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3581  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 18, 2013, 11:28:53 AM
They NEED your money to assemble batch #1.

Go give your hard earned to the Chinese but do not expect anything (except a headache) from them in return!
BFL is a revolving door.

Early adopters get out after waiting so many months with their money out of their pocket.

They give out refunds quickly and expediently because:

New customers fill their pockets with even more cash and end up replacing the older customers.

If the chips don't meet specs then, everyone runs out the door at the exact same time


 and you have a bASIC situation all over again. (Well, unless you have a large influx of new "customers" at least.)

Edit: I suspect there is a reason why Avalon never takes on more than a certain amount of risk in monetary value. I am starting to suspect it is due to insurance...or something like that.

If they probably took on more than they could cover in a claim, people might be shit out of luck. Do you see BFL doing that in their expensive process node? Perhaps they do?

<Shrug?>
3582  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC Store - BitSyncom on: February 18, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
@ Domrad/Bitsyncom

Whats the story behind this argument?

Domrad,
Did you change your mind after making a purchase? (Which Batch is your order from?)
3583  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch#2 Re-open tomorrow 2/18 on: February 18, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
In case anyone missed it:

3584  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 16, 2013, 06:51:56 AM
It's the weekend as promised, CNY is ending and shipping is going to resume shortly after, in the mean time before this we got organized ( not really organizing source code but things like how we didn't initially have the repos on github so there was other misc related work. )

Here are the source codes

https://github.com/BitSyncom/cgminer
https://github.com/BitSyncom/cgminer-openwrt-package
https://github.com/BitSyncom/avalon-extras
https://github.com/BitSyncom/luci
And Kano just lost one more thing to hide behind when it comes to his complaints.
3585  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 15, 2013, 04:43:59 PM
@ Kano

In the last page alone you re-established (just like before) that you wanted something from Bitsyncom.

You are throwing a tantrum every other page. Page 0 (I believe) was you commenting on sodomy being performed on Jeff Garzik because "you can't get him to do what you want him to do".

Page 1 through <too bored to flip through it> is about you pestering and harassing Bitsyncom. Around which point he tells you to "fuck off" more than once.

Every time you don't get your way your nasty side comes out. Especially if people don't do what you want or expect.

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You demand I fetch proof when you've already repeated (yet again) what you did half a moon ago. You are very episodic and cyclical.

At this point you are just using this thread to convince others of a different narrative of what happened:

That it didn't actually mean what you said....and which you readily reinforce every other page when you get pissed off.

Well, you'll probably convince at least yourself if you don't keep losing your temper and lose it every other page.You seem to have convinced Nathan. So you seem to be working your way to a delusional fabric.

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Look, if I just ask you very specific questions,and get very specific answers, I am pretty sure I can nail you on the points fairly easily. If you try to avoid being nailed, you'll either come out of it making very absurd contortions of your supposed meaning or you'll fail apically in the process.

3586  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 15, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
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In this context I was referring to his not very subtle demands
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Give me an ASIC for free because I code cgminer !
No ? fine I will throw an e-tantrum and slander you.

And yet again a fucking retard making up something that doesn't even exist.

You are arguing against me and implying shit about me based on delusions.
Seriously, not jokingly. You are delusional.

Where did I ever say that bullshit you quoted?
The answer is never.
Quote me or fuck off.

Fucking hell, a bunch of losers trying to make an argument against me, failing and then deciding to make shit up to cover the fact that they are indeed a bunch of losers with no argument.
At least quote something real.

Damn, I've seen people quote me and remove content to make it seem different to what I said.
At least they had the intelligence to actually quote something I said (even if it was out of context).

But again, seriously, making up shit and implying I said it - total fail and total delusion.
Sort of an Inaba-ism.

Step 1: Quote me or it ain't true!

Step 2: Then someone quotes it.

Step 3: Respond by saying something akin to "Uh! But! I didn't actually mean what you quoted! You are misinterpreting my words! This is what I actually meant you <insert expletives here>."

3587  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 15, 2013, 05:54:57 AM
PuertoLibre, wrong tape. Use right one:

3588  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 15, 2013, 05:35:14 AM
...
Kano just "re-frames" his previous tune when it suits him and "re-spins" prior history when he starts to look bad in context.
...
Show one example of each of those 2 lies you posted ... one ... just one ... not two, not three ... just one of each.
Can't find them? Yes now you understand why I think you are a complete lying piece of shit Smiley
No, you "poser". I don't have to lie. You said so quite clearly several times. Other people have quoted you before.

Spin is not the basis of an argument.

Basically all you are saying is that if you were in my situation you would be demanding Avalon to be giving you something.

I haven't done that ... any where ... any time.
You are correct, you didn't "demand" you stated you wouldn't be coding for the Avalon (at the time) if you didn't receive any hardware.

When I confronted you about this and told you to pay for it, you had plenty to say about why you didn't think you should. Case closed.

Then you went on a limb, posturing about how you don't believe you should code "for free".

When I put forth the idea that you could make a repayment you avoided the idea with a retort as to why "you think" you should be "compensated".

