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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89153 times)
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April 10, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
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A few posters have mentioned that a book should earn it's grade. Some books have gone under confiscating player's funds. All of them where in business less than one year. The following will be maximum grades based upon time in business. No exceptions will be made.

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players.

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April 10, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

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April 10, 2014, 11:38:35 PM
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).
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April 11, 2014, 01:12:11 AM
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A few posters have mentioned that a book should earn it's grade. Some books have gone under confiscating player's funds. All of them where in business less than one year. The following will be maximum grades based upon time in business. No exceptions will be made.

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players.

You had mentioned you were planning to utilize my suggestion of noting which books autograde and which do it manually.

I'd suggest also that you note with each book the amount of time they've been in business.

I'd suggest you add both of these items under the book's name in your ratings.
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April 11, 2014, 04:01:51 AM
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Dear Peeps Place,

As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.

We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.

Keep on the good job!

On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!

Michael

To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place,

This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service.

We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon.

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April 11, 2014, 06:22:05 AM
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).
Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be.
As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean.
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April 11, 2014, 06:51:21 AM
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Dear Peeps Place,

As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.

We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.

Keep on the good job!

On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!

Michael

To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place,

This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service.

We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon.

Dear Cloudbet,

Sure we can have a beer. We would like to see you becoming stronger in order to help us expanding the number Bitcoin punters.

We are at Anonibet fervent Bitcoin believers and so called "anarcho-liberals", so competition is something we love. We are advertising outside the Bitcoin community on purely "betting" websites in order to convert traditional punters to Bitcoin. We would like to see our competitors to do the same, so we can grow the number of Bitcoin punters.

Peeps Place, carry on the good job!

Regards,

Michael

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April 11, 2014, 07:28:39 AM
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).
Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be.
As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean.
I signed up at BetOWI when EOG took them on as an advertiser. I never made a deposit. BetOWI raised the roll to 16x on the 100% bonus. I got stiffed by another 100% bonus book over there in BetRevolution.

Has anyone made any bitcoin deposits or withdrawals from BetOWI?

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April 11, 2014, 07:34:56 AM
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Dear Peeps Place,

As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.

We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.

Keep on the good job!

On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!

Michael

To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place,

This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service.

We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon.

Dear Cloudbet,

Sure we can have a beer. We would like to see you becoming stronger in order to help us expanding the number Bitcoin punters.

We are at Anonibet fervent Bitcoin believers and so called "anarcho-liberals", so competition is something we love. We are advertising outside the Bitcoin community on purely "betting" websites in order to convert traditional punters to Bitcoin. We would like to see our competitors to do the same, so we can grow the number of Bitcoin punters.

Peeps Place, carry on the good job!

Regards,

Michael
I think that's a great point. Too many new books are opening up trying to grab the same clients. There's an untapped wealth of gamblers that haven't converted to bitcoins yet.

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April 11, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
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Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.
I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).
Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be.
As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean.
I signed up at BetOWI when EOG took them on as an advertiser. I never made a deposit. BetOWI raised the roll to 16x on the 100% bonus. I got stiffed by another 100% bonus book over there in BetRevolution.

Has anyone made any bitcoin deposits or withdrawals from BetOWI?

I also lost from betrev but not really because of all the 100% bonuses I got before they did that, things go wrong once in a while but u see they were in business for 4 years and stayed a D+ the whole time without any complaints until the end, so instead of depositing $2000 at a time it was $500 for me and I always tried to keep not to big of a balance.
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated book
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC

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Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed. All but one player was paid.
Bitsaloon - Closed

Beta books not included.

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bitsaloon closed a long time ago.
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.



"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
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Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0
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You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let some people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?








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bitsaloon closed a long time ago.
will edit to reflect it. Thank you.

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"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.



"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place
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Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0
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You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?

Unfortunately this thread will always be of limited value, given the limitations of Raiders (Peeps Place).








I'll add the caveat of one player being shorted by Sportsmatch. A partial payment was made.

 Bitcoin posted that they were closing shop and posted a window in which players could withdraw their full balance. Those that waited beyond that 10 day time didn't receive their funds. Don't believe everything that you read.

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"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.



"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place
Relevance: 47.5%
Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________


You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?

Unfortunately this thread will always be of limited value, given the limitations of Raiders (Peeps Place).








I'll add the caveat of one player being shorted by Sportsmatch. A partial payment was made. Bitcoin posted that they were closing shop and posted a window in which players could withdraw their full balance. Those that waited beyond that time didn't receive their funds. That cannot be considered a stiff job.



The thread makes clear they didn't "wait" to withdraw funds - they were unaware of the impending closure.

The owner is aware that he is holding some deposited funds.
If he wanted to make good he could have left an email address or some other form of contact, rather than a complete disappearance.
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April 11, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
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Gogo- Books that have taken down their website and closed shop are now irrelevant. It shouldn't matter to anyone. It has been noted that they are out of business. I'm not going to argue why a book closed unless they are still accepting deposits.

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April 11, 2014, 08:39:16 PM
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Gobetgo will have an initial rating in May.

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Nitrogen Sports will be releasing our betting exchange in the coming weeks.

What this means:
1. Betting Limits: unlimited
2. Odds: you can set your own, or follow the juice free (vig free) line

Most likely we will start with a subset of sports/leagues (Only NBA/MLB to start for example)

More information to follow.

Let us know if you have any questions/suggestions, as we would love to incorporate some member feedback!

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