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361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RICO and BTC on: January 28, 2014, 12:38:35 PM
Not sure if anyone is familiar with the RICO act but if I'm correct it potentially puts the entire Bitcoin community under investigation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

One way the government would bust Mafia members is by using "marked" bills. Agents would engage in illegal business transactions with criminal organizations and since the top members weren't at the buy they would bust those higher members when they were in possession of the marked bills which linked them to the crime. In the case of BTC - transactions and dealing on the silkroad extend into every possible aspect of bitcoin as all the Bitcoins from that ever went in and out of the Silkroad are essentially marked. What does this mean? It means that anyone operating a bitcoin related business is subject to investigation and arrest under the RICO act. Essentially the entire bitcoin network is operating as an illegal criminal organization from the miners who supported the the transactions to the pools that support the miners.

The arrest of Charlie Shrem is the beginning of the end for Bitcoin. What's even more odd is Lead Bitcoin developer Gavin meets with the CIA/NSA/CFR and then all of a sudden these arrests happen. Seems a bit odd. If you don't think this forum is also crawling with feds than you are gravely mistaken.

Anoncoin, Stablecoin and Zerocoin represent the future of cryptocurrency because those developers are working to protect the users/operators/miners from being implicated in a RICO investigation by making the transactions completely anonymous. Something bitcoin developers like Gavin could care less about. You can't have marked bills if the currency is anonymous. One needs to protect free currency through anonymity just like free speech protects both hate and praise speech.

You are incredibly confused on pretty much all the points involved.
362  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Max Keiser and the Rise of Bitcoin Demagogues on: January 28, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY

Max has been MP's cockpuppet for a while now.
363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing on: January 27, 2014, 09:27:45 PM
Question: What specific standards/credentials/benchmarks do you propose for cutting through the B.S., identifying leaders, etc.?

I don't, nor is it my place to do so. Just, please, think about it!
364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing on: January 27, 2014, 09:23:50 PM
I have read both of your posts. You are telling many wise and true things. But those are very unpleasant truths which (very aggressively) attack ego and illusion of self-importance and superiority of ordinary (average or sub-average) person. Not many people will listen to you. But I think you know all of that...
With great power comes great responsibility ability to influence things.

Myeah.
365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing on: January 27, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
This article is the logical continuation of the older Personal responsiblity and the Ponzi scam offering. Odds are you're too new to have read that back in the day. Once you're done here go there and catch up.

Acts have consequences. Not some of them, not those which you wish to have consequences, not even those which you accept or aquiesce may have consequences. All of them. Each and every last one of them.

Those consequences aren't limited to what you find acceptable, at the time you act or at any later time. Those consequences aren't limited to what you find conceivable, with your dimwitted thinker, nor to what you find "should have been conceivable" in retrospect. The entire array of consequences is available at all times upon all your actions and inactions. With or without your agreement, approval or intent.

So, when you promote some random 24 yo schmuck as if he has something to say about Bitcoin, you are opening yourself to one day reading in the newspaper that

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Put this arrest right above Dogecoin and Coinye West on the list of reasons why Bitcoin is the Jonah Hill in The Wolf of Wall Street of currency: no matter how much they strive to be taken seriously, the Bitcoin community remains a punch line.

As if Bitcoin strives to be taken seriously by the general fuckwittery. As if that's what we're all about, renting a coupla rustbuckets to put vanity plates on them. As if this shit is has anything to do with Bitcoin at all. As if anyone cares.

When you promote some random scam with foundational delusions as in any way relevant, when you interact with it as anything other than a laughingstock, what you get is what anyone with two brains'd expect. You get to read bullshit like

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As merchants embrace Bitcoin, digital currency still struggles for regulatory approval worldwide

As if we give a kernel of a shit, joint or several, whether self-proclaimed "regulators" approve or don't approve. The issue is whether Bitcoin will approve any regulator and which exactly, not whether some obscure bureaucrat somewhere thinks it proper for the Sun to come out tomorrow.

So then: time to rethink your defective mental processes. Stop promoting things on the grounds that they seem, superficially, "right". Some kid having a nice smile, which Shrem does have, is no fucking basis to pretend like he may be publicly associated with Bitcoin. The basis would be someone who can actually fight back when the going gets tough, that's who you want to look up to. The basis would be someone who actually has the foresight to avoid ridiculous tarpits a la "hi guise, I r order fake passports to my home address because totally people send you fake passports with your motherfucking face on them as a prank all the time".

So far you're batting 0-9 or some shit. You thought Dread Pirate Roberts was Mr. Bitcoin, turns out he was a schmucky 20something with shocking mental disability. Shocking mental disability that nevertheless somehow passed unnoticed by you. Why is that? You thought Roger Ver was Mr. Bitcoin, turns out he's some guy with a serious problem over fifty missing dollars. You thought Charlie Shrem was Mr. Bitcoin, turns out he's a clueless kid made of papier mache. They don't even need to be trying too hard. Karpeles signed paperwork that's actually false and enough to get him indicted, Vessenes is in so deep with all the piles upon piles of fraud in his venture he's not even worth going after (yet). You still think Michael Asshole Hearn is somehow relevant for Bitcoin, notwithstanding he's yet to do a single thing that wouldn't be exactly вредительство. What, he accidentally fucked up the code by implementing massive changes without reading, is it? Nearly crushed Bitcoin last year, and in the process provided "accidentally", of course, invaluable stress testing data to all enemies?

