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3621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We should have known about Ralph Northam's yearbooks long ago on: February 03, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
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Actually, you are displaying your own ignorance. I dont talk about shit I haven't researched, that's how you look foolish Wink Educate yourself, from the Office of Citizenship and Immigration Services:....

Most of what I've seen on the illegals is they cross the border one way or another; often just walk across at a major city, then take up a job at their buddy's taco joint and don't go back.

All this talk about filling out forms and legal procedures, that's just not how these people think.
3622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: February 03, 2019, 03:10:11 AM
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The reason you don't like the Catholic process is because the kids were not indoctrinated with ideas similar to yours.

This was the false assumption in bold.

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I don't see these things as any big deal whatsoever. If you picked a baptist