Every argument you stood behind was about getting free hardware without any payment.

You then went on another limb that "donated" hardware was cheaper than paying a programmer.

Do you see your angle in the grand scheme of things?
 
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Your later hostile attitude followed your [apparent] realization that you weren't going to get your way. Followed by BitSyncom asking you to "fuck off" a few times. (Primarily because you kept pestering him about that and the source code.)


In the past (a year ago) I received an Icarus from ngzhang after helping xiangfu to solve the problems he had to get the Icarus code to work.
After I found out he was really sending it to me, I offered to buy (and paid full price) for a 2nd one, since he was giving me one.
Seemed fair that he would still make some money out of me ... and I could 'just' afford to buy the 2nd Icarus.
I've also bought a (full price) Icarus DevKit from him much later ... to get the jTag cable.
That is nice of you.

But every instance where you have been approached with the idea of purchasing hardware in the last month has been rejected for one reason or another.

Including the idea of paying back the hardware by the coins it generated.

So your past actions has little relevance with your present attitude.

The (only) other person (so far) who has supplied me with a mining device is Tom from bASIC.
He sent me an MMQ which I said (before he sent it) that I'd pay for it with the results of the mining from the ASIC device he was going to send me (yeah I can't afford to buy stuff Tongue) I have since pretty much completely rewritten the MMQ code in cgminer, so that it actually works (which the code didn't) and is second to none in performance and error handling. I've even again this week done more critical work on the MMQ driver (all that possible since I actually have one)
The first point to make is that the MMQ is an FPGA device. It is the older generation and therefore we are again talking about the past.

Now, I fully understand you are unable to buy hardware. Okay, I get it and respect your situation.

There are viable alternatives you could hash out with each company to pay for the devices at either a [possible] discount rate or through the [possible] BTC generated by the device once it is in your hands.

These are all ideas that didn't sit well with you. You made it positively clear you don't want that. (You may perhaps change your mind in the future, who knows?)

For the last 2 months I've been writing the basis of a new USB interface in cgminer (no doubt it will need more work and improvement in the future) so that when ASIC devices do finally appear, I can ensure that I can write a driver as quickly as possible so that when the devices are shipped, they will have cgminer support.
I've ensured that by already rewriting the MMQ and BFL FPGA drivers to use it.

Alright.

Yes of course I will never begrudge receiving BTC for mining with the devices I am given - why would I?
I don't begrudge it coz I know I will spend a lot of time and effort (as I have over the last year and do almost every day) working on improving and supporting cgminer.
Now you want "compensation". I have mentioned before that if you want to be compensated then you  should perhaps seek a contract with the vendors.

Not an "implicit" contract, but a very clear and outlined one.

If a company is not willing to play ball, you seem to resort to maligning them. (disguised as other issues.)

Even when the Avalon device first showed up, I was interested in helping that person with it - but oddly enough he was quite antagonistic about me helping ... which eventually I said I wouldn't any more (though I did).
It was indeed amusing to see the screen generated by my code to prove the performance of the Avalon.
I think you are missing the point of open source software.

You give and commit to it freely. If you are looking to use it as a form of implicit hardware exchange, then perhaps you should re-evaluate your goals.

Once Avalon releases the source code you won't have much to begrudge. I doubt that will stop you though.

This is what I've done and been doing.
Don't telling me I have your crappy values and ideals - I don't; and anyone, including the clearly corrupt piece of shit Jeff Garzik, who thinks they want to say my ideals match their crappy, shit ideals can go fuck themselves.

Your wrapper is coming off.

Here is some tape to hold it together:



You are clearly conflicted. You want people to believe one thing about you in your posturing, but in every other page you reinforce exactly what is being pointed out about you.

Don't slam Jeff, he paid for his hardware. Have you?
3589  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A letter from Avalon on: February 14, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
Day 24 after shipping: 12 x 24 = 288 units should have shipped by now.
3590  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC on: February 14, 2013, 08:52:24 AM
It is probably because he was touched by someone sending him a wool sweater. A bit of kindness goes a mighty long way.
3591  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC on: February 14, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
3592  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: February 13, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Because I am a complete noob when it comes to the low-level hardware production process...

I know that multiple chips are "placed" on a wafer.

What exactly is done at the bumping facility - is this the part where they put the chips in a "package" with the pins? or am i way off.

I would really like to understand the process so i can understand what the timeframe might be.

Thanks!

From what I understand, it is where they place solder (or similar substance) bumps on the pads on the edges of the silicon to prepare the die for packaging the chips.
3593  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 13, 2013, 11:32:40 PM
The irony,
Kano won't support code if he doesn't get entitled to "free" hardware. Yet he bashes someone else who did fork over money to support hardware.

Very Ironic, don't you think?

I've noticed a few leaps of logic in this thread. In particular:

"I'll support it if I get hardware" -> "I won't support it if I don't get hardware" -> "I expect to be expected to support it" -> "I expect to receive hardware"

Every leap is logically fallacious.
Read back and you'll see there is no "leaps in logic".

Kano just "re-frames" his previous tune when it suits him and "re-spins" prior history when he starts to look bad in context.

