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3541  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
If he is Satoshi then why can he not sign a Tx? It would take 1 minute and prove his claim with mathematics.  Roll Eyes  I mean really, I'm supposed to believe that the guy who gave us trust-less cash wants us to just trust his word without proof? 

Ironic:  Your signature line says:  "the gospel according to Satoshi," but then you show your faithlessness by demanding extraordinary proof.  I think you guys are gonna get more proof than you can bear soon.  Don't forget how badly you begged for it.  
3542  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is Satoshi? Why did he hide his identity? on: January 27, 2017, 12:14:25 PM

OP should add this thread cause it may answer your question in the next few weeks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1765953.0
3543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 11:14:46 AM

So you say that the guy has the private keys for a ton of money and he stays in debt instead of living a luxury life?
I don't understand this logic. Are you sure you didn't miss anything?

In my logic any sane man would have touched that money already. Unless he has lost - for whatever reason - the private keys or he's dead.

According to Wright, all those Bitcoins were put in a trust and he couldn't get to them for some time - which was part of some agreement.  It's been a while but I believe he was trying to find a way to get them back early.  My gut feeling is that he's gonna need them if he has any big plans for an alt-coin which means he probably found a way.  With enough money and connections any contract can be broken.  

It's best to be prepared by assuming a worst case scenario.
3544  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 11:10:05 AM


I don't hold BTC, technically it is a dead end. Writings been on the wall for over 6 months now.
The masses are a little slow to catch on, but they should figure it out in the next 12 to 18 months.  Wink

 Cool

Oh, if Wright is Satoshi and he moves to an alt then the sleeping masses are gonna catch on in the next few weeks. 
3545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 10:41:45 AM

Hmm,

Maybe Matonis and Gavin are not as smart as you think they are or maybe they just really wanted to believe it was him, so he could help end the rift that is splitting BTC between the Chinese miners and the BTC Core LN scammers.

If Wright can't move 1 BTC from Satoshi BTC Address, then he is not Satoshi.
The Fact the guy is in so much debt and Satoshi BTC would have him sitting pretty , tells you he is not Satoshi.
That is too much to dismiss.  Wink 

 Cool


Proving Wright is Satoshi wouldn't end by rift as both sides of the civil war are entrenched, well backed and determined.  What it would give them is leverage and a justifiable reason to successfully split Bitcoin which will only lead to a bigger war.

You have to ask if committing career suicide is worth that cause without a doubt if they knew Wright didn't have proof they would be found out.

As for how smart Gavin and Matonis are - all the real world evidence, before this ordeal, supports high intelligence and a well developed sense of discernment. 

Everyone here is assuming the improbable to be true which is senseless and financially dangerous if you hold Bitcoin.
3546  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 10:35:09 AM

You guys are all going around in circles refusing to think for yourselves.  

Look at the big picture of what's happening with Bitcoin and Wright.  Assume Wright will get his 400 patents.  With that in mind the intelligent move is to assume he is Satoshi which will only add to his influence over Bitcoin and the blockchain.

Once you use that premise then you can try to figure out which side of the big block civil war Wright is gonna fall on.

Cause if he is Satoshi and he holds 1+ million BTC and he decides to move to an alt then all you guys will wake up to a 90%+ drop in Bitcoin's price and then you're gonna act all surprised and broken hearted.

Aren't you all tired of being behind the curve?  Then stop following each other and try to think about what's coming next instead of gossiping about the past and letting your personal feelings get in the way.
3547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 09:46:52 AM

I would say he was close enough to Satoshi to be able to say certain stories. But he doesn't have the private key of the wallets.
Last time I've read that he was in quite a debt, so becoming Satoshi will bring him media coverage, attention, money...

But that doesn't explain how he fooled Matonis and Gavin.  Do you really think it would be so simple to do given their reputations and the gravity of the matter?  Again, it's highly improbable.

And there were other very reputable individuals who came out and said they met Wright as Satoshi years earlier.

Simply too much to dismiss. 
3548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 08:52:01 AM
Craig is NOT Satoshi, because he failed to present even the easiest kind of proof, that he controls any of Satoshis known Bitcoins PLUS he wasn't able to sign with Satoshis GPG key either.

Edit: I don't believe this "Gavin has been bamboozled" story AT ALL.

Yeah, Gavin and Matonis, and other incredibly smart people all got fooled by Wright.

And that's why Wright repeatedly keeps coming back into mainstrea media after so long.

Forget logic and deductive reasoning, instinct alone should tell you there's something more to this than meets the eye.
3549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 27, 2017, 08:44:33 AM

I hope Trump is as resilient as Jackson.

