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A remeber Coinabul from a long time ago and made a trade on January the 29th before reading their latest reviews on this forum. They haven't sent the item, nor sent me a tracking code nor replied to any of my emails since making the order. Coinabul should be branded a scammer on this forum IMO.
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Worst case they'll force you to put it back, which again takes no time or money.
Incorrect. Likely case is they make you pay for their licensed electrician to come in and put it back at whatever rate the local union charges. Even worse is the house burns down and the fire marshal sees your "mod" and declares it your fault causing the landlords insurance company to back out and point at you. But, enough fear mongering  What you have is a nema 10-30 plug. Commonly known as an "old dryer plug". There is no easy way of safely converting it to a nema 6-30 unless someone ran four wires to the box and only hooked up 3. But looking at the vintage of that plug I would consider that unlikely. That outlet has two lives and a neutral. There is no ground. Don't get me going on how someone could come up with a design that has a 110/220 volt appliance in a laundry room that is not grounded ... that's another story. The "correct" thing would be to upgrade that plug to a "new dryer plug" which is a nema 14-30. That will give you both lives for 220 along with neutral for 120 and ground. You can safely piglead convert that to a nema 6-30. Your landlord can not stop you from performing that upgrade by a licensed electrician in most states. He may even split the cost. Disclaimer: I am not a licensed electrician and this post does not constitute advice. But please, verify what you have been told since much of what precedes my post is not only wrong, but dangerous. A piglead conversion from a nema 10-30 to a 6-30 would be ungrounded. Yeah but doesn't the NEMA 10-30 dryer plug have two 110V lives and one ground/earth. So changing to a NEMA L6-30P the only real hard bit is making sure that you wire up the ground/earth receptacle correctly. While the other two 110V leaves don't really matter which receptacle that they're wired to.   |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything.. Guys where was you at BFL in 2012 or Avalon in 2013. Or HF and CT very recently. You did read the small print?Currently I prefer reading swiss law Well, they have been working chips. So if it is all just a scam we can claim not just off the capital of their working chips design but also working physical chips too. Quids in IMO a lot better than BFL after nine months late or HF after three months late pre-orders. |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything.. Guys where was you at BFL in 2012 or Avalon in 2013. Or HF and CT very recently. You did read the small print? |
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Dont even know why this tread is still here...
As a warning to other potential costumers who might fall for bitmine.ch. Don't forget bitmine still takes new orders for march week 4 devices. They will continue to do so. So if this thread wouldn't exist, some people would actually think they might get a device in 6 weeks if they order now. And that is such a farce! How come the shipping time is now SHORTER then when I made the order end of november??? I ordered end of november for a february week 1 device. That's about 10 weeks. Now if someone places a new order they tell him that he has only 6 weeks to wait??? WTF??? Nothing makes sense anymore. Do they not care anymore to update the date? They let the new guys walk right into a trap... IMHO the "March 4th" week batch has been going on so long because of the drastic drop in BTC price. So that they still think that they can supply orders for that date range. Due to order numbers being so low. |
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So is there any reason why you can't get 2 x 1 TH/s desk units instead of 1 x 2 TH/s rigs? I realize that this means more cases, power supplies etc., but they are already horribly late...
I was thinking that also plus it may be easier to overclock them due to heat issues? |
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Does a PDU offer surge protection if not what should we use. I think we're going to skip a UPS as can't really afford it. Can anyone recommend a good cheap 220V@30A PDU with NEMA L6-30P and two C19/C20 socket connectors.
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Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R  I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it. I had a few of those at my warehouse- I ended up having an electrician swap the actual outlet out for $20 a pop to a NEMA 6-30r Unfortunately, it's a rented property and we're unable to change it. So unless there's a plug adapter it's of no use. |
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Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.  |
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Well, I just got an email reply of the Bitmine that the big rig will use a C19 power cable connection. A C19 connection is rated for a maximum of 16A so unless you're going to use >208V you won't even get the stated 2(TH/s) out of the device. Unless it uses multiple inputs.
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batch 1a customers. Until they ship the Neptunes. They won't give us the hashrate before April 1st at the very earliest, but if they give it us after mid May then all you guys were right in your rants. While I Why do you keep repeating April 1st? They, KNCMiner, said verbatim the 'drop dead date' for giving customers access to datacenter hashes would be if they don't make the Q2 timeframe. Not Q1. And then there's vesper. Haha Wow, thanks for your input. Not only did you take the time to say 3 times how I'm clearly clueless about anything, you failed to give any constructive reasoning why. Well done.
