#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[info@anonibet.com]

Dear Peeps Place,

As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.

We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.

Keep on the good job!

On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!

Michael

To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place,

This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service.

We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon.

Dear Cloudbet,

Sure we can have a beer. We would like to see you becoming stronger in order to help us expanding the number Bitcoin punters.

We are at Anonibet fervent Bitcoin believers and so called "anarcho-liberals", so competition is something we love. We are advertising outside the Bitcoin community on purely "betting" websites in order to convert traditional punters to Bitcoin. We would like to see our competitors to do the same, so we can grow the number of Bitcoin punters.

Peeps Place, carry on the good job!

Regards,

Michael

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[Peeps Place]

Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.

I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).

Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be.
As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean.

I signed up at BetOWI when EOG took them on as an advertiser. I never made a deposit. BetOWI raised the roll to 16x on the 100% bonus. I got stiffed by another 100% bonus book over there in BetRevolution.

Has anyone made any bitcoin deposits or withdrawals from BetOWI?

[Peeps Place]

Dear Peeps Place,

As Anonibet we will not enter into any discussion with other bookies trying to discredit us. We have very seldom posted on your thread because it should be a rating thread by players for players. We have only answered once or twice questions here, we will not praise Anonibet here neither we will attack other bookies and discredit them.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin customers are very experienced consumers and they know where to place their bet, they know who to trust or not.

We will only post on this thread if some questions are directly asked to us.

Keep on the good job!

On behalf of Anonibet.com, your trusted Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino since 2011!

Michael

To the wonderful folks at Anonibet and Peeps Place,

This is very well phrased. We completely agree. Peeps Place's ratings should be by the players, for the players. All of us operators should be held accountable to the community, and we should strive to continuously improve our product offering and level of service.

We won't clutter the thread arguing over our ratings - just please let us know if there if anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, feedback, or suggestions for Cloudbet. Otherwise, keep up the superb work!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

PS: Anonibet, we love your work. Let's have a beer soon.

Dear Cloudbet,

Sure we can have a beer. We would like to see you becoming stronger in order to help us expanding the number Bitcoin punters.

We are at Anonibet fervent Bitcoin believers and so called "anarcho-liberals", so competition is something we love. We are advertising outside the Bitcoin community on purely "betting" websites in order to convert traditional punters to Bitcoin. We would like to see our competitors to do the same, so we can grow the number of Bitcoin punters.

Peeps Place, carry on the good job!

Regards,

Michael

I think that's a great point. Too many new books are opening up trying to grab the same clients. There's an untapped wealth of gamblers that haven't converted to bitcoins yet.

[Legions36]

Seriously why is all this back and forth with Directbet? They really need to stop already, haven't they only been in business for a few months already? Your actually kind to books Peepsplace, if it was me they would be rated a C just like how SBR does unless they prove otherwise just because they are "new". Don't let up because some books do a couple of good things, it has to be all the time.

Also Peeps look into adding Betowi and Sportsbetting online to your list, they also accept bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, they have been in business for a few years. Just thought u should know as they offer 100% bonuses.

I just found out that Betowi and Sportsbettingonline are the same. You can use the same ID and password for both books.

I did some searching on them and noticed that Sportsbookreview gave them both C- grades (though I'm not sure why).

Yes this is what they started a C rating at SBR and it has been 2 years with no upgrade, this is what I'm trying to get PeepsPlace to understand in the ratings as they have been pretty good over the last few years with no payout issues from my understanding. Books have to earn there ratings and show they are good for players. This is how players can judge how safe there hard earned money will be.
As for these books I mentioned, I deposit $500 get that 100% bonus and try to only bet $200 and also try not to keep to high balances here, I have other books for that, these are promo books if u know what I mean.

I signed up at BetOWI when EOG took them on as an advertiser. I never made a deposit. BetOWI raised the roll to 16x on the 100% bonus. I got stiffed by another 100% bonus book over there in BetRevolution.

Has anyone made any bitcoin deposits or withdrawals from BetOWI?

