谁给这些货翻译一下，妈蛋，英语落下太多了：
有人把蛋糕放在患糖尿病人的前面，明知道那人患糖尿病并且很可能管不住自己，然后出事了，这完全是病人自己的事？？你们的意思就是：谁叫你管不住自己想去吃的？我不懂法律，不过类似的事情好像不仅仅是病人的过错吧？？
况且b网是有前科的，之前那么多scam，是个人就知道它不干净。全怪用户？
One man put some cakes in front of people with diabetes, knowing that people suffering from diabetes are very likely to eat the cake. Then people eat the cakes, it is entirely the patient's own thing? ? You mean is this: Why did you want to stop myself to eat? I do not know the law, but it seems like something more than just the patient's fault, right? ? Moreover, there were so many scam coins on bittrex, if bittrex users get scammed only blame users? |
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In IRC, they are blaming we did bad trades, but not their responsibility, their simple terms can make more and more ICO scammers.
Could you give me the IRC link? #bittrex Tks you can help us, they wanna proofs, they said your posts are not proofs |
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In IRC, they are blaming we did bad trades, but not their responsibility, their simple terms can make more and more ICO scammers.
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You're wasting your time. Get a warrant.
are you admin? Because if we have a proof which can show 3 account are logged from one IP, CLUSTERCOIN ico investors can get a 350btc refund from bittrex. Is it possible to get our money back from Bittrex?  I don't know, you can share your views in IRC. We are trying to let bittrex refund, this shit coin fucks every ICO investors. Thank you for your effort  they seems blame investors, but not the scammers, disappointed. |
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If you want IPs get a legal request for information, such as a court order. It's best to have a "chain of custody" so to speak when it comes to things like this. If we handed out IPs to any random who asked, and violence of some sort ended up happening, then we would be on the hook if we couldn't show a paper trail of who requested the information. If you are on the up and up and don't plan on doing anything illegal, then there shouldn't be any problems with this.
but we need find proofs to show they are the same scammer, or bittrex may not refund 350 btc to ICO investors, we are fucked by CLUSTERCOIN ico, constant dump after ICO and many possible proofs show they 3 are the same person, it is 350 btc, a big amount of money. If we don't have the proof, I am afraid bittrex won't refund us, we investors will be victims. You actually think Bittrex will refund you 350BTC because you didn't do your due diligence very well? Even anyone blind, deaf and dumb would have realized early on what you have too late. BTW, the forum doesn't take a stand against scams. ~BCX~ bittrex escrow this coin, many ppl are scammed. Bittrex should refund to protect ICO investors. |
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So many ways to cover their tracks on the internet,it will be not easy but i still support you
sorry I am not a hacker Could you help me? Tks |
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You're wasting your time. Get a warrant.
are you admin? Because if we have a proof which can show 3 account are logged from one IP, CLUSTERCOIN ico investors can get a 350btc refund from bittrex. Is it possible to get our money back from Bittrex? I don't know, you can share your views in IRC. We are trying to let bittrex refund, this shit coin fucks every ICO investors. |
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If you want IPs get a legal request for information, such as a court order. It's best to have a "chain of custody" so to speak when it comes to things like this. If we handed out IPs to any random who asked, and violence of some sort ended up happening, then we would be on the hook if we couldn't show a paper trail of who requested the information. If you are on the up and up and don't plan on doing anything illegal, then there shouldn't be any problems with this.
but we need find proofs to show they are the same scammer, or bittrex may not refund 350 btc to ICO investors, we are fucked by CLUSTERCOIN ico, constant dump after ICO and many possible proofs show they 3 are the same person, it is 350 btc, a big amount of money. If we don't have the proof, I am afraid bittrex won't refund us, we investors will be victims. |
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what if he used vpn /tor or other login thing, tracking them could be really hard
yes, but we need find proofs to show they are the same scammer, or bittrex may not refund 350 btc to ICO investors, we are fucked by CLUSTERCOIN ico |
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You're wasting your time. Get a warrant.
are you admin? Because if we have a proof which can show 3 account are logged from one IP, CLUSTERCOIN ico investors can get a 350btc refund from bittrex. |
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we should get shameonyou and Essex343' IP or login history, who can get, it will help ICO investors to get a refund.
