that's the thing though, he never signed anything. i don't know why you think that now. he faked some signature and refused to show it publicly because he knew if he did do that, people would catch his fraud in matter of seconds. so he paid Gavin to lie for him. it is harder to prove someone lied to prove a cryptographic signature is a lie.
You think Gavin would take some bribe and spread a lie ,what ever Craig showed was convincing enough for him and remember he did have contact with the real Satoshi and if you did have contact with a man as long as he did with Satoshi through any medium you could identify him if you meet him in person that being said i am not convinced either who the real Satoshi is unless i see the proof myself. there are only two possibilities about why Gavin posted his blog post about CW being Satoshi: - either he is so naive that he was easily fooled into believing the proof was legit - or he was paid to lie about it. he was flown to London, all paid and shit... to save face Gavin later corrected himself and said he was wrong. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/gavin-andersen-craig-wright-blog-mistake/https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/technical-proof-craig-wright-not-satoshi-nakamoto/enjoy reading. what about: Gavin was shown a different proof? |
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BTW, Satoshi owes me no proof.
Yes he does. In fact, if he's satoshi he literally needs to spend two minutes to boot up a computer and sign a message or send a transaction. The fact that he will not do that pretty much confirms that he's not satoshi. Especially when he won't provide any explanation for not doing that. He doesn't say "I'm sorry, I lost the keys", he tries to provide a fake signature and then evades questions afterwards. that's the thing though, he never signed anything. i don't know why you think that now. he faked some signature and refused to show it publicly because he knew if he did do that, people would catch his fraud in matter of seconds. so he paid Gavin to lie for him. it is harder to prove someone lied to prove a cryptographic signature is a lie.
if you did have contact with a man as long as he did with Satoshi through any medium you could identify him if you meet him in person Gavin later conceded that he made a mistake. Sorry. I decide here. Thx pa. |
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Atomic Swaps sind geil, gehen aber mit einigen anderen Altcoins schon laaaaaaaaaange (Qora/Burst seit dem Jahr 2015!). Z.B. für Zcash<->BTC gibt es schon eine halbwegs nutzbare Software, dito für Komodo (Barterdex). Beide allerdings afaik command line und Alpha/Beta-Stadium, aber wohl schon nutzbar (habs selbst noch nicht probiert). Das Problem ist bisher die Benutzbarkeit, eine schöne GUI hat noch keine der Lösungen. Qora hat eine GUI, die ist aber alles andere als "schön", und spielt auch (noch) nicht mit Bitcoin zusammen. Dazu kommt, dass es noch nicht mit SPV-Wallets möglich ist, man also immer die gesamte Chain beider Coins braucht. Der Vorteil des Lightning-Verfahrens ist, soweit ich das überblicke, dass es sich damit um "quasi-dezentrale off-chain Atomic Swaps" handelt, also mit einem Channel (=2 Transaktionen, öffnen und schließen) mehrere Trades gebündelt werden können und damit prinzipiell auch Hochfrequenz-Trading möglich sein sollte. Ich hoffe jedenfalls, dass die Atomic-Swap-Technologie sich jetzt echt mal wirklich verbreitet. Das dürfte auch für den Kursverlauf förderlich sein (um zum Thema zurückzukommen)  altcoin.io sieht ziemlich vielversprechend aus https://vimeo.com/243218358Wo ist der Unterschied zu changelly oder shapeshift? Evtl weniger middle men fee. Durch geringe Volumina / schlechtes Matching kann das aber auch wieder hohe Spreads bedeuten, also evtl sogar teurer werden. Die hohnen BTC txs fees wird man aber nicht los damit, zumindest nicht der Ottonormal user ... |
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I do not think anyone can say when the next pump comes.
I guess when they stop mining on the old chain Which old chain the EDA or core because both are being mined If you reall thinky so, than start another ANN for your trolling coin. Otherwise you're just here for destruction.. Yahhhwn! |
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Roger is not the owner of BCH! He owns lots of bch he claims but is not the owner. bwahahaha are you really that off? This must be another hero member turned troll attempt yes? Anyway, there is a new pool added for bch: Oooohh, the pixel in the centre looks too much centralized! Get paranoid folks!  |
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The amount of people in this Thread that boast a Trust: -2: -1 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! is too high.