I suggested you re-read the entire thread. I've been lurking since day 1 and keeping notes. Not just on KNC, but most of the claimed OEM's. Call it a hobby. Avenger, myself, a few others, all individually started noticing emerging patterns from KNC, and we all pretty much called the ball, and come to find out we were all pretty much on target. I don't need to provide any further foundation for what I'm saying. Heck, go back to November timeframe and read on, you'll see what we said was true. Or don't, it's not that big a deal for 1 person to be challenging proven individuals. When did we ever start defining affordability in the context of a potential for profit? ..lol I could redefine all kinds of words to better suit my arguments too.
Did you miss the part of ROI? Sure they offer hash capability for a dollar amount. If that's your basis for saying they're not leaving you without options, then you have pretty low standards. -Where are my FINAL specs on Neptune hash speed? I can assume it is 3Th -but didn't Jupiter start at 250Gh?
Their business model for sales is based on 3TH. That should be anyone's primary number for calculating return. Based on pages of math done throughout this thread, it's likely that you will be able to get 4.5 out of it without terrible effort, possibly 5.5 if you have the capability. The primary limitation is power. -Where are my FINAL details in regards to the cloudhashing option? Is it a complete forfeiture of my Neptune? Will the relative speed of cloudhashing always reflect updated Neptune specs? When exactly does the compensatory cloudhashing for Batch 1a begin?
KNC stipulated if it came to cloudhashing, it would be if they missed Q2 shipping, which means after Q2. It will then begin in order of batches. Did you guys miss the newsletter and emails? Is it completely impossible to consider a scenario in which the Neptune at the time of release is 6 (or more) Th?
Capable? Possibly. Probable? Not likely. Going off of how the Jupiters were engineered and deployed, they put a lot of squeeze room into the design mainly in case of failure of the design. They discussed this last summer. They under-rated on purpose, it was both a sales tactic and a safety net for engineering. This is why the November units couldn't overclock as much, because they came pre-squeezed. For Neptunes, they stated they would pre-squeeze them as well, up to nominal power limits WRT US outlets, which is where you get your 3TH figure. Again, and I know this sounds as if you've heard it before.. this all comes from newsletters, email, and information throughout the thread... Is it completely impossible to consider that IF each Neptune was indeed 6Th, that in order to provide a possible Plan B to all existing preorders, ~22Ph must be rolled out in their datacenter?
They stipulated regardless of capability, each order would only be allotted the sales-figure-based hashrate of 3TH. Is it completely impossible to consider that IF they had to roll out a 22Ph safety net, they realized they simply didn't have the Jupiter production capacity to both provide said backup plan AND sell Jupiters and new modules?
They have more than enough production capacity because they rent production capacity based on demand. They simply diverted it for their own needs instead of allowing customers to purchase it. As is their right. (By the way, a 6Th machine, released at a 15 billion difficulty with 1 billion difficulty jumps (that's ~7Ph added to network) on an EVERY WEEK basis, that machine will mine 13 BTC in 3 months)
...Which proves what we were saying earlier, it won't earn its cost back without tremendous luck from the luck fairy, because few households can support a single 6TH unit, and it's not likely their first-time-run 20nm architecture will achieve those speeds anyhow. Imagine a 4TH machine delivered in May. Would either of you, or the handful of the other loud bitching mouths here, even be able to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY of scenarios that exist outside of your own narrow views?
Other situations do in fact exist, and it's not narrowminded if you think about it. They offered a product, people paid for it, they delivered. With exception to the modules (which, by law, they should provide), they're not bound to provide any other products or services. The NPS wasn't exactly part of their by-laws, it was just a statement of idealism. I hold them more accountable for the modules which everyone in 2013 is entitled to, as well as yourself--the Neptune batches 1 and 2 were sold with "Modular upgradability" as a bullet point. Part of the reason they've been running their own datacenter for awhile now (since November), is likely due to their foreseeing the possibilities of everything which has since occured, including 1/3rd of their cash capital being refunded to customers. They needed something to return when they had to cut off refunds. They needed 66% of the cash for the product and their venture. This is why their 3rd Neptune batch didn't have refunds. I'm not as narrowminded as you might believe, and if you knew me and knew how often my estimations and predictions were within 1 deviation of accuracy, you might be more understanding as to why I'm suggesting you keep up with the thread and other news outlets. Most of your postulations or thoughts have all been answered.. by KNC for the most part, without our "views". FFS how much energy did you put into that post. Can I ask you this why do you spend most of your free time and energy to try and tarnish the KNC name nearly two months before they're due to ship. KNC's actions will prove them yet again or maybe bury them. Although your crusade and all that time spent will be forgotten. Here you've made your point, then if you're correct you can quote it in July and gloat. IMHO KNC have so far proved them selfs to be the best option of a bad bunch. That's why I put more than $50k on them. |
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I bought five Neptunes batch 1a and am long on them all. Although at these bitcoin prices a refund is very tempting to lock in some profit. I'm not kissing KNC's arse and am a bit concerned myself, but this thread is being hijacked. That's why Orama isn't posting for the same reason the trolls are now tag-teaming on me LoL. KNC had already shown that they have the hashrate in their datacentre to provide to all batch 1a customers. Until they ship the Neptunes. They won't give us the hashrate before April 1st at the very earliest, but if they give it us after mid May then all you guys were right in your rants. While I should have refunded all five at a profit. KNC won't bum-f*ck its customers unless their forced into a sitution where they have too. They've already shown they are trying to build support from the community and I'm still confident for some pleasant surprises myself.
