Hi Dave,

Since delivery is imminent, is it possible that prior to shipping you can point us to some instructions on the miner software and installation process for whatever m-board versions you'll be shipping out?
 I'd love to start learning how to set up the miner using p2ppool or something else prior to receiving my kit.
Otherwise, in the absence of any official information, some rumors and potentially misguided instructions are currently floating around on how to set up the kits.

Thanks

Haha! What part of "IF" in the following sentence you don't understand?

"We would like to state that ****IF***** any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.ThanksKnCMiner Team "

So they WILL if competitors add large amounts of hashing power in those months. Nothing to debate.

We are talking about gold mining. This is not a good time to distract Dave from hard core operations by nickel and diming your shovel insurance guys. :p

Now that you guys are caught up with answers that were already provided before, had you read previous posts, :-)  let me ask Dave again, any chances of getting m-boards v2.2 for August? (boards that DO NOT require the custom screw terminals adaptors but simply plugging in to PSU using a standard cable).

Hi Dave,

Do you still see any chances to ship M-boards v2.2 for the first batch of August orders? Are there any benefits of that board compared to v1 other than not requiring the custom power adapters?

Dude, are you blind to the word "perhaps" ? No reason to feel offended or take it personal. Read that sentence again. My point is that I was doing darn good due diligence in pretty decent colo places.
I'm sure there are better places somewhere else though. There always are. I hear Europe has even better ones due to lack of seismic activity in some areas. Isn't there where Wikileaks hosts its servers? :-) Anyway...

Yup, I do know it's not final but having to bring my own electrician to add 30 or 50 amp circuitry is my Plan C or D. I doubt Xcrowd would mainly depend on this as the bulk of its Olympus customers or hope that "institutional" investors gamble  $28k-$44k+ just in hosting alone plus at least 30% deposit before they even know if there's any ROI. That'd be kind of stupid, wouldn't it?
With their lower product lines this issue is much much less, which is counter-intuitive because this is supposed to be their flagship product and the one that should be more efficient. Until they show decent specs and not from the 50's, this product remains as NOT even suitable for colo.

You can fantasize and have any amount of orgasmic dreams about conspiracy theories of having double accounts and all that ip address crap and it's good to know that you find something unlikely but in the end...who cares about opinions. It's all about facts.

My research is based on actual calls with the best colocation providers in the US and perhaps even the planet. Find the same info yourself unless you feel lazy enough to not do your own research. I do spend significant time doing investment projects due diligence. Whether you consider that FUD or not, nobody gives a shit. Facts are facts and if xcrowd is so insecure about its final product design that it had to mega-inflate  its own specs to be on the safe side, guess what? That "safe side" is killing ROI in real terms whether anyone feels FUDish or not. Couldn't care less about that. Argue with facts, that's what you should be spending your time on.

Yes, they definitely earn the "MOST STUPID PRODUCT DESIGN EVER" award.

Here are a few email responses from colocation service providers I've been trying to get a quote. And I live in high-tech California!!!:

"The issue is that server would not fit into any of our cabinets or racks, they are all 19” wide."   

****

"I sent the specs of your server to our sales engineer and he informed me
that your server is too big to even fit into a full cabinet and you
would need about 50Amps of power which is a lot. You have a very large
piece of equipment and might need a custom cabinet in order to host it
in a data center.

Unfortunately we would not be able to help you. "
*******

"I'm sorry but in your case we'd have to create a custom cabinet for that and we'd have to charge you at least $4000-$5000 per month given your very large power consumption and space required"

*******

Hmmm...He probably meant adding that shipping option to the **European** site. I fail to find it in the US website.
Anyone knows how to set the shipping option in the US website??

Please, please, please do seriously work on your product design. It's not that I can't afford spending the money on an Olympus to place it in a colo facility. Is that I already called a few colo service providers and not only did they almost laughed at me like" "Wow! What kind of massive server is that?" but also gave me an obscene quote that eats a massive share of my potential profits that makes it no more profitable than lower-end product lines or as profitable as other competitive products.