What with Lauda running roughshod though this thread, and tagging everyone who points out that Bitcoin Cash was Bitcoin before Bitcoin Segwit was Bitcoin with negative trust, what would you expect? LoL, is this where you neg trust has its origin? We should have an extra category for BCH is the real bitcoin promoters |
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More than likely he was involved in a plot against the real Satoshi.
More than likely he’s got a new lambo and doesn’t give two bits about your opinion. Did you dump your BTC for BCH yet? I'd be rather concerned about his data, knowledge and ideas than about his lambo. BTW, Satoshi owes me no proof. |
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Bitcoin on-chain cannot taken down by regulators, but LN and 2nd Layers by high chance could.
That's why on-chain scaling is way more secure and important than off-chain technobubbles.
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jbreher is actively trying to destroy bitcoin.
Just no. You couldn't be further from the truth. Not only am I not trying to destroy bitcoin, I am trying to save it. Hell, I am not even trying to destroy Bitcoin Segwit. Such a postulate would be ludicrous, as I hold more BTC than I could possibly make through 'normal' means such as my salary -- and I am within the USA 6%* top in that regard -- if I worked for the rest of my life. *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Distribution_of_household_income_in_2014_according_to_US_Census_data It is true that in my analysis, I find Bitcoin Cash to be superior to Bitcoin Segwit. For everyone. Except maybe those who have invested their reputation in core. And my statements are largely positive on BCH. But the only negative statements I make on BTC, are in relation to the manners in which it is lacking compared to BCH. And always truthful - at least to the best of my knowledge. Hilarious Bitcoin gets destroyed by a single guy postings. How brain death . . . How many times bitcoin was declared dead ? 101 ? |
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It is not useful to allow dishonest people to operate in a rules based environment where the ultimate foundation of the entire project is honesty.
Bitcoin is whatever the consensus mechanism decides it is. That was the original idea and one of the foundational pillars of what makes bitcoin as an idea able to function at all, and the result is in. Continuing to complain about it, and even going to far as to split the blockchain in two, is nothing short of an attempt to undermine bitcoin as a whole. They are enemies, not only of the personal wealth of many of us here, but far more importantly they are enemies of a lifeboat for countless millions of people when the economy collapses. They are, in a word, evil, right down to their core.
Bitcoin is broken due to high fees and unreliable confirmation times. - I want to help bank the billions of unbanked across the world. - I want a low-friction form of money that people in Venezuela or the next Zimbabwe can use to escape hyperinflation. - I want a border-less form of money that the people or Argentina can use to bypass capital controls. - I want a transportable form of money that I can pay to a programmer in India for work on the Bitcoin Unlimited website, thereby helping bring disenfranchised groups across the world out of poverty. - I want bitcoin to be so massively adopted that it becomes politically impossible to shut down, ending governments ability to raise money for war and other atrocities with the stealth-tax of inflation. You cannot achieve those goals with a crippled bitcoin limited to 3 transactions per second (and no, LN is no panacea either, but that's another discussion). And then you call me evil for working to bring bitcoin back to its original vision as better money that would improve the lives of people all across the world. Give you head a shake, Ibian. Maybe you should mention more clearly that we all want that above and at best with same (on-chain) security as bitcoin has shown us to work very fine over about 9 years now (sadly only with 1MB blocks yet). All other ways are totally unproven technobubble experiments which need to aprove security for many years bevore we want to release them to these poorest people on earth who really need the BEST security we can give them or they might lose their very last stakes as well which could mean their death! Dont forget that we rich here can afford to lose a bit at these new experiments but have no rights ever to play with poor ppls money! |
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LoL Ask him for beers. Burgers? Amazon books? The potential for low fee is higher by many dimensions. |
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Yes,it is risk to buy bch now, now must wait again.
why this pumps happen midnight weekends lol South Korea is very active there. Not sure because of Chinese or Samsung or both... |
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Show stopper bug im Fork code.
Hat ein Block zu früh auf >1MB gewartet.... weia.
