Peeps place, can you explain cloudbet rating? They odds look good all the time and they do offer a dep bonus but im afraid to deposit any significant amount there after trying a B rated book.
Are their withdrawal issues you know of?
Hi Bismarck, Withdrawals are immediate. Cloudbet opened in Sept 2013. Because of the amount of bitcoin books that have gone under, a book must be in business for at least one year to get a "B" rating. Cloudbet has the highest rating that a book can get at "C+" for a book being in business less than a year. With the bonus, they release the bonus slowly into your account based on loyalty points. Even though I play there I'm not 100% sure how the loyalty points work. It does seem to take a lot of play to earn the bonus. They did have some technical problems with deposits that have been solved. These guys seem to have been in the business for a long time prior to opening Cloudbet. Overall, I think it's a very good book. There haven't been any problems with payouts. |
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Author Topic: here we go again with betcoinsports (Read 16 times)
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here we go again with betcoinsports
Today at 05:06:50 PM
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i sent my deposit yesterday the emailed me at 7:23 pm saying it was pending and it took over 5 hrs and i got a email saying it was complete but i checked my account and nothing i sent several emails with noreply where is my deposit at i had noproblem cashing out last week but making a deposit is like pulling teeth i guess i like there book because they take litecoins but come on where is my deposit i will update this when i get my deposit |
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Betcoinsports- Please reply to the following complaints, thanks: Bismarckbkk 3. Betcoinsports - has deposit bonus
- wrote an email to clarify deposit bonus no reply after 3 days as of now
- no explanation of how to redeem said bonus
- cannot see odds without making account and deposit
- made deposit , says on site credited after 1 conf , not true . Did credited after a couple hours
- got email saying my account was now ready to use and could login into sportsbook with account details, not true. Can not log in
- wrote email stating said fact , no reply after 6 hours as of yet. Will wait 24 hours then attempt withdrawal alabamafan1 They lie saying they have 10,000 customers daily and such. Impossible. Look at their hot wallet, generally 5-10 withdraws a day. alabamafan1 Someone signed up yesterday as a referral to me there and deposited 2.50 BTC. I was supposed to get 10% of their deposit as part of betcoinpartners but was told I'm only going to get 0.05 BTC and that I would get it today. Looking at my account today, there is no 0.05 (50 credits) in my account Bismarckbkk I didnt get a reply to either email I sent them and the first was 3 days ago.
They did not keep their 5 hour window |
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
CoinBet C (2014)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-
"F" rated book
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC
NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed. All but one player was paid.
Bitsaloon - Closed
Beta books not included.
Any chance you can list the year of opening for each book? will do tomorrow at the latest. |
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I too hope you get paid Let's give them a little more time to reply. I haven't received a reply to the PM yet. I just sent an email to their contact form making them aware of this thread.
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Anyone else have an experiences with Betcoinsports good or bad? My personal experience with them was good. They paid me 9 BTC around the time BTC were worth $1k.
When I tried to help with a player complaint, they were tough to deal with. They didn't pay the player until the player posted his complaint in this thread. Other posters agreed with the player and Betcoinsports paid.
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If you guys have a question or problem with any book, you can post it here. That way we can all see what is happening.
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I like to post my thoughts in some bookies.
1. Nitrogensports - good support
- easy account creation and deposits
- decent odds although could be better
- good design and easy to work with, could use a few technical improvements but easy to navigate and intuitive to use
- sometimes games are up too late
2. Anonibet - very fast deposits and withdrawals
- pretty bad odds , always worse then nitro ( mlb & nba )
- good bet selection
3. Betcoinsports - has deposit bonus
- wrote an email to clarify deposit bonus no reply after 3 days as of now
- no explanation of how to redeem said bonus
- cannot see odds without making account and deposit
- made deposit , says on site credited after 1 conf , not true . Did credited after a couple hours
- got email saying my account was now ready to use and could login into sportsbook with account details, not true. Can not log in
- wrote email stating said fact , no reply after 6 hours as of yet. Will wait 24 hours then attempt withdrawal
keep us updated. I'll shoot them a PM now to see if they want to reply. |
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I'd like to thank guys like Legion and the rest that have posted thoughts and information on the books. There is no way in the world that the ratings could have been accurate if it were my sole opinion alone without input from others.
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I hope that it's a normal exchange and not a hybrid. I also hope that they don't seed the offerings.
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Nitrogen Sports will be releasing our betting exchange in the coming weeks.
What this means:
1. Betting Limits: unlimited
2. Odds: you can set your own, or follow the juice free (vig free) line
Most likely we will start with a subset of sports/leagues (Only NBA/MLB to start for example)
More information to follow.
Let us know if you have any questions/suggestions, as we would love to incorporate some member feedback! |
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Gobetgo will have an initial rating in May.
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Gogo- Books that have taken down their website and closed shop are now irrelevant. It shouldn't matter to anyone. It has been noted that they are out of business. I'm not going to argue why a book closed unless they are still accepting deposits.
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-
"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.
Beta books not included.
"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players." " Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place Relevance: 47.5% Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.
They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else. Cheesy _______________________________________________________________________________ _________" "Bitbook - Closed but paid players." "cam02003 Jr. Member * Activity: 43 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Can't access my bitbook.biz balance - need to withdraw because of shutdownMarch 20, 2014, 03:42:41 AM Reply with quote #1 I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________ You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players. Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him. Bitbook let people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid. There is no way to know how many. Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players". How hard is it to record this correctly? Unfortunately this thread will always be of limited value, given the limitations of Raiders (Peeps Place). I'll add the caveat of one player being shorted by Sportsmatch. A partial payment was made. Bitcoin posted that they were closing shop and posted a window in which players could withdraw their full balance. Those that waited beyond that 10 day time didn't receive their funds. Don't believe everything that you read. |
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bitsaloon closed a long time ago.
will edit to reflect it. Thank you. |
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-
"F" rated book
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC
NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed. All but one player was paid.
Bitsaloon - Closed
Beta books not included.
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Dear Peeps Place,
As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.
At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.
We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.
Keep on the good job!
On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!
Michael
To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place, This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service. We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work! Cheers, Cloudbet PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon. Dear Cloudbet, Sure we can have a beer. We would like to see you becoming stronger in order to help us expanding the number Bitcoin punters. We are at Anonibet fervent Bitcoin believers and so called "anarcho-liberals", so competition is something we love. We are advertising outside the Bitcoin community on purely "betting" websites in order to convert traditional punters to Bitcoin. We would like to see our competitors to do the same, so we can grow the number of Bitcoin punters. Peeps Place, carry on the good job! Regards, Michael I think that's a great point. Too many new books are opening up trying to grab the same clients. There's an untapped wealth of gamblers that haven't converted to bitcoins yet. |
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.
Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books. I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why). Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be. As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean. I signed up at BetOWI when EOG took them on as an advertiser. I never made a deposit. BetOWI raised the roll to 16x on the 100% bonus. I got stiffed by another 100% bonus book over there in BetRevolution. Has anyone made any bitcoin deposits or withdrawals from BetOWI? |
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.
Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books. |
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