I am not sure that they have the hash rate yet, but i think that they would have to provide for batch 1 customers on March15-April15. May would be too late to break even in $$. I assume that we will know more in a couple of weeks (or even faster if Neptune batch 2.5 would have difficulty selling). Losing money on transaction that suppose to make money (bitcoin mining) would mean that they will have no customers going forward-and this is a fact. I don't want to refund because nobody knows where bitcoin will be in 2weeks. No point of getting a refund, buying bitcoin and see it dipping to $400, which is entirely possible if MtGotcha crocks. IMO before plan B was announced I always thought that KNC would compensate any late delivery with extra hashrate. Just like the final Jupiter speed was boosted by nearly 100% from their initial announcement. |
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For all any of you know KNC has already fabbed out and April 1st shipping is on schedule.
You do realize that only a handful of 20nm projects have taped-out, ever? KnC isn't yet one of them, you can bank on that. Since when was you the authority on that. These fabrication plants do not make public all their records. In fact, it's kept very confidential. Although I don't think they've fabbed out yet either. They've shown they have the hashrate already to compsaint batch 1a customers until they Neptunes ship. While I'm expecting that hashrate to be transferred to batch 1a customers by mid-May at the latest. It wouldn't surprise me if they allocated that hashtrate to batch 1a customers in early April as part of their plan B. All the FUD spreaders trying to convince the internet that KNC won't allocate that hashrate to any of their Neptune customers until July at the very earliest. Have nothing more to back up your claims any more than me trying to convince the internet that KNC will allocate all batch 1a customers their hashrate on April 1st. So stop claiming your words are gospel and take your constant ramberlings to the Mining Speculation sub-forum please. Which is the correct board for such heresy. *not all this post is directed at the account quoted. |
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[...] KNC won't bum-f*ck its customers unless their forced into a sitution where they have too. They've already shown they are trying to build support from the community and I'm still confident for some pleasant surprises myself.
Wake up, they've be silently "bum-f*ck[ing]" everyone. When you waited over twelve months for a BFL pre-order and you've watched HF burn it's early pre-order customers. You'd think that KNC was sent by Wodin himself. KNC never announced when they fabbed out at 28nm until long after they had. So it's safe to presume that they'll do the same this time. For all any of you know KNC has already fabbed out and April 1st shipping is on schedule. As they're implied in their recent announcements. Batch 1a is not late until after mid May in my books. So I'm giving them until then before crediting any of you with predicting the demise of the KNC brand name. While you should all too, instead of sh*tting your knickers or spreading fud and just basically trolling. |
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if youve been using the forum that long you'd read the posts that are addressed to you and not issue half assed apologies and stupid explanations in PMs.
but then if every IPO investor you know has made 100% profit what are you doing here telling me about 5.5btc profits to be made by cancelling and ebaying such an awesome deal as KnC have roped us into?
face it, youre full of shit and feel the need to poopoo the facts here for some reason. my excuse is frustration, disappointment and disgust...
so how many neptunes have you paid for and how many have u refunded.
or is this post too many words for you to deal with in one sitting?
I bought five Neptunes batch 1a and am long on them all. Although at these bitcoin prices a refund is very tempting to lock in some profit. I'm not kissing KNC's arse and am a bit concerned myself, but this thread is being hijacked. That's why Orama isn't posting for the same reason the trolls are now tag-teaming on me LoL. KNC had already shown that they have the hashrate in their datacentre to provide to all batch 1a customers. Until they ship the Neptunes. They won't give us the hashrate before April 1st at the very earliest, but if they give it us after mid May then all you guys were right in your rants. While I should have refunded all five at a profit. KNC won't bum-f*ck its customers unless their forced into a sitution where they have too. They've already shown they are trying to build support from the community and I'm still confident for some pleasant surprises myself. |
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Where did I call you any names and who's doing the name calling LoLz it's the same drivel been repeated over and over again. There's nothing new of use to read in this thread anymore. At first it was loads of off-topic posts derailing this thread. Now it's just the same trolls spreading FUD and high-fiving each other. About how we've all been scammed and conned by a Nigerian prince FFS. KNC is a business to make a profit just like you bought your gear to profit. All I can do is highly recommend and suggest that you put all your new pre-orders in with BFL or HF.