It's ok to design "cool-looking" yet less efficient products if they are entry-level. However, for the high-end product line I see absolutely no need to waste so much space and resources, you want to be super efficient in space and weight as well. I think you should seriously attempt to slash volumetric space by at least a factor of 3-4 and weight by a factor of 10. Otherwise, you are putting your products at a huge competitive and value disadvantage in relation to other companies that have much more efficient product designs and also puts yourself in unnecessary extra burden with shipping and customs logistics. And this is supposed to be your flagship product. Thanks.

Even if you were able to sneak it, it's stupidly designed to leave a crater in your garage, lol!! I mean BFL is into the doorstep business so XC decided to enter into the cool yet hulking mini-bar business? Something's messed up.

Yup. Uber ridiculous. It's not like the product design for a fridge  that at least will sit in my house for full 5-10 years . This crap goes to the dumper in 1 year after mining so what company cares about spending so much $$ on temporary 'blade center' technology crap. They should also include a heavy duty, complimentary dolly with it.

OMG!!! Are those dimensions a freaking joke??
80 Kgs?? That has to be the most f'ing ridiculous miner ever!

Bitfury packs 400 Gh/s in a tiny fraction of that ubermonster. Your kid could even lift 5 of those kits with one hand and yes, those are blade-design too.
There's no colo service on earth that would take that ridiculous Olympus nuclear reactor and still profitably mine with the associated colo expenses.
How many units of rack space is that? like 37???!!!

In other words, it's impossible to make money with this crap if you can't even mine with it at home. On the other hand, if you want hosted services they ask for a nonsense terabillion as a minimum.
I'm NOT interested in their low-end products so please don't even offer me that option.
I mean I could also get 5 Monarch PCI cards from BFL and that's 3TH! that I can pick up with one hand.

Is there another way to make this work? I was about to spend money on 1 or 2 of these but this product is begging not to be purchased :-/
Worst turn off ever! I really hope I'm missing something or that I'm having a nightmare and those are just mock specs when I wake up!!

That's not true in regards to the 400 Gh rig power requirements. Please read post #973 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251966.960

Xcrowd,

Your website is dropping the following text in the Payment section depending on how you navigate to the anchored links. This is the text being dropped:

"Better yet, all our first 200 orders are fully refundable with no questions asked and processed within 48 hours. Later customers would be able to request refunds between 15-10-2013 to 15-11-2013.
Escrow terms -


Bulk shipping start date - 20-12-2013
20% of total orders to be shipped per week
Individual deliveries sent out according to order list of confirmed order.
Inspection period after delivery - 5 days

Escrow release terms -

Individual customer confirms delivery of a working unit
Bulk refund if we fail to start bulk ship before 15-12-2013
Individual refunds if orders are not fulfilled within 6 weeks of bulk shipping start date.
Registered companies based in the US or UK can apply for financing for orders over $50,000. Depending on your application we would be able to offer you a range of terms and rates through our financing partner HSBC. Like all our orders, these funds will also be placed in an escrow account until delivery. You would be able to simply choose financing at checkout and a representative will get in touch with more details if your application can be accepted."


In addition, the whole "Difficulty Insurance" tab and section is completely dropped depending on how you navigate through some of the anchored links as well.

Ok. So, to be exact, Ascraeus comes with 5 (750Gh/s)and Olympus with 8 blades (1200 Gh/s), right?

So if I place an order for the Ascraeus, does it come with any blades or that's just the enclosure??

There's something weird about the power consumption.

It says it's 1.6w/Gh yet for Olympus 18 150 Gh/s blades should be 4,320W but the box says it's 5,000W. Same with the lower bound. Power consumption figures don't add up.

Given the proximity to shipping time, I still don't see the shipping options in "My Account."  I thought there were going to be a few available to choose from.