That sounds like a wonderful scenario, ... The central banksters don't play by the illusory rules of "democracy" that our "elected leaders" supposedly play by. They've been in this for many generations and are not about to give up their monopoly on currency without a fight.
Now that is true, they will fight but they will also be very busy with their own fight as not all of the Central Bankers are on the same side. The Central Bankers of countries with the lack of natural resources, high numbers of jobless and social programs to fund are in deep shit and are on one side. The Central Bankers of the countries with the natural resources often have little of no social programs to fund, resources to sell or manufacture with and are on the other side. One of the only things keeping the whole of this together is the nuclear arsenal of the West and the Western Central Bankers payment system that ties every other country into the $ by forcing the PetroDollar exchange but that system has and will continue to erode as other payment systems are and will be used such as the latest PetroGold exchanges that have occurred. The addition of virtual currency exchanges just accelerates the process. |
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you wont need to. OC will pay the import duty when it's delivered to him. He'll then ship to you via special delivery.
Yep I understand that, all I am saying is that unless there is a reasonable price difference between OC and Sushi's I will stand at the door and pay the money. |
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Not forgetting... if OutCast3k imports say... 100 ant miners in 1 go, he'll be able to negotiate a good price, pay import duty once, and as normal, pay VAT (like everyone would have to).
Better still, when you order one, it arrives to your door without having to piss around.
Having to pay the UPS man the VAT at the door is not too difficult, he even takes cards. |
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Need the price to come down some Sushi. 2.75 for returning customers???
Assuming another batch of 300 it could make 2.95 just by removing the freebies for the lucky 25th, 100th, etc |
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I am interested but the price including delivery would have to be less than Sushi's
Outcast has to pay vat it won't end up being cheaper then sushi Anyone that imports anything into the EU would also have to pay VAT and import duty also. So in theory, if they order from me or sushi, their final bill should still end up being roughly around the same price, or maybe even slightly cheaper if we get a bulk order in... Import duty, yes, that would be the same, are you registered for VAT? I'm not registered for VAT, I'm not a registered company, so no. But it makes no difference, their will be a 20% VAT charge when you import something from outside the EU. You are right there is no difference as the Import Duty is Zero rated, both would have to pay VAT so they should end up being the same price. Yours could be slightly cheaper depending on how you can work out the shipping with Bitmain. |
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I am interested but the price including delivery would have to be less than Sushi's
Outcast has to pay vat it won't end up being cheaper then sushi Anyone that imports anything into the EU would also have to pay VAT and import duty also. So in theory, if they order from me or slush, their final bill should still end up being roughly around the same price, or maybe even slightly cheaper if we get a bulk order in... Import duty, yes, that would be the same, are you registered for VAT? |
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I am interested but the price including delivery would have to be less than Sushi's
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Sounds good. Are you sure that would be enough though? Is there such a type of backup plan already? Or is it just one of the obvious things that could be done in response? I mean, how fleshed out is this idea?
The ACME Act would also make pool operators outlaws, in the same way someone operating a US Dollar printing press would be (other than the Fed).
Would the Pool Operators need to reveal their identities when issuing the self-signed SSL certs? How could Pool Operators remain hidden?
The ACME Act is only in the US, the US is not the centre of the universe. There are 6.5 billion other people on this rock, some 92% of the population who are not US. So the US outlaws US Pool Operators and miners but the rest of the planet will continue. The Pool Operator doesn't need to reveal their identity, they just generate a self-signed cert for an IP address or URL, you as a miner add their public certificate to your certificate store and now your browser trusts them and can setup and SSL channel. To break it you will need to crack either their or your own private key. Alternately and even better would be the use of a Bitcoin address as part of the miner code that communicates with the pool as Bitcoin which already has an equivalent public and private addresses built in which are essentially the same as public and private certificates or keys, technically it would be very easy to do. Remember, we're talking future worst-case scenario here. I wrote that the UNSC member states also adopted ACME, and we can imagine that they would be pressuring non-member states to go along with its provisions under subtle threat of violence (because not complying would make them part of the "threat to the world economy"). I guess the key is not so much getting around the restrictions, for that is easy from a technological standpoint. What's harder is to avoid losing too many users. We can't ask the average user to "just switch to port 80" or something like that. Software updates should be as simple as possible... I'd say they should be automatic by default. Okay let's say that the 5 permanent members of the council do so. France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, and the United States propose it and the then current temporary members are forced to accept. If they do that then all ASIC's miner manufacturing will stop in those countries and rise in others, think Middle East, Southern Africa, South America, AsiaPac. Trade using virtual currencies between those countries will happen with greater frequency as it is easier to do so than use the banks in the majority of the smaller countries, even if you pay all local taxes, it also bypasses the majority of the existing banking systems, the countries are now split in two. Soon oil and resources are traded in the virtual currency trading block. China who needs the 3rd world resources has the gold to pay with, so does India. The Western countries excluding Russia have no resources left, Russia has its own oil and gas. Within a few years the Western countries will either get cold or join the virtual currency trade block. That's my guess of the end state of your scenario. |
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Many if's and could's. I guess if they would have a Rack Design they would advertise, as they advertise the ant monthes ago. But hey, let's just wait and maybe: surprise surprise!  Well whatever they are doing it is not this time, Sushi has just announced another Group Buy. |
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I hope you guys realize, that 55nm chips are out of date 2014 (tmr)? I guess there is no reason for bitmain, to planning anything with this old ant chips. Time for develope new 28nm chips.