Matt calm down mate, there is this wonderful feature of the forum called the ignore link, you are obviously happy with your purchase, neither you nor anyone else is going to convince anyone to buy or not-buy or refund or sell or whatever. There is no point going hammer and tongs against the doomsdayers, they obviously feel passionate enough about the topic to froth and rant which is, of course, their right. But seeing as you will never convince them and they will never convince you is there any point? Especially is there any point quoting them so that the people who do have them on ignore have to read the stuff despite doing so. Or not. Fight with all your might if you feel strongly enough about it. Might get ignored a bit yourself in the end. Or just thank them for all their help, tell them they were right, and thank goodness you saw the light and listed to their sage advice. Me, I'm...  Dude, I've been on this forum since 2011. You should have seen how much of a troll-pit it was back then. When bitcoin bubbled to $30 for the first time and crashed back down to $3. I eat trolls for breakfast and spin their heads for fun  Edit: When I get bored or have something to do, I'll leave them alone. These trolls must have very empty lives to put so much time into spreading hate and FUD on this forum so much plus so often. Me I've started a business and made money off this forum. My thread has nearly over a thousand posts and fifty pages. In its very early days the thread was a troll city them trying to affect my fundraising. Although we raised the funds and since then every IPO investor has had the opportunity to cash out at over a 100% bitcoin profit. |
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again. That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could. So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better. It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll. You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now. Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat. I can see why Orama doesn't want to post. So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far. So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.
if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite... I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping - it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!! Still is! A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware! then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune.. and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting... as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect. so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU! what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?! ..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!! theyre so awesome you guys.... 'Leave KnC Alooooooooone' Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY! Some days its 0.3!! so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US... how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit? May? June? July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!! its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!! In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig... ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it... Have you even seen the current sales prices of Jupiter's on eBay and the current bitcoin price. Did you not know that KNC is doing bitcoin refunds on Neptunes. That's currently about a 5.5BTC profit for batch 1a customers in getting a refund. With all that bitcoin profit to make I don't really see your problem. Haters gonna hate I suppose  Did you even read my post you name-calling spastic? Roll Eyes Where did I call you any names and who's doing the name calling LoLz it's the same drivel been repeated over and over again. There's nothing new of use to read in this thread anymore. At first it was loads of off-topic posts derailing this thread. Now it's just the same trolls spreading FUD and high-fiving each other. About how we've all been scammed and conned by a Nigerian prince FFS. KNC is a business to make a profit just like you bought your gear to profit. All I can do is highly recommend and suggest that you put all your new pre-orders in with BFL or HF. There! and i was being 'ironic' but now you're being moronic. so i'll leave you to it.. If you felt my OP was targeted at you well that says it all IMO and that it's correct. |
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again. That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could. So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better. It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll. You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now. Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat. I can see why Orama doesn't want to post. So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far. So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.
if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite... I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping - it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!! Still is! A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware! then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune.. and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting... as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect. so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU! what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?! ..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!! theyre so awesome you guys.... 'Leave KnC Alooooooooone' Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY! Some days its 0.3!! so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US... how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit? May? June? July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!! its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!! In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig... ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it... Have you even seen the current sales prices of Jupiter's on eBay and the current bitcoin price. Did you not know that KNC is doing bitcoin refunds on Neptunes. That's currently about a 5.5BTC profit for batch 1a customers in getting a refund. With all that bitcoin profit to make I don't really see your problem. Haters gonna hate I suppose Did you even read my post you name-calling spastic? Roll Eyes Where did I call you any names and who's doing the name calling LoLz it's the same drivel been repeated over and over again. There's nothing new of use to read in this thread anymore. At first it was loads of off-topic posts derailing this thread. Now it's just the same trolls spreading FUD and high-fiving each other. About how we've all been scammed and conned by a Nigerian prince FFS. KNC is a business to make a profit just like you bought your gear to profit. All I can do is highly recommend and suggest that you put all your new pre-orders in with BFL or HF. |
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again. That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could. So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better. It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll. You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now. Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat. I can see why Orama doesn't want to post. So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far. So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.
if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite... I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping - it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!! Still is! A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware! then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune.. and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting... as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect. so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU! what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?! ..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!! theyre so awesome you guys.... 'Leave KnC Alooooooooone' Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY! Some days its 0.3!! so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US... how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit? May? June? July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!! its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!! In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig... ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it... Have you even seen the current sales prices of Jupiter's on eBay and the current bitcoin price. Did you not know that KNC is doing bitcoin refunds on Neptunes. That's currently about a 5.5BTC profit for batch 1a customers in getting a refund. With all that bitcoin profit to make I don't really see your problem. Haters gonna hate I suppose |
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