Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders

[int03h]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

Ivan Frimmel ? Is that you ?

No I am Sonny Vleisides.

[int03h]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

[k9quaint]

You are ignoring one thing...

Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't have to answer but I'd be interested...

No. I do mine, but I am not currently using Avalon, ASICMiner or BFL.

I should thank BFL for sucking up all the capital that would have gone to either Avalon or ASICMiner. That capital would have been converted to hashing equipment sooner and impacted the network hash rate (and thus my profits) sooner. BFL has put money in my pocket by being so late. Now that Avalon has dumped 400,000+ chips onto the market (plus around 90TH of mining units), it is unlikely that BFL will ship enough product to make a dent in the Bitcoin hash rate. My mining equipment has already paid for itself and is quite power efficient, so I anticipate just letting it run and earning whatever it earns.

The best situation for me is for BFL to trickle out a few units a week while holding onto all the capital that otherwise would go to Avalon or ASICMiner to be converted into hash rate. If I were looking out for my wallet, I should be encouraging people to put their capital in limbo via BFL preorders. BFL might deliver, but Avalon and ASICMiner will almost certainly deliver.

[bassclef]

A more apt analogy:

You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...

Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...

Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

[int03h]

A more apt analogy:

You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...

Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...

Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

[k9quaint]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

we're gonna hash like the well funded bitches we are.  

That's a quality comment - made me laugh

Hehehe I only slept an hour last night and I tend to just say what I mean

Did your daily Midnight to 2AM discussion with LukeJr go longer than expected last night?

Sonny "The Hash King" Vleisides would be proud.

Your getting boring now. . .do something to entertain me monkey man!

M'kay! Had to use my new crayons.

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No. I am explaining to you the current state of events.  You chose to disbelieve me, which is your prerogative.  It does not, however, make you correct.  You very rarely get ANYTHING correct, and this time is no different.  I honestly can't tell if it's from mental incapacity or you do it intentionally just because you like to stir up trouble.  So good on you for being so opaque that you are quite possibly indistinguishable from a monkey banging on a keyboard.

[k9quaint]

A more apt analogy:

You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...

Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...

Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

Smokes? You didn't buy them at the warehouse. They had no product.
Drink? You didn't buy it at the warehouse They had no product.
You wait for 11 months in the warehouse, then get bounced for complaining about the delays. They do refund your money.
Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

[Xian01]

A more apt analogy:
You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...
Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...
Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

Except that I paid a lot of money to attend the club grand opening a year ago, and they threw me out for complaining about the lack of drinks and music when the DJ was laughing at all of us for paying the cover charge.

[int03h]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

How am I the one that is deaf or blind?

I have made no claims except for pointing out that you use false equivalency to prove some bullshit logic that doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[nottm28]

A more apt analogy:
You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...
Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...
Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

Except that I paid a lot of money to attend the club grand opening a year ago, and they threw me out for complaining about the lack of drinks and music when the DJ was laughing at all of us for paying the cover charge.

There's complaining and there's complaining...

[EDIT] this is the guy who tell's people to fuck off if he doesn't like what they say

[k9quaint]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

How am I the one that is deaf or blind?

I have made no claims except for pointing out that you use false equivalency to prove some bullshit logic that doesn't make any sense at all.

Except you didn't, it wasn't, you haven't, I have, it does. Now run along and play.

[int03h]

Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.

[int03h]

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

How am I the one that is deaf or blind?

I have made no claims except for pointing out that you use false equivalency to prove some bullshit logic that doesn't make any sense at all.

Except you didn't, it wasn't, you haven't, I have, it does. Now run along and play.

Right I didnt, You did and continue to. do you get any better at this . .or is this it ? 

[k9quaint]

Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.

All of your 15 posts in one day. Very impressive.
How long will this one last? A week? A month?

[int03h]

Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.

All of your 15 posts in one day. Very impressive.
How long will this one last? A week? A month?

I am sorry I missed your point ? I think you lost yourself in your noob rage ..

[k9quaint]

I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under 

[int03h]

I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under  

You want to bet on that?

<EDIT> I don't understand because you don't make any fucking sense.. 

[k9quaint]

I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under  

You want to bet on that?

<EDIT> I don't understand because you don't make any fucking sense.. 

Go put a bet on a bitcoin betting site. I don't do anything without escrow that involves people who only have posts dated from today. 
Of course I don't make sense to you. Nothing I type will ever make sense to you.

[PuertoLibre]

The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.

Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

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The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.