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3601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LISK a real Ethereum Competitor? on: November 16, 2017, 10:44:25 AM


Well, I got to say $11.12 USD ...is making me damn happy......

go baby go.......

Now if Lisk can just have 10 bucks as a permanent floor price Smiley

I'd be estatic...(till my greedy self would start yelling at the chart to go to $20 USD.)

sigh....
3602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LISK a real Ethereum Competitor? on: November 16, 2017, 06:26:51 AM
Lol! No
Lisk is lisk and ETH is ETH. At the movement the is no comparison in between them at all. In the future this may or may not be changed. Ethereum is a real working product which is backed up by biggest companies and LISK is still just a concept so don't try to compare the non existing thing with the real one.

conceptually it is working damn fine for me Smiley

3603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2017, 06:25:22 AM
Me too.

However, if I was better with photoshop I'd replace the grass and trees in the background with moon craters.

Let's see. That would be the moon, trains, Sparta and Carolina. Have we left anything else out?

Lambo?

The honey badger? Maybe on top of the train... or inside the lambo.

And a pistol-wielding cat riding a bucking unicorn spewing flames from its mouth.


add this to the above also as the official music that should be used by all traders on this thread

seems fitting indeed "Secret Agent Man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMw4WpWD0jk

3604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LISK a real Ethereum Competitor? on: November 16, 2017, 06:20:27 AM


Well to revive this dead link....Lisk is now at $9.45 this date...so I'm guite happy

I got in on the ICO with my 1 BTC of lisk ...back in the day!



What was your bought price? You are one of the rich man with LISK! Cheesy

I think 1 BTC was around $650 ..guessing...

but yeah, sometimes dumb and lucky works

on the other hand, a bit before the same buddy talked me out of getting Ether (ETH) at 1 BTC = 990 ETH

I remember staring at that screen a lot and passing

so many missed boats, it is hard to keep track

3605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Here is the list of altcoin you should watch out for on: November 16, 2017, 06:17:26 AM


Lisk is $9.57 as we speak. 12:16 AM CST USA 11/16/17.....glad a buddy talked me into getting 1 BTC worth, back on the ICO launch.

(mainly, got 1 BTC worth, because he got 10 BTC worth and I figured if it all went Tulips..I'd have to talk him

down off the microwave tower near his house!) Of course, BTC was probably $650 or some such then.

Sometimes it pays to be dumb and lucky. Smiley

Fun to watch thou!

3606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LISK a real Ethereum Competitor? on: November 16, 2017, 06:06:36 AM


Well to revive this dead link....Lisk is now at $9.45 this date...so I'm guite happy

I got in on the ICO with my 1 BTC of lisk ...back in the day!

3607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 16, 2017, 06:02:49 AM
dash is gonna triple up before xmas


big woop...my D3 with the difficulty rise of the other 3 or 4 batches of D3's yet to hit the world and the 30gh late A5 units

I might just creep back to above $14 bucks/day for both my D3's at 35gh 1900 watts and 12c kwh

not gonna make a lot of diff on the 4.5k invested w/psu's and shipping

oh well, better than the IRS getting it I suppose....


3608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 16, 2017, 03:28:40 AM

Well, these things are not gonna last long at this rate

$3.38/day dash on a 17.5gh 950 watt at 12c kwh setup

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/dash?HashingPower=17.5&HashingUnit=GH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=950&CostPerkWh=0.12

Ugly, Ugly...and considering I have one (above) only getting 16gh and my 2nd D3 doing OK

I am getting around 35gh for both

so $6.76 per day! (dare to dream.......) FML

The ONLY way this would pay in Minnesota..is if you used them as a 'space heater' to heat your Ice House....fishing on a frozen lake ..near a Burger King
or some biz with FREE wi-fi

(man ..I had to reach far to find something this would make sense to use a D3 for ...at this point in time) Sad

3609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer D3 firmware modification thread (voltage & fan mods) on: November 15, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
Almost finished: the webinterface is modified as well now. Only need to test for a proper voltage range, and make a package.
The first release will be on the save side, as I don't want you guys to brick your miners, so please have a bit more patience Cool

at the prices, we are getting now...and 4 or more batches of D3's in the wind yet to arrive and the corresponding difficulty pump

bricking them at this point may not matter much Sad

Indeed, I should send mine to the company that 'bronzes baby shoes'

just to have a small trophy, when they stick me in the old folks home someday on a reminder of my 'silly youth'





3610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2017, 03:27:44 PM

I would guickly name a 'goldfish' DICK....(sorry Dick you may have to take one for the 'cause')
3611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2017, 03:26:43 PM
if BCH stays as an ALT ..conflicted.....(might buckle if moves to alt status....all them $$$ from the air)

What do you mean "if"? BCH *IS* an altcoin. By every definition of what is an altcoin. Doesn't matter if it started life as a BTC fork. It is an ALTCOIN.

