is by a tiny bit less power consuming.
Currently here is a winter with -20 C outside. Inside it is +25 C because I have rigs in each room  Roll Eyes. Excellent solution for heating the appartment  Grin. But for the summer it is a hell. Two AC 1200 are not enough. I will need a third AC or have to figure out some way of channelling  the heat outside. Huh

how do you fight dry air if its + 25 inside? I was thinking to use these for heating.... but it would be just too dry inside.

 Humidifier(s) or an evaporative cooler (which is basically a large-scale humidifier designed to take advantage of the cooling effect of water vaporising)
4187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon on: January 10, 2017, 09:24:22 AM

You guys do realize that the bitcoinwisdom calc is still doing the calculation with 50 LTC block rewards right? So its off by a factor of two.


Also just for variety..using USA average 10c kWh and the L3 400 watts (may be a tad less...but what the mnfg claims) and current LTC high of $4.19 usd.

I get below:

24 hours   1.71848145 LTC   7.20 USD   0.96 USD   6.24 USD
7 days   12.02937012 LTC   50.40 USD   6.72 USD   43.68 USD
30 days   51.55444336 LTC   216.01 USD   28.80 USD   187.21 USD




 It IS a bit annoying having to manually fix that 50 to 25 every time I use the bitcoinwisdom calc - but it's still overall a good calc and VERY flexable.


 BTW - try that cal on 5c / KWH electric - there are a LOT of miners that don't pay 10c / kwh or even close specifically including most LARGE farms that are closer to 3 than 5.

4188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: January 09, 2017, 09:26:10 PM
I wish Blago's miner did NOT go automatically to upper-left-corner - why doesn't it go where the profile layout configuration TELLS it to go like almost any other Windows program?

 Upper left corner is THE VERY WORST PLACE you can put any console.



IIRC that is the default windows setting for anything running in a console. I.e. Sergej did not place it there intentionally, it just runs that way by default.

 But most programs pay attention to the settings.

4189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 08:50:37 PM

I had a similar issue with a 280x toxic, clocked at 1150/1600. I tried lowering clocks, raising voltage but the card was running wild to up to 320 h/s and a lot of rejects and errors. Lowering intensity to 4 solved it. For some reason, cards even within the same chipset behave differently.

 One of my pair of R9 280x (both are the SAME model of Gigabyte Windforce card) gets very wierd unstable and unhappy at anything over -i 4 but runs reliably at that intensity.
 The other one will run at anything up to -i 8 but seems to give the highest reliable hashrate results at -i 6.


 My RX 470s were happy at -i 8 on v9.1 but got very crashy on v9.2 at same settings, dropped them to -i 7 and they're a lot happier - then moved them to v10 and they're still happiest at -i 7.
 (definitely not an inadaquate PS - that machine is running on a Seasonic X-1250)

4190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: January 09, 2017, 06:04:38 PM
I wish Blago's miner did NOT go automatically to upper-left-corner - why doesn't it go where the profile layout configuration TELLS it to go like almost any other Windows program?

 Upper left corner is THE VERY WORST PLACE you can put any console.

4191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 05:40:33 PM
Pair of Sapphire ref-style RX 470, no bios mod

Nice improvement from 9.2 on my dual R9 280x too - 380ish total to 417 (unhappy card at -i4 happy card at -i6)


What memory do you have on your gpus?

 Both the R9 280x and RX 470 cards I have are Hynix ram

4192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gateless Gate: zawawa's open-source cross-platform OpenCL Zcash miner on: January 09, 2017, 09:58:16 AM
Since I am away from home until Wednesday and do not have access to dedicated graphics cards, I just decided to try potential replacements for gatelessgate.py as I feel more comfortable with C++ than Python and I think the Python component of SA v5 is rather lacking as far as functionality is concerned. I am planning to evaluate sgminer-gm and nheqminer. I hope they should bring GG on par with Claymore's in terms of usability.

 IMO go with sgminer by a wide margin over the Nicehash one, it has a lot better pool support built in already (the Nicehash one has to be modded to work with anything BUT Nicehash) and I personally prefer the interface quite a bit.

4193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon on: January 09, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
The problem will likely be the flood of L3's coming online and the massive increase in difficulty.  Profitability is likely going to get squeezed pretty hard here. 

I am trying not to be negative, but I think we have already seen the precursor with the big spike recently that we thought was the A4's.  Most likely that was due to the L3's and not as much the A4's.  Just a wild guess on my part, but it certainly fits the time line.  Not sure that these miners will be profitable for very long.  I guess we will find out soon enough.

There are at least 6 different coins with reasonably good profitability. My guess everybody will mine GAME and LTC, so difficulty spike will be with those coins.


 I hope you're not counting any of the "merged mineable" coins like Doge in your 6.



4194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon on: January 09, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
If the price of 1.78 BTC is accurate, there's no hope of ROI.

The bitcoinwisdom calculator came up with over 1188 days with no end in sight (that's as far ahead as the calculator will show) with a 3% difficulty increase, 2% pool fee, 20 day delivery (who knows when they'll ship), and free electricity.