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Essex, I have three questions for you. (i) What will prevent two or more people from double spending by using the same wallet.dat in two or more different geographic locations?In your whitepaper, you claimed that the Cluster protocol will automatically split blocks within the network according to geographic regions (undefined) and create multiple valid blockchains. You further stated that sync blocks will be generated only once certain thresholds are reached. To me, this 'synch gap' creates a perfect environment for network-wide double spending. (ii) What will prevent entities from creating blockchain forks within their own geographic region?Since the hashrate from individual geographic regions will be relatively small, a person or organization with a significant enough hashrate could easily create forks to facilitate double spending. In addition, said entity could fool the protocol to allocate a geographic region for itself by spamming dusts to create the illusion of trade volume. In your whitepaper, you stated: [...] we believe that the most important part of the clustering algorithm is to cluster large economic hubs that have a lot of financial activity in order to maintain fast transaction confirmation time. As you can see, the threat is very valid. (iii) Did you buy this Bitcointalk account?If yes, may I know your original Bitcointalk account? If no, can you explain why your earlier posts consists almost entirely of asking for giveaways (wallet address + 'Thanks!' or 'Awesome'!)? Your four months absence between post #147 and #148 also raises some questions. First of all, I want to thank you for contributing to the coin development by asking valid questions. i) wallet.dat file can be used in different regions/clusters but the balance in each region will be different (i.e. in each region there will be region-specific balance), so double spending will not be possible. It is possible to transfer funds across different regions but no using them at the same time twice ii) creating a fork in a given region will not be simpler nor harder than creating a fork for any other crypto as in each region clustercoin behaves pretty much the same apart from synchronization blocks. We have seen many different coins, with big and small network hashrates, and forks are not created by attacks but typically by bad coin implementation. Although, the usual fork risk exists as with any other crypto, it is not bigger so it doesn’t seem to be a major point of concern. iii) geographic regions will be created based on latency, not on transaction volume (potentially high transaction volume regions will be used as starting regions for clusters). Even if one of the clusters has been created by a group of nodes by collusion it is not clear how these nodes can benefit from having additional cluster. Whatever coins have been mined in their cluster would have to be transferred to another cluster (via sync blocks) and because per cluster block reward will be proportional to cluster’s hashrate (this is still one of possible solutions around this) it shouldn’t be profitable to engage in such activity. lastly I didn't buy this account. I was experimenting with crypto back then, looking what others were doing. Away time was due to some rough time at my former job. actually I am agree with you, DEV we trusted you and fund you, if you are kind and honest, you can take into account our suggetions, now the price is fucked by FUDders, you should help us. BECAUSE WE HELP YOU TO GET A LARGE FUND, right? Help each other plz. Tks |
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when will you send our investment bonus? USB stick, cap, Tshirt and so on.
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The difference with USE coin is that USE was not hosted by Bittrex so they had no way to enforce the burning of the extra coins. In this case it was hosted on Bittrex, but I have to say the thought crossed my mind that maybe they are shorting the extra 3.5M coins before burning them. Do we have any verification from Bittrex that they destroyed the extra coins?
People need to calm down and respect the timelines laid out; we are only human  and we have an escrow period for the sole purpose of making sure the right things happen and are audited. Please be patient. That said, we have burned the coins - feel free to monitor this address till the end of time... https://chainz.cryptoid.info/clstr/address.dws?CQdhWMLud4PKXHxpR1b3x25Rsf6848afHm.htmThanks, Richie@bittrex Hi Richie, If the Dev asked you to only release 100BTC then release the other 250BTC a few weeks after would you accommodate that? I will not ask Bittrex to do that. BTC that we will receive from Bittrex will be kept on a single address that will be totally transparent and every body will be able to how and when Bitcoins are spent. I'm not saying I agree with pondsea, but why would you need the entire amount as a lump sum? If you would ask bittrex to release the ico in payments, it would restore a lot of faith in investors. I have never given any reason for investors to lose faith in ClusterCoin. The white paper and the road map are unchanged since I first announced first thread. So why would somebody lose faith in what we do? ClusterCoin development can not be completed without funding. This is why we have to take control of it and not be dependant of the third party The problem is not faith in clustercoin, but in alts and ICO's. People in this market have been scammed repeatedly enough to hesitate when a dev expects investors to stand out on a limb. Your word simply is'nt good enough in the market you're in. Clustercoin would benefit greatly from a gesture of good faith; that you won't run off with the funding. Innovation and development will mean nothing if you cant get the community to believe in your coin, and "havent scammed yet" doesnt cut it. Just look at the graveyard of dead "innovative" coins behind you for an example +1, I definitely believe the faith&trust are the most important things in altcoin world |
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good, no FUD here, not like CLSTR with too many idiots' FUDs
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I sent a pm to btc38, hope btc38 will know CLSTR and list CLSTR to their recommend coin list.
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