Wake up dude.


I should have been more clear...I meant....as an ALT coin..it keeps SOME value....say 400 to 500 bucks

sorry about that

but at 400 to 500 bucks say .... well hell...keep it and think of it as an ALT

at 1,200 bucks and if it goes up more or less at same proportion to BTC as it is a fork

I will be utterly befuddled

3612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2017, 02:37:09 PM
Just a note along the lines of "Twilight Zone" stuff in cryptoland..

NOT a big fan of forked coins....(in a previous post I bet BCH would go down to 12c ..oops)

on the other hand...all that supposed 'free money'

I'm conflicted..I just added up all my ALTs and BTC and LTC

toss in the price of BCH and 'supposed' BTG to these so-called 'paper profits' on top of my BTC hoard

also some staking from LISK etc type stuff..signature campaign on bitcointalk etc

and sh*t, I had to sit down....sh*t is getting real...if BCH stays as an ALT ..conflicted.....(might buckle if moves to alt status....all them $$$ from the air)

(and I"m not even in WHALE territory)

the speed of everything since January 2017 till now, I can't decide if it is

exhilarating or frigging terrifying

befuddled


3613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 15, 2017, 06:23:09 AM
Ambient temp is 10°C and Chip temperature is 72°C at november w/o overclock so Shitmain will burn all miners at begining of april.

Dont buy this shitty companies product or coin like bitcoin crash.
i bought the bitshit with 5000$ and arrive today i dont know when i will return the d3 shity cost

I'm 4K into this...I'm at a 50% tax rate and have 25% equip ded

this year off full amount (usa) (instead of 5 yr depr) towards taxes I will owe. So I have some 'ego' cover....

So hell, I just need to get to 25% back on these 2 D3' about $1, 250 with psu's and shipping etc... to call it a 'draw' rather than pay the IRS/State Taxes and of

course equip deduction tax angle this year...

THAT almost looks unlikely as an EGO PROTECTION TOOL.... (which I need desperately)

could be rough running these long enough to even get the 25% back ..plus electricity

However, does not get around the fact that I did fall for their  "Bitmain Toaster Fest"...hook line and Sinker..(the newbie lurks within it seems)

BTF: Bitmain Toaster Fest (I like it..I may use it as a personal meme)

ER ...wait must stay pissed off ...can't be distracted by meme's  (oh....look a cute kitty meme...awwww..) Smiley





3614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China to slap down on cheap hydro electric for Miners? Significantly Up Elec? on: November 15, 2017, 04:48:24 AM
On reflection...assuming the electric companies in China ...are not too greedy and just want some of the action in elec fees from the minnig boom

this could be good for mining overseas from China and thus any price of electric that is more in China will (in my current view) raise the price of BTC

and/or other pow scrypt or x11 crypto mines or sha-256 in China

whatever, my mood/view can change at any time...all above my head.

3615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 14, 2017, 02:48:42 PM
I am hearing A LOT of talk about China banning Mining again...

Is this a rumor?

off topic:

I started a thread on such ..rumor that it is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2401962.msg24570166#msg24570166

no idea if true..but with china having issues with bitcoin and crypto if I was an electric utility

charging them more $$$ and getting them from 'off the books' wink, wink would be the play I'd make

as to how all this plays out on price of BTC or Alts or whatever ...no clue

.not gonna save our D3's however Sad
3616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China to slap down on cheap hydro electric for Miners? on: November 14, 2017, 02:39:40 PM
I'm really not sure if this will happen or not. However, the Chinese are having a hell of a time cracking down on money fleeing their country. Bitcoin is high on their radars for sure.

But with mining money is coming in. They have bills to pay for electricity and hardware that have to settled in CNY.

I've no idea where they're selling their coins but I don't know if P2P markets would be big or stable enough to meet that demand. If I was a Chinese miner I'd be selling OTC to some foreigner.