I hope you realize, that at these competitive prices and shipping IMMEDIATELY, who the hell cares. I'll keep buying them as they stomp the competition by actually offering product. There is no way of "shipping IMMEDIATELY" a new designed rack. So if they invest another 3-4 week to design, we have february 2014. Time for the new Black Arrow/KNC/Bitmine Racks...and Bitmain would be hopeless out-dated. Times run fast dude. Your assumption is that they have not already started a design.....what if they started doing it last October, are you ready for the aggressively priced 600GH/s, 1200W Antminer S2, got to get rid of these 55nm chips, could be next week for all we know. I suspect that they are already working on a 28nm chip in the background, I would be if it was my company. I would launch it the same way and swap the market again. |
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Sounds good. Are you sure that would be enough though? Is there such a type of backup plan already? Or is it just one of the obvious things that could be done in response? I mean, how fleshed out is this idea?
The ACME Act would also make pool operators outlaws, in the same way someone operating a US Dollar printing press would be (other than the Fed).
Would the Pool Operators need to reveal their identities when issuing the self-signed SSL certs? How could Pool Operators remain hidden?
The ACME Act is only in the US, the US is not the centre of the universe. There are 6.5 billion other people on this rock, some 92% of the population who are not US. So the US outlaws US Pool Operators and miners but the rest of the planet will continue. The Pool Operator doesn't need to reveal their identity, they just generate a self-signed cert for an IP address or URL, you as a miner add their public certificate to your certificate store and now your browser trusts them and can setup and SSL channel. To break it you will need to crack either their or your own private key. Alternately and even better would be the use of a Bitcoin address as part of the miner code that communicates with the pool as Bitcoin which already has an equivalent public and private addresses built in which are essentially the same as public and private certificates or keys, technically it would be very easy to do. |
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I got my Bitmain today and it looks like a 5 year-old was in charge of putting on WAYYY to much thermal paste and it leaked through the boards to the chips. Thermal Paste got EVERYWHERE WTF do i do?  Don't power it up, just clean the extra paste off with alcohol wipes such as a screen clean wipe, dry and then power up. |
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Say the USG calls an "emergency" meeting with the UNSC and they all agree that Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are now the "largest threat to the world economy"... They adopt as a UN Resolution the American proposal "Anti-Counterfeiting Measures Emergency Act of 2014". So each member nation-state has to legally "force" ISPs to "log and discard" all packets that match certain strings.
What happens then? Would it be the end of Bitcoin? The end of cryptocurrencies? What's the response of the Bitcoin dev team?
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Not beyond the whit of man or even a good techhie  All the virtual coin currencies would move to port 80 with SSL enabled with the Trusted Root SSL certificates self singed and issued by the Pool Operators. Traffic can be relayed via some other country to stop host countries knowing what server is a pool server. |
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I haven't tried for a non-US address, but I would assume it is worldwide. UPS asks for a country when you first visit the site. Hence, it is asking me for my US-based address since that's what I selected.