Not one single pick you've made was correct. It's not even that you're picking anyone that's in the race, you're roughly in the position of someone whose picks for the NFL season aren't even playing in the NFL, aren't even athletes, aren't even citizens, aren't even human and aren't even all animate. A kitchen sink, a wet noodle, some nesting birds, a dead tapeworm, that's your NFL picks.

You're George, dear Bitcoin community, of

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It became very clear to me sitting out there today, that every decision I've ever made, in my entire life, has been wrong. My life is the complete opposite of everything I want it to be. Every instinct I have, in every of aspect of life, be it something to wear, something to eat ... It's all been wrong. (chuckles) Everywhere.

That's you. You're George. Bear that in mind.
366  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin-Banker.Com = Bitcoin hybrid cloud wallet on: January 27, 2014, 02:41:25 AM
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367  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: January 27, 2014, 02:34:39 AM
I wouldn't have chosen Havelock as the exchange. Cryptostocks, on the other hand, allows fund listing with little or no ID or identity verification.

Havelock has allowed people to split with the proceeds on numerous past occasions. There's really no difference between the two.
368  Economy / Securities / Re: Diamond Circle - Information memorandum - Ticker 'XDC' - Cryptostocks.com on: January 26, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
Hi Stephen.

The DC management and advisory team have extensive experience in the design, delivery and management of regulated financial institutions.

This sort of statement is out of place. See here.

369  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTO-TRADE] Crypto-trade.com IPO and official thread! on: January 26, 2014, 10:02:24 PM
the thing is: crypto-trade was never planned to be a securities exchange in addition to the regular crypto coin exchange. but with the closing of ltc-global & btctc (where CT hosted their shares back in the days) and
no reasonable stock exchange alternative out there, they dare to implement this feature too.

No, what happened is that neotrix figured he'll succeed where others failed because there's nothing wrong with starting an exchange when you have no idea what you're doing; it's just that he's special and nefario, burnside, ukyo etc weren't.

Obviously, this doesn't pan out.

i don't want to defend them because i'm really angry about late dividends by myself, and i told neotrix a few month earlier to hire at least a community

And yet here you are, attempting to cover for their stupidity by misrepresenting the situation. It won't help now, it won't help the next time a play pretend exchange is started, and it's incredibly irresponsible --not to mention the fact that it's rather cruel to encourage idiots to take on tasks they're not qualified to carry out even past the point that they've essentially thrown their hands up.

A securities exchange is not a toy. It is not a spur of the moment project. It is not to be handled by people who lack specific expertise. And yes, I'll keep saying it, if not for the vague hope that some day in the distant future it finally becomes comprehensible to you than for the far more likely chance that people who haven't watched this particular drama unfold eleventy billion times will get it on the first pass.
370  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy, can we please get an official statement regarding your deposit issues? on: January 26, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
With all of the recent BS going on with cryptsy why are any of you still using their site?

This. So long as you use crappy services, crappy services will abound, because they can. Demanding explanations and all is great, but it should come with 1. thoroughly researching before said service is ever used to determine the likelihood of your eventually needing to demand explanations and 2. the termination of use of said service if and when incompetence and irresponsibility are evident.

See here.
371  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitTeller - Winnipeg ATM Machine on: January 26, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
Introducing
BitTeller, We are launching Winnipeg's first ever BTC ATM, We have secured the top line model from BitAccess.co and will be show casing it at the Feb 15th Coinfest. This model not only allows you to buy Bitcoin's from the ATM for cash, But sell directly to the ATM for Cash!

For our initial Launch we have partnered with a local restaurant central to Winnipeg, Santa Lucia, 4 St. Mary's Rd.
We are still looking into rate's but initially we suspect a 5-7% rate for exchange. But hope to work this down a bit.
If all goes well we plan to role out smaller unit's to a few locations in town.


This is a slightly rushed announcement since I just saw another thread giving this ATM credit to a member of these forum's who has zero to do with any ATM and essentially is running a scam. So to be clear. Any thread on here not from myself or in the coinfest announcement has zero affiliation with BitTeller.

More to come. But for now, Machine is secured. We have a fair bit of cash backing. we MAY.. a BIG MAY be looking for BTC investor's so we can have a larger amount of BTC sitting on the exchange to accommodate large transactions faster (Our cash investor's want their funds in cash, so the exchange rate lag can slow the machine down a little bit, and BTC investor's would put in and get back BTC value. So it's an option we are considering.

