My trust was so low I really wasnt sure they would give me a refund because I spoke up on my displeasure. Had I not been as disruptive as I was who knows if they would have given my money back, I quite literally did threaten to slander them up and down with the facts anywhere I could until I got my funds back (though I'll be doing that anyway). I've heard others got refunds but not without some effort.
I will know if they will make good in about 3 days, if so I can call myself free of their web of lies.
Slander != Facts. Stick to facts. |
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Poor little Charlie  * You "Told me" that it was impossible 2 weeks after we already pulled the item. Yes, you are on the ball man... thanks for your input and welcome to two weeks in the past. You are so confused, I'd feel sorry for you if I cared... but I don't. Josh, we know this is yet another lie coming from you. Clearly, you do care. Care enough to tell Jody to cancel my orders, care enough to advertise for Butterfly Labs here, and obviously care enough to post in these forums. |
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The best thing that Xian can do is follow through with this complaint....!!
These frauds can threaten and pretend to MIS-REPRESENT the law but .... what they have done will cost them dearly !!!
It's out of my hands at the moment, and hoping to hear back from the FTC and Missouri AG sometime soon. Based on information in this thread, I really should look into meeting with a consumer advocacy lawyer next week. |
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Herp... Derp! That's what it sounds like when you talk, dude. Maybe because the customer didn't want the order voided? Any customer has been able to cancel their orders at any time. Are you seriously so dense that you can't even figure out that if the people who ordered the 1500 GH/s units don't want 3x 500 GH/s units, they could get their money back? Seriously?
You are a joke dude. Josh you seem a little angry. You ok? I see Butterfly Labs has a solid contender for "COO-of-the-year". Is this the type of company and attitude you folks want to support in Bitcoin space ? |
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You are quite right, but one thing: A seller cannot cancel a contract of sale unilaterally. Such an action has very serious legal consequences, and if the reason for doing so is malicious (i.e., to retaliate for negative comments made on a forum), then I could easily see punitive damages being awarded in top of compensatory ones.
Hopefully the FTC and Missouri AG see it that way as well. What about small claims court? Not sure it's worth the hassle. Just glad to be done with Butterfly Labs as a customer to be honest. Will support other companies in Bitcoinia instead. |
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You are quite right, but one thing: A seller cannot cancel a contract of sale unilaterally. Such an action has very serious legal consequences, and if the reason for doing so is malicious (i.e., to retaliate for negative comments made on a forum), then I could easily see punitive damages being awarded in top of compensatory ones.
Hopefully the FTC and Missouri AG see it that way as well. |
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You're the smartest dude in the room you're in right now, of that I have no doubt. BTW, how is your mom's basement there in Boulder?
This right here is the COO of Butterfly Labs, folks. |
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Sorry Xian, it seems your thread has been taken over by the sockpuppet army.  Don't worry, it's pretty obvious that's what's going on. They're only whittlng away at what's left of BFL's already horrible reputation. It sure is a shit-show, huh ? |
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Wait a minute here... I am reprehensible for standing up for myself getting absolutely terrible treatment as an initial preorder customer over the last 11 months ? For enduring their COO acting completely unprofessionally on these forums and calling him on his behavior ?
I am sorry that you have such low self esteem and say "Why yes please, I would like some more un-lubed sodomy at the hands of Butterfly Labs for not being able to accurately state when my preorder will ship after waiting for 11 months of one broken promise after another."
Some of us have less tolerance for prolonged bullshit and fight for ourselves when we feel wronged.
I need to most strenuously disagree with your evaluation and you should feel ashamed that you are willing to be taken advantage of.
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Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ? Can you not read? I can read quite well in fact. I've read enough of your shilling to know there is nothing of substance or anything approaching a rational thought coming out of you in this thread. *adds another contestant to his ignore list* |
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Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ? |
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yours?
No. Yours. I look forward to you letting us know how many units you ship out this weekend. |
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This is exactly what Josh would have said/done. Date Registered: November 03, 2012, 11:21:57 AM Look at this dude's post history. Had to post today in Newbie to satisfy the ability to get outta jail to shill like a big boy in our sandbox. I'm sad to say, but if this is truly the game that BFL is playing oppose to spending their efforts on product development, then all them investors are in a rude awakening. The smell of desperation hangs thick in the air. |
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Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.
Lol .. calling a noob a noob.. you must feel so much better about yourself now. All of your 15 posts in one day. Very impressive. How long will this one last? A week? A month? I am sorry I missed your point ? I think you lost yourself in your noob rage .. Ivan, you have no right calling anyone a noob here considering your low post count. I thought you were smarter than you are letting on. I'm sorry to see you have drank so much of BFLs koolaid |
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A more apt analogy:
You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...
Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...
Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.
in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off. Except that I paid a lot of money to attend the club grand opening a year ago, and they threw me out for complaining about the lack of drinks and music when the DJ was laughing at all of us for paying the cover charge. |
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So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?
Ivan Frimmel ? Is that you ? |
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Just like everything else you spout, Charlie, this is also a lie. "I know Elon Musk personally" ahaha... yeah right. Sure, we believe you.
Sort of the same way we were supposed to believe you about shipping back in 2012 ? |
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BFL aside, for me, nothing about this seems to be sincere from xian. I'd agree with you on the apology issue otherwise. Instead, it seems like a venom filled immature tantrum thinly veiled as a PSA and an apology.
Give me a fucking break. Are you insinuating Josh has been mature or sincere over these last 11 months ? Go back to your fucking BFL shoutbox and reality distortion field. Seriously. Just fuck right off you sycophantic shill. Yet another tool to add to my ignore list. |
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