I also lost from betrev but not really because of all the 100% bonuses I got before they did that, things go wrong once in a while but u see they were in business for 4 years and stayed a D+ the whole time without any complaints until the end, so instead of depositing $2000 at a time it was $500 for me and I always tried to keep not to big of a balance.

[Peeps Place]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated book
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed. All but one player was paid.
Bitsaloon - Closed

Beta books not included.

[crazy573]

bitsaloon closed a long time ago.

[Gogo ppp]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.

"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place
Relevance: 47.5%
Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
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"Bitbook - Closed but paid players."


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Can't access my bitbook.biz balance - need to withdraw because of shutdown
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

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You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let some people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?

[Peeps Place]

bitsaloon closed a long time ago.

will edit to reflect it. Thank you.

[Peeps Place]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.

"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place
Relevance: 47.5%
Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________"

"Bitbook - Closed but paid players."


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Can't access my bitbook.biz balance - need to withdraw because of shutdown
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________


You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?

Unfortunately this thread will always be of limited value, given the limitations of Raiders (Peeps Place).

I'll add the caveat of one player being shorted by Sportsmatch. A partial payment was made.

 Bitcoin posted that they were closing shop and posted a window in which players could withdraw their full balance. Those that waited beyond that 10 day time didn't receive their funds. Don't believe everything that you read.

[Gogo ppp]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+
Betcoinsports B-

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+
Cloudbet C+
SBObitcoin C+
CoinBet C
DirectBet C
Jetwin C-
BetOWI C-
Bitbm C-

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+
Roadbet D+
BetVIP D+
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC

NR
Bitbook - Closed but paid players.
BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players.

Beta books not included.

"BTCSportsmatch - Closed but paid players."



" Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books
on: March 17, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Started by Peeps Place, Message by Peeps Place
Relevance: 47.5%
Quote from: boosblock on March 17, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
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"Bitbook - Closed but paid players."


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Can't access my bitbook.biz balance - need to withdraw because of shutdown
March 20, 2014, 03:42:41 AM
   
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I just saw yesterday that they are shutting down the site. The website is down and I can't get on to withdraw. How am I to do this?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523426.0
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________


You are well aware of both of the above, yet you post that they paid players.

Afaik, boosblock was never repaid the funds BTC Sportsmatch stole from him.


Bitbook let people withdraw funds until they disappeared, knowingly leaving some depositors unpaid.
There is no way to know how many.


Only in the world of Raiders does this equal "Closed but paid players".


How hard is it to record this correctly?

Unfortunately this thread will always be of limited value, given the limitations of Raiders (Peeps Place).

I'll add the caveat of one player being shorted by Sportsmatch. A partial payment was made. Bitcoin posted that they were closing shop and posted a window in which players could withdraw their full balance. Those that waited beyond that time didn't receive their funds. That cannot be considered a stiff job.

The thread makes clear they didn't "wait" to withdraw funds - they were unaware of the impending closure.

The owner is aware that he is holding some deposited funds.
If he wanted to make good he could have left an email address or some other form of contact, rather than a complete disappearance.

[Peeps Place]

Gogo- Books that have taken down their website and closed shop are now irrelevant. It shouldn't matter to anyone. It has been noted that they are out of business. I'm not going to argue why a book closed unless they are still accepting deposits.

[Peeps Place]

Gobetgo will have an initial rating in May.

[Peeps Place]

Nitrogen Sports will be releasing our betting exchange in the coming weeks.

What this means:
1. Betting Limits: unlimited
2. Odds: you can set your own, or follow the juice free (vig free) line

Most likely we will start with a subset of sports/leagues (Only NBA/MLB to start for example)

More information to follow.

Let us know if you have any questions/suggestions, as we would love to incorporate some member feedback!

[Peeps Place]

I hope that it's a normal exchange and not a hybrid. I also hope that they don't seed the offerings.

[Peeps Place]

I'd like to thank guys like Legion and the rest that have posted thoughts and information on the books. There is no way in the world that the ratings could have been accurate if it were my sole opinion alone without input from others.