As others have noted, he is pretty transparent about it. Now if you [nathan] want to aid him in a con, be my guest. You may find some who haven't read the previous posts but will support the re-spins of previous posts "written in a 'hard to understand' context".
3594  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 13, 2013, 11:29:00 PM
...
The irony,
Kano won't support code if he doesn't get entitled to "free" hardware. Yet he bashes someone else who did fork over money to support hardware.

Very Ironic, don't you think?
The only irony is that you can't read and think that because you can't read it's ok to make stupid comments Tongue

I've already stated I'll be the one who will help Xiangfu update (rewrite) the cgminer code to what it should be when he finally gets an Avalon ...
Yeah I know I'm only gonna do that coz Avalon gave me a free Avalon ... oh wait ... what? ... hmm ... now why would I do that ... they didn't give me anything ... damn you mean I didn't help him back at the beginning of Jan when he first asked me about the driver he was writing?
But yes with Xiangfu, I'll have no issue with helping him even though that will in effect be helping Avalon ... now if I could just find a way around that Tongue
Oh, it sounds like you have made a commitment. Lets see if you stick to that.

If only we could get you to tone down the sodomy comments. That would be almost respectable.
3595  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 13, 2013, 11:12:36 PM

You may like to take it up the ass and say thank you ... I won't.

I have already clearly point out about the gpl-violations website with links - so yeah your not providing anything new to the discussion except more bending over and saying please insert.

I guess you also missed the fact that GitSyncom said the timeline was to have the source available almost a week ago ...

What is a "Git"?

Click the link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git

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A reminder about extending courtesy:

The one thing I don't understand in all this flameage is why Jeff Garzik isn't championing the request for source from Avalon. Jeff?

After certain people made that task considerably more difficult?  It is difficult to summon the motivation.  Ask again in 30 days...



The one thing I don't understand in all this flameage is why Jeff Garzik isn't championing the request for source from Avalon. Jeff?

After certain people made that task considerably more difficult?
Awwww ... it's more difficult to ask now? ... for the source that was available at least 24 days ago?
I guess that means all this sucking up to Avalon has caused continuous deterioration of your brain over the last 24 days and it's getting more difficult to join all those big words of more than 3 letters together.

Moral of the story (stated clearly by Jeff, violated in all senses of the word by Kano):



Or free hardware requests disguised as political statements Smiley

If any of these teenagers like kano had a clue about pursuing GPL violations, they would understand that going straight to curse words and screaming accusations is logically less likely to produce the source code in a meaningful amount of time.  It is also less likely to produce long term cooperation, as it creates a hostile environment at the start of the relationship.

Don't ask for code with one hand, and call the other person a cock sucker, an anal rapist/sodomist, AND a money whore by receiving a discount on their own money used to purchase their own hardware!
3596  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC on: February 13, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
(2) What is the estimated collective amount of the claims, or how to determine this? (a lawyer would probably want to know this)
Update: Poll indicates at least $609,500 taken.

@||bit `Stolen` better describes the situation. We will never see our money back but I'll say revenge will be sweater.
is it made of wool?
3597  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Kano vs Bitsyncom on: February 13, 2013, 10:45:22 PM
The one thing I don't understand in all this flameage is why Jeff Garzik isn't championing the request for source from Avalon. Jeff?

After certain people made that task considerably more difficult?
Awwww ... it's more difficult to ask now? ... for the source that was available at least 24 days ago?
I guess that means all this sucking up to Avalon has caused continuous deterioration of your brain over the last 24 days and it's getting more difficult to join all those big words of more than 3 letters together.

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It is difficult to summon the motivation.
Difficulty finding the  motivation to stand up for OpenSource?
Hmm ... I guess that makes it pretty clear where you stand against OpenSource.

A Bitcoin dev who can be easily bought with a 25BTC 'donation' ... and ditch OpenSource as easily as that ...
Doesn't say much for Bitcoin devs ...

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Ask again in 30 days...
Not sure if anyone else was expecting that, but I certainly am not surprised at all.
You certainly have no respect from me regarding you blatant lack of support for OpenSource - though I'm certain that doesn't concern you.
But again, I'm not surprised, you were paid off to do it and did it for cheap.
The irony,
Kano won't support code if he doesn't get entitled to "free" hardware. Yet he bashes someone else who did fork over money to support hardware.

Very Ironic, don't you think?
3598  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC on: February 13, 2013, 09:52:42 AM
http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field

They will ask you a number of questions and take down you information and provide you with a phone number. Sometimes they will provide you with a number to the field agent in charge (or assigned) to your case.

Use it only as a last resort. Exhaust all options _first_ before using this one.

P.S. Keep in mind, depending on the nature of your [stated] case, they may send someone first and if there is something worthwhile they may perform a search and seizure of property. That may actually work against you in some ways, so keep that in mind.
3599  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A letter from Avalon on: February 13, 2013, 01:25:59 AM
3600  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: February 13, 2013, 01:12:47 AM
Point is, they (BFL) short changed and shafted their customers. Giving discounts to some and a big FU to the September till now customers.

You don't have to be a genius to see that.
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