Any questions, please ask Smiley

Shawn Stone
Co-Owner of BitTeller

Hi Shawn. You should probably see here. Taking the right steps would at a minimum ensure whatever impostors wouldn't have a prayer, and more importantly establish who you are, how you're qualified, and whether "BIG MAY" investors would be able to make a sane decision. Good luck.
372  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Business Brain-storm - Noobs into BTC? on: January 26, 2014, 03:17:55 AM
Thoughts appreciated.

You might get something out of this old post.
373  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin Nightmare. on: January 25, 2014, 06:54:39 PM
OP, you have quite a bit of reading and learning to do re computer security and so forth, and in that sense, yeah, you'd be best sticking with something that nannies your security for you until such time as you can responsibly and confidently handle it yourself.

But it sounds like you at least vaguely understood that you were accepting inordinate amounts of risk at several points in your "nightmare". If you let the perceived urgency of whatever you're doing override your basic instincts towards caution and prudence, you'll likely go through the woodchipper now and then, whether you're working with BTC or anything else. If something seems like a shitty deal, a sketchy company, a bad idea, and you either don't have the time or don't have the interest to make a solid call on it, just don't do it. If for some reason you absolutely must, then you'll have to accept the likely forfeiture of your stuff.

Sucks that all of these hit you in a row, but by now you're in an excellent position to reassess your moves and work on getting a tighter ship together. Good luck.
374  Economy / Collectibles / Re: portraits, commissions, and original paintings by Maureen Gubia on: January 25, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
MP sez "Have them do one of me as Hitler." Can you do that? "Let them go wild with it," he says.
375  Economy / Securities / Re: Problem with BOURSE forced buyback on Cryptostocks on: January 25, 2014, 03:33:40 PM
I have got some background information that issuance of such unregistered "shares" may be frowned upon by French regulator.

This happens to be exactly the wrong way to go about it. Everything bitcoin, including financials, is and will remain unregistered with the fiat world, and unregulated by the fiat world; if it has to come to a war it will, and the fiat world will be burned to a cinder.

Given this, it's kind of immoral to go "we'll do our own stuff except if we blow up we expect you to spend time and resources to fix it for us". Things don't work that way in any sane system.

The old GPG contracts article explains it in detail: you've got to do due diligence before you act, rather than after. You knew cryptostocks wasn't a venue. By simple fact that this shit listed there you'd know it's a scam. If it weren't it'd have listed on MPEx. Who are the people involved? Nobody? That means it's a scam. Whether they have two arms just like anyone else or not, whether they're nice wives or fathers or transsexuals, whether they mean to or not. What they do will be a scam.

That's what happens specifically because they have no control over the results of their actions, and that's because they have neither the intelligence to understand what they should be doing nor the experience of having done what they were supposed to do.

Some kid declaring "math is stupid" has not therefore resolved the problem of his having to learn math, just like some kid proclaiming MPOE-PR is evil has not therefore resolved the problem of having to do exactly (and well) everything I say he has to do.

It's just how the world works, and there are no exceptions.
376  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Fly or Die? P2P loans for Margin trading on top of bitstamp,campbx,mt gox,kraken on: January 25, 2014, 03:12:20 PM
stop spending time on someone else's pages and write your own. life is more valuable than criticism. get a life.

My "own pages" have been here enumerating how vain asshats like yourself (and plenty of far less self-important folks who might've simply missed a few points) may, with time and effort, turn any actual ideas into something worthwhile, for years. Your reaction has been to ignore them and fight me because, obviously, you know better. Magically, and because you say so, the fact that you have no relevant identity nonwithstanding.

This isn't the personal expression forum where your umpteenth "announcement" should be considered in the contexts of emotion and world peace. This is bitcoin. Take the hint and fix your shit.
377  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Disclose the identity owners of exchanges BTC-e.com on: January 25, 2014, 02:37:54 AM
Well of course withdraws will work smoothly until they shut down and take off with your money. Im all for this...everyone has a right to know who is in control of their money. If you dont want your identity known, obviously youre up to some shady shit.

So insist on seeing credentials before using a service or otherwise sending BTC. This approach whereby anyone with a tempting enough promise can be trusted up until things get uncomfortable at which point pitchforks is as ineffective as it is insensible.
378  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [HOT!!!] 5 Ready to Make Big Money PLR Blogs + Hottest Bonus [ Dirty cheap ] on: January 25, 2014, 02:32:44 AM
Try the warrior forum or something eh.
379  Other / Archival / Re: CoinRnr.com - Buy and Sell Bitcoin FASTER (US Based, Cash Deposits, 15 MIN) on: January 25, 2014, 02:26:02 AM
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Hi Mazin.

It'd be a good idea to introduce yourself formally, with your qualifications and all, and to get a WoT identity going.
380  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: January 25, 2014, 02:07:35 AM
If you weren't so obviously mentally incompetent and if you hadn't a history of shilling for the scammiest shit one might even take the spurious bs here seriously. As it is...lol.

Awaiting the unavoidable implosion, followed by the usual storm of three-month-old idiots who as per usual think they know better decrying their bitcent losses.
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