In addition to injuries sustained in duels and the bullet lodged in his lungs, by the time Jackson became president he had already gotten smallpox, osteomyelitis, malaria, dysentery, rheumatism, dropsy, "cholera morbus" (widespread intestinal inflammation), amyloidosis (a waxy degeneration of body tissues) and bronchiectasis (inflamed and dilated bronchial tubes), among other diseases. As a historian told TIME in 1949, “No structure ever endured under greater handicaps than the frame that supported the brain of the astonishing, the determined, the invincible gentleman from Tennessee."

Not to mention he also survived assasination attempts - albeit, by fate.
3550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 27, 2017, 08:15:15 AM

This might be just a coincidence but president Trump just hung a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office.  Out of all the presidents he chose the one that went to war with the banks and won.  This supports my theory that Trump is gonna bypass the Fed and go crypto. 



Trump!!!

I think president Trump is gonna pass some huge unexpected laws that will massively accelerate Bitcoin/crypto adoption.  And he's gonna do it early in his first term.

The Treasury is a department of the Executive Branch; thus, the President controls it.  People think this won't happen since that's what Kennedy tried and he went home early. 

But this time it's different.  Very different and I think this will be the route to mass adoption - to bypass the fed.  There should be a *cough* in there somewhere.  I'll let you figure that part out.

This is gonna get really really exciting when it finally happens.  ETF then Trump-time. 

Unworldly price run, which, BTW, is the real reason the Chinese exchanges just removed the margin leverage.
3551  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 08:06:20 AM

well you are either an enemy of scaling or decentralization, if no solution will ever come bitcoin will lose one of those aspect

while decentralization is the point of bitcoin, without scaling bitcoin will remain a niche market and thus centralized...oh the irony...

A settlement layer - slash - a store of value with an ETF license for tens of trillions of dollars is quite the niche market.
3552  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 07:42:13 AM
franky1 is now also an enemy of fungiblity and not just decentralization? color me surprised.

FWIW, rumor I'm hearing is that Wright is going to be the marketing face for some a new altcoin.   If anyone is selling futures on it, I'm interested in shorting it. Tongue

G to the Max, are you serious about this?  I don't care what anyone says about Wright, I'd take a risk on any coin he backs.  Seeing how Ver is about to split BTC wouldn't surprise me if Wright and Gavin move to the new alt called Bitcoin Unlimted.  The sky should be falling that fine day in Cryptoworld.
3553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 27, 2017, 07:22:57 AM

Breaking news: The Muppet Show binge-watch in 5 ..... 4 .... 3 ...

<when Vlad uncloaks he'll be like WTF!>

Dude, you just vomited all over my favorite fun thread. 
3554  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 12:49:20 AM

he isnt satoshi, he just didnt think the community would recognise the signature
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

as being a publicly available string of text for the last 7 years

he thought people wouldnt pick up on it so quick. so had to play backtrack
i feel sorry for all the investors he has conned

That is a weak argument given the intellectual caliber of the people he "conned".

The probability is quite high that he is Satoshi but the surprise unknown coder may shock people even more.  I hope so.  Smiley
3555  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi! on: January 27, 2017, 12:46:26 AM

he is not satoshi.
the article says "relates to craig wright"

which made me look back at the research rabbit hole of who first introduced craig wright at a conference a few years back.. that RELATED person being nick szabo..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

to re-open the can of worms of Szabo maybe being satoshi.
eg "nick got craig to play along as craig being satoshi, to take some finger pointing away from nick himself"
where the first finger pointing years ago was due to szabo's pre bitcoin 'bitcash' concept that inspired satoshi, years after bitcash was conceived.

but knowing coindesk is writing the article.. im sure the other old inspirations will mention adam back due to coindesks attachment to blockstream.

then a further 2 cents. adam back will proclaim he is satoshi, just so everyone should rush and buy into his LN commrecial hubs concepts...
blockstreams scripts are easy to predict.



and this is why craig wright fails the "who is satoshi"
he is into law and forensics and see's bitcoin being used
https://youtu.be/4GuqlQvFYJo?t=1m40s

satoshi hated the idea of identifying people/corporate marketing of data


Where in that video do you Szabo introducing Wright or having any relation to Wright?

And in your second video if you pay attention Wright talks about how one will be able to use things like apps to enhance privacy.  That's as good as you're gonna get in the world of blockchains - sorry if you actually drank the Roger Ver happy juice.  
3556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 26, 2017, 11:47:31 PM


Bahahahahahaaaa!!!

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[Coindesk] - Bitcoin is Abuzz With New Satoshi Nakamoto Rumors
Pete Rizzo (@pete_rizzo_) | Published on January 26, 2017 at 15:40 GMT NEWS

If the gossip at a recent invite-only bitcoin conference is any indication, news may be forthcoming in the long-simmering Satoshi Nakamoto saga.