Bitmain did announce a while back they were gonna invest in data halls in the USA. Unclear if it was only the Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) stuff and/or crypto mining farms also. $50 million dollars thou...


https://www.coindesk.com/mining-giant-bitmain-reportedly-raising-50-million-in-new-funding-round/

perhaps, Jihan Wu of Bitmain...is hedging his bets?




I seem to remeber reading a report that a lot of Chinese mining was using stolen electricity, but I don't know how old that report is, and I can't find the reference. However, it has been commented on this forum that many Chinese miners are now mining outside China. It would also appear that mining is on the increase in Venezuela as people there try to earn some extra income.


That is common knowledge...it may not be COMPLETELY illegal the electric companies (especially hyrdro) were getting SOMETHING (in hydro's case anyway) for excess electric...off the books

perhaps, they want a bigger cut and have it out in the open now..due to the China Government crackdown on cryptocurrency...maybe mining is next in the utils veiws..and makes them nervous

the utils can look like they are pro-active on this, get more $$$ for electric and keep the China Government off their back if they do go after crypto miners next...

the utils seem to hold all the cards, seems like a safe bet to make the miners pay fair market value and get it on the books ...soonish


3617  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China to slap down on cheap hydro electric for Miners? on: November 14, 2017, 02:32:22 PM
I can see why China would stop trading. I don't see why they'd stop mining. They're getting foreign currency pouring in and there's a load of power generation going spare anyway.

I really wish it would happen but it won't. Even then the Chinese miners would identify the next cheapest country and ship all their gear there or sell out to people in that country.

Centralised mining is here to stay no matter what unless something fundamental is changed in the protocol.  


Assuming you are correct......the question is NOT if the mining will go away, but what happens if the price of electric doubles because the electric companies (with gov't blessing)

decide to go after the crypto miners for more of a CUT?  (think elec=mafia..they don't want to likely kill the goose..just roast it a little)

Hell, I wonder what would happen if, instead of 2c kwh they had to pay equivalent of 6c or like me 12c kwh

what would be the effect on BTC and/or other crypto mined by big miners in China on price/adoption/etc

(got imaginary butter for my imaginary popcorn..that is much better now) Smiley

3618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China to slap down on cheap hydro electric for Miners? on: November 14, 2017, 02:29:13 PM

source below is from monsanto on bitciontalk speculation thread

seems they may have backed off the 'illegal' part....I still think they are gonna hit them up with higher prices...

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/930436656045342720


(damn, imaginary popcorn needs more 'butter')

3619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2017, 02:27:15 PM
https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/930436656045342720

Quote
The head of that company has clarified that they made mistakes on the statement, as they are not a government administrative department, and have no rights to determine whether bitcoin mining is illegal

This guy tends to be accurate.

Again, I know zip..but at first glance still looks like they price of electric in some manner for bitcoin operators (and/or other crypto farms) is gonna
go up in a big way at least in that area of China

and if there is more money to be made....it will likely spread

that is of course unless the electric power generators get a 'cut of the action' for their excess power ...ie more locked down legally....

(hey, it is what I'd do....start tossing cash about at them ..see what sticks)

3620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
It's true, Chinese mining crackdown incoming. Jihan Wu didn't show up for the mining panel today at ETCsummit, he was 'sick'  Roll Eyes

Still recovering from this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfAnshCKW9s&feature=youtu.be


I've no idea what this would mean for BTC and or Alts...started a thread on this

befuddled on what it may mean long-term

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2401962.0

It does look at first glance, something that China crypto miners could not get around forever thou...

feel free to comment in the above thread...I've no clue....(this whole month has made my head hurt ...with all the fud/drama/etc in crypto)

take the poll....

(ignore my thread..likely everyone else will) Smiley


Hope he gets better soon and I mean that most sincerely, as he has plenty to do.
Is there a 12 step program for recovering megalomaniacs in his neck of the woods?

had to reply to this...DAMN IT! ...you made me 'spray pop out of my nose' reading this

It is a good point....what happens to a megalomaniac when it all goes off the rails? Does he become the opposite? Ghandi perhaps? Does he double down on the Meglamanic option?

(gets popcorn will be interesting week ..if this whole cheap electric china crackdown has any credibility..this will be quite the sh*t show Smiley





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