No, this is currently US. Where do you see the tracking info in myups (if you are from US). Once you signed up if theirs any packages underway to your address added to profile it will alert you. Just gt off the phone with UPS they advised once you signed up to the site and you put your address details in, any packages that are incoming to you on that day or day befor you will get an alert on your account or email advising you of it and if needed will phone you to make arrangements or payments on import tax.... This is UK tho but more than likely to follow same sort of thing. You can also call them and ask if their any packages inbound to you. I am in the UK and signed up for a My UPS a few weeks ago, it has my address listed but does not show and inbound parcels unless I add a tracking number. If you manage to get it working I would be interested in how you did it. Next week I will open a UPS Shipping Account and see if that makes a difference. |
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I haven't tried for a non-US address, but I would assume it is worldwide. UPS asks for a country when you first visit the site. Hence, it is asking me for my US-based address since that's what I selected.
No, this is currently US. |
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I would love to get this as well... I bet you could mount 3 in the frame, Run a EVGA 1300w or greater and you would be fine
you would not have any OC headroom with that though. it may be easier and cheaper to go with 2x800W PSUs and have each run 1.5 antminers overclocked to 200GH Actually, I have 2 OC'ed running on that PSU right now, only pulls ~800W from the wall. 3 Non-Oced is pulling ~1075, so I might be able to do 3 OC'ed. so an OC'd unit draws roughly 400W at the wall for you? I wish there were some more concrete numbers for power draw at 400MHz since some people said its over 500W. (400W at the wall indicates around 360W on the 12V rail only, right? (80% efficiency) Ive got a PSU coming tomorrow thats got about 700W on its 12V rail and Im wondering whether it would support 2 non-OC'd units or not. (at least once i bring down the overclock in a month or two to improve effficency and reduce heat output) I found a huge difference between a crap generic PSU (600w thermaltake) and the 80+ gold and plat PSUs. 1 Ant non OC on the 600w- 456w at the wall 1 Ant non OC on the 1300w Plat - ~325 at the wall. I agree with this, two Ants on a single CoolerMaster 1050W that pulls 815W at the wall whilst both are at 375MHz. Before just a single Ant was pulling 450W at the wall without OC using twin Corsair 450W supply's. It doesn't pay to power these with cheap PSU's. |
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The writer has not understood that a coin does not have a fixed value. The user of the second coin would only be able to buy $450 worth of anything, the value of the first coin would remain at $500. |
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Pre ship! this is the way a business should work  Well done sushi Yet another good group buy! Sushi is going to have to surpass himself to improve his service, quicker tracking numbers would be helpful as last time it got delivered before I got the tracking number so how about delivery before payment as an improvement, that would be faster  |
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Hi, I believe this question has been asked before by someone else but there was no solution. I ordered a 7950 and a 280x. Because 7950 likes -g 1 and 280x likes -g 2 then can't I run two instances of cgminer to make full use of both cards?
Has anyone else tried this? Thanks
Yes it has and you can just point each instance to a different configuration file but remember to use -d to select the correct device and -remove-disabled to ignore the other devices for each instance of cgminer. |
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WWAN not accepting remote login the eth1(WAN) setup fine, luci & SSH login fine. I set additional Wifi(WWAN) & firewall(WAN/WWAN), the internet link is fine & hashing can confirm by pool. how ever I can not get login if only wifi is connected. both web page (luci) & ssh login did not have response from antminer. anyone have idea?  I have no idea, but if it's any consolation, myself and others have run into similar behavior with the WWAN interface. I've not been able to properly configure the WWAN's on any of my Antminers  Afraid I'm going to hose the network settings and not be able to get back into the device if I screw something up while troubleshooting Seeing the same as you; not able to access config over WIFI, only via WAN. I have a couple of the next batch of Antminers on order that I understand now have a factory reset button - I'll troubleshoot further once I have that safety net available. Same problem, although I have found that wrt doesn't like having both wireless and Ethernet on the same subnet but even with different subnets the problem still occurs. in case you miss my update, my wifi/WWAN login did works (back to live) after I power-off and power-on cycle. but seems using REBOOT command(ssh) or bottom(web UI) would not enough. I have tried with a power cycle, and did it again just in case I screwed it up first time, I just end up timing out at the Lua LuCi Interface black screen before you can login. Would you care to share your /etc/config/network file? I am currently under eth1, maybe later by PM. another hint, I found that I need to apply hostname of WIFI interface to make my router always assign same ip for antminer. Thanks for the PM. Your network config file is far simpler than mine, I will try it later as there is nothing in it that should cause any problems but I want to prove that I can reset the Ant to default and always be able to get to it. |
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