On the sidelines of the two-day Satoshi Roundtable conference in Cancun, rumors were swirling that new developments in the 'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

This time, however, there is said to be a potential twist to the story relating to an unknown entity that may have a claim to the intellectual property created by that group.

Major news outlets are once again said to be conducting an investigation into the story, with releases coming out as early as next month.

---

I told you muppets last year that Wright was the guy.  You sad mortal worshippers nearly killed your own messiah.  How predictable.  Hope you guys are ready for an all out war cause I've always felt he was getting prepared to bring it. 

Bring it to me, Satoshi!!!
3557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 25, 2017, 10:14:15 PM

It was a no-fuckin brainer! All those fuckers have to do is provide definitive proof to theymos that JUST ONE of their accusations is a truism, and my scammy Dumb-ass with all my alts would be banned from this forum. It's not my fault that it's been going on for a year and a half now for them nefarious fucks to get their duckweed-feed ducks in a row so to accomplish such a relatively simply task. Hell, I even provided over 90% (.90% if you went to the same school as Leroy Fodor) of the work for them, yet here I's still are.

Back to Leroy Fodor, that lyin' piece of shit even called the Sandwich, IL, (where I used to live) police department to have them stop having me harassing him. I went to the PD so that they could show me exactly what laws I was violating with my posts about his scammy ass. They couldn't find anything, coupled with him living in the Philippines, the issue became moot, hence still sticking it up his fuckin ass. HAHAHA & Chuckles

So you work at a Sandwich shop?  haha, I've had worse, much worse jobs but I'm laughing cause I can see you like that soup Nazi guy, angry while making a meatball sandwich and cursing at scammers on the internets.  I'd like a short video of that.  lol

As for the Fodor guy, I can't keep up with all these scammers.  I'd like to know if Vern dumped all the IXC he stole. 
3558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 25, 2017, 08:59:40 PM

I'm always in need of a good laugh.  Had no idea you were terrorizing that Fedor guy for that long, or that you put your account on the line for it.  That's resolve.  Smiley
3559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 25, 2017, 06:54:55 PM

What is Qtum?  I didn't know Xi also meant joy. 

And why did the Chinese get to make up whatever names they wanted?  Star Xu?  Samson.  Another guy I saw was named Han Solo or something.  How is that fair for the rest of us?  I'm stuck with the name of a serial killer with an affinity for impaling Muslims en masse.  lol

But for real, China pretty much owns Bitcoin.  Besides the coders they can do whatever they please with Bitcoin including 51-ing it. 

The rest of us need to build out some 200+MW hyper farms to even things out.  Throw a billion my way and I'll make it happen, and I'll even 51 the entire place just to make a statement.   Grin



http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/



Question: Contrived?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture#Eight

Quote
The word for "eight" (八 Pinyin: bā) sounds similar to the word which means "prosper" or "wealth" (發 – often paired with "發財" during Chinese New Years, but is used alone or paired with numerous other "compound words" that have a meaning of luck or success, Pinyin: fā). In regional dialects the words for "eight" and "fortune" are also similar, e.g., Cantonese "baat3" and "faat3". The word is also phonetically similar to the word for a hundred (百), alluding to greater wealth. Note as well, this particular symbol matches the mathematical symbol of infinity. While Chinese does have other words for luck, this full understanding of luck that includes the infinity concept marries into a Chinese understanding of this particular word.

There is also a visual resemblance between two digits, "88", and 囍, the "shuāng xĭ" ("double joy"), a popular decorative design composed of two stylized characters 喜 ("xĭ" meaning "joy" or "happiness").

... ... ..

Similar to the common Western practice of using "9" for price points, it is common to see "8" being used in its place to achieve the same psychological effect. So for example menu prices like $58, $88 are frequently seen.

From the desk of Oh Woe is Me!:

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/star-xu/investments



3560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: January 25, 2017, 08:58:48 AM
Plan your knife catching accordingly, if you are into that sort of thing. I could still be wrong though https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg17614836#msg17614836

China time:(GMT+8)

January 27 (New Year's Eve)--Most shops close by the afternoon
January 28 (New Year’s Day)--No bank or government office is open. Only big shopping malls are open.
January 29 (Chinese New Year day 2)--Almost no bank or government office is open. Only big shopping malls are open.
January 30 (Chinese New Year day 3)--Some banks and government offices are open, but business is limited and hours are much shorter. Only some big shopping malls are open.

January 31 and February 1 (Chinese New Year days 4 and 5)--(The statutory holiday period is over. Some people will keep visiting friends and relatives; some will go back to work.)Most banks and government offices will be open, but business is limited and hours are shorter. Most shops will be open.

February 2 (New Year day 6)--Some shops, companies, and offices will reopen on this day, because 6 is a lucky number in Chinese culture.


Thanks, should be an interesting week for Bitcoin. 
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