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This is the exact reason BTC has a whole 2 week difficulty adjust and not some short quick if no hashing is available downward adjust
The EDA was designed to stop the bcash chain dying and now it's being used against it because now the EDA is allowing the old chain to be mineable on lesser hardware and being used to attack9
Im not sure on the legibility but there was talks that the EDA could actually cause a chain reorg where the SPV wallets could start following this EDA chain over the DAA one
OK lemme get this straight, a fork that is 100 blocks behind the main chain is a threat how? And someone is going to replay transactions on this sh!tchain and anyone will care? That chain is not a coin, it's worthless! I really hope you're not losing too much sleep about that. Or, maybe you should convince an exchange to list that defunct chain? Also how is your Bitcoin Gold investment faring? I tried to tell you to GTFO before the dump. Looks like Vitalik got some death threats? Or he just can't take anymore whining... I thoroughly enjoyed his twitter threads taking apart Kore devs piece by piece - they were sabotaging him so much he built his own chain... http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/11/14/vitalik-buterin-silenced-wont-comment-bitcoin-issues100 blocks behind with the EDA dropping the difficulty fast then all it needs is some more hashing power and it can get through a full 2016 period in a matter of days remember when cash was so far behind btc and the eda helped it get 9000+ infront well the same can happen here As for gold im good thanks it was all free and the extra I have gained was mined for next to nothing minus the little bit I bought I am well in front You're right, the chain could become longer quickly with empty blocks... but again, if there is no support, no coin. My guess would be that anyone mining it is just trying to FUD BCH. Furthermore, weren't you the one who was screaming about BCH hyperinflation when the blocks were coming too fast? You can't have it both ways. Glad you got out of Bitcoin Gold. That's one that even I was tempted to short... Question would be: Is it economical relevant ? Is there a market and so pays for the miners ? I cannot see - so miners will starve here. |
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Ist da wirklich überhaupt nix dahinter? Also kein einsamer Miner/Poolbesitzer, der aus dem Small Blocker Lager kommt und die Cash'ler etwas ärgern möchte? Hier steht ja, die Original-Chain habe tatsächlich bis gestern überlebt und dann ein paar neue Blöcke gefunden. Wobei ich bei dem Namen nicht unbedingt davon ausgehe, dass die Chain lange überlebt ...  Sieht mir auch nach 'billigem' Versuch aus, Replay Attacken und Trollings zu fahren - der alte EDA hilft hierbei. -- Mein Boden von 0.14 wurde bei der Messerfall-Dynamik ordentlich durchbrochen - jetzt aber wieder im Rebound höher. Das Wochenende kann durchaus nochmal gepflegter Kampfplatz sein .... Hashpower und Mining-Gewin-Verhältnis zu BTC zieht auch an. Edit: WOW : Kaum geschrieben auf 0.16 - angestossen(Wiederstand) und wieder runter. Das Low heute Nacht ( 2:00) war um die 0.11 - > in 7 Stunden auf 0.16 !! Die Vola UND der Umsatz sind brutal ! Vorwiegend sind es wohl die Süd-Koreaner, die den Markt machen - sowas 'heisses' habe ich seit den Japanischen Optionsscheinmärkten ende 80er Jahre nicht mehr gesehen - also VORSICHT !!! |
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 What is going on with BCH? I guess there are too much of bitcoins: So now we have: Bitcoin Bitcoin Gold Bitcoin Cash (Clashic) BCash (Jihan Wu coin) This is the exact reason BTC has a whole 2 week difficulty adjust and not some short quick if no hashing is available downward adjust The EDA was designed to stop the bcash chain dying and now it's being used against it because now the EDA is allowing the old chain to be mineable on lesser hardware and being used to attack Im not sure on the legibility but there was talks that the EDA could actually cause a chain reorg where the SPV wallets could start following this EDA chain over the DAA one Nice try to spread FUD - trolls - haha |
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MySpace Kodak Nokia all missed the boat and I'm sure, they all had a very good, but very central dev team stunning. bitcoin has a tidal wave of innovation coming being worked on by thousands of different people and companies. bcash, uh, glued some bigger blocks to that little one. Cool - so welcome to competition - can only be good for all of us |
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MySpace Kodak Nokia all missed the boat and I'm sure, they all had a very good, but very central dev team Bitcoin will continue to dominate. That's not to say there won't be a place for Bitcoin Cash and others like it. In my opinion, consumers should see Bitcoin as a long term investment rather than a means to make every day purchases. If Bitcoin fees come down, that will change things, of course. Consumers obviously hate fees, but I wonder if higher fees help to make Bitcoin more valuable from an investor's perspective. With these high fees and bad usability BlockstreamBitcoin is only useful for the rich and speculators. The masses and the poor users need low fees - that's the thing. Sure speculators will still speculate - but better is make Bitcoin easy to use for the poor! |
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