I guess anyone buying these have to be optimistic about the difficulty flattening some months down the road after the spike once the L3 is released. Also they'd have to be willing to trust that the L3 will be more reliable than the S9.

As much as I'm intrigued by the idea of the L3, I'll probably sit this one out.

Somehow you have a very significant systematic error in your calculations.

ROI is 290 days having an electricity price of 10c (US) - which is very good


I used bitcoinwisdom.com's litecoin mining calculator. Just ran the numbers again and got the same answer.

 What did each of you use for difficulty increase?

 That makes a HUGE difference in ROI calculations.

4195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Review of Panda Miner coming up. on: January 09, 2017, 09:34:55 AM
Tried Niceheash Windows Miner v 1.7.3.11 -- running normally - will run overnight to see if it can hold.

During installation, required .NET 3.5 installation as prerequisite.

GPU benchmark listed only Dagger-Hashimoto and Equihash coins.

Strange - running this NH miner on normal rig lists more than this 2 algorithms.

However, if you choose to also include CPU mining, it will list more algos like LYRA2RE, HODL and Cryptonite.

This version supports 3rd party miners like latest versions of Claymore ETH and ZEC miners.

This NH Windows Miner is probably the most easiest to set up and ideal for mining newbies.


 I believe you are required to install 3'd party miners to support some of the other algorythms.
 I've always done that on my NH installations, so not sure.

 NH also supports the Genoil ETH miner, if you don't like the double-whammy fees involved in running Claymore on ETH.

 IMO most folks are better off not running Nicehash at this point on anything but NVidia.

4196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
Still, market is stuck in 46usd...is there any problem, why didn't price just rocked to 60 ou maybe 100usd?

 What reason is there for a big price jump on ZEC?

 Have *ANY* major retailers started accepting it?

 I personally am shocked it's holding at double-digit dollars at all....


 Right now the only reason ZEC price ever "jumps" is whales doing pump-and-dump moves.

4197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 09:19:22 AM
Already began to reflect the replacement of the card at NVIDIA, took for the experiment were collected one rig 6*1070=2620-2700 sol give me Claymore v 10 really disappointed me. 390 I think AMD will not catch up with NVIDIA

 Do keep in mind that the 1070 is ballpark $400 card, while the RX 470 are sub-$200 and many RX 480 are also sub-$200 though the average for the 480 seems to be closer to $220.

 Why is it a shock that a high-end high cost card can outperform a "mainstream" much lower cost card?

 The REAL comparison should be to the NVidia card in the same price range, the GTX 1060.




4198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 09:15:47 AM
Pair of Sapphire ref-style RX 470, no bios mod

1250/1750/-75mv

 -i 7

Went from a little under 200 sol/s each on v9.1 to 233ish each on v10

Nice improvement from 9.2 on my dual R9 280x too - 380ish total to 417 (unhappy card at -i4 happy card at -i6)

 1100/1500 no bios mod


 211-221 sol/s for a single R9 280x is in the range I'm seeing on my pair.

4199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 08:40:00 AM
Any place / documentation on which are the supported graphics card for using Claymore's GPU Miner ?

I have an AMD Radeon HD 6450 it does not seem to be supported. It only using the CPU .
I had tried with v9.3 and also with 7.x
I have the latest drivers installed  ( Crimson ReLive Edition 16.12.2 ) installed . But it does not seem to be working .  This is the message on the console it gives :

ZEC - Total Speed: 0.000 H/s, Total Shares: 0, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01
ZEC: GPU0 0.000 H/s

with niceminer (nheqminer_v0.4b_suprnova) for windows and using suprnova pool, am getting around 7.69 to 8 Sols/s. Is this quite low for this configuration or is it just about the speed that one can get with this config ?

Any pointers are appreciated.

install driver version 15.12 and upgrade from there.

 No version 16 drivers AFAIK support pre-GCN cards at all.
 15.12 should work with the HD 6450 - it works with my AMD A10-5700 APUs that are same-generation GPU units.
4200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 08:36:37 AM


I tried to run 7990s and 480x on the same rig, and it will "work" but its not very stable. Id use two rigs if possible. The older 79xx cards like the 15.12 drivers, but these drivers wont detect my 480's ( and probably the 470's).

JJ

when u run cards like that in same rig u have to try diff configurations in card order also try 15.x drivers my case drivers dont make much difference i been running 1 rig with 7970 with a 290x with 14.12 7970 is at 267 v10 290 is at 335 v9.3 as 9.3 is better 4 290/390 atm

with your type i just set a guys r480 with 2 290x's it didnt like the rx480 in 2nd or last but 1st pcie slot just depends on the rig(mobo)as this was on a rig that wasnt cross x compatible was a old q9550 rig

 ANY RX series card requires 16.x series drivers (I am not sure on the specific version, I *believe* somewhere around 16.4 is when support for the RX series was first added), as the 15.12 drivers predate the release of the RX series by a few months.
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