[Bismarckbkk]

I like to post my thoughts in some bookies.

1. Nitrogensports - good support
                        - easy account creation and deposits
                        - decent odds although could be better
                        - good design and easy to work with, could use a few technical improvements but easy to navigate and intuitive to use
                        - sometimes games are up too late
 2. Anonibet        - very fast deposits and withdrawals
                        - pretty bad odds , always worse then nitro ( mlb & nba )
                        - good bet selection


3. Betcoinsports  - has deposit bonus
                        - wrote an email to clarify deposit bonus no reply after 3 days as of now
                        - no explanation of how to redeem said bonus
                        - cannot see odds without making account and deposit
                        - made deposit , says on site credited after 1 conf , not true . Did credited after a couple hours
                        - got email saying my account was now ready to use and could login into sportsbook with account details, not true. Can not log in
                        - wrote email stating said fact , no reply after 6 hours as of yet. Will wait 24 hours then attempt withdrawal
 

[Peeps Place]

I like to post my thoughts in some bookies.

1. Nitrogensports - good support
                        - easy account creation and deposits
                        - decent odds although could be better
                        - good design and easy to work with, could use a few technical improvements but easy to navigate and intuitive to use
                        - sometimes games are up too late
 2. Anonibet        - very fast deposits and withdrawals
                        - pretty bad odds , always worse then nitro ( mlb & nba )
                        - good bet selection


3. Betcoinsports  - has deposit bonus
                        - wrote an email to clarify deposit bonus no reply after 3 days as of now
                        - no explanation of how to redeem said bonus
                        - cannot see odds without making account and deposit
                        - made deposit , says on site credited after 1 conf , not true . Did credited after a couple hours
                        - got email saying my account was now ready to use and could login into sportsbook with account details, not true. Can not log in
                        - wrote email stating said fact , no reply after 6 hours as of yet. Will wait 24 hours then attempt withdrawal
 

keep us updated. I'll shoot them a PM now to see if they want to reply.

[Peeps Place]

If you guys have a question or problem with any book, you can post it here. That way we can all see what is happening.

[Bismarckbkk]

I understand some books do not have the finances to entertain that much staff to have A rated customer support reply times but if takes days to reply to general inquiries or perhaps no reply at all its a big red flag.

It means the sportsbook is run unprofessionaly, it cuts expenses that hurt the customer. It means that literally no one took a lot for days at that email.  Such books most likely do not keep customer funds segregated and use these funds for whatever.

I have been in the gambling world for a decade now ( for a living ) and I have never seen a company recover once they start falling apart. I have been saying the same for mtgox because of their withdrawal delays. A company with resolve and long term aspirations does not neglect things like customer communication and payout times.



Btw I requested withdrawal and got this email

" We have received your withdraw request. Typically withdraw requests are
processed within 15 minutes however due to the high amount of spam, withdraw
requests can take up to 5 hours to process depending on the time of day.  If you have
any questions, please email us anytime. "

As expected the withdrawal was not processed withing the 15 minutes . Will see if they can keep their 5 hour limit , I would be very suprised.

[alabamafan1]

They don't keep to their 5 hour withdraw window. Ever.

Funny, could of sworn the email I got yesterday said 4 hours.


Betcoinsports SHOULD NOT be a B book. They lie saying they have 10,000 customers daily and such. Impossible. Look at their hot wallet, generally 5-10 withdraws a day. Not anywhere near what it would be if it was 10,000. They lie, put up fancy banners and do not deliver in many aspects.

Someone signed up yesterday as a referral to me there and deposited 2.50 BTC. I was supposed to get 10% of their deposit as part of betcoinpartners but was told I'm only going to get 0.05 BTC and that I would get it today. Looking at my account today, there is no 0.05 (50 credits) in my account. Personally, I hate this book but they're the only one with decent live offerings. They really do suck.

If you email them, you get a response on average 6-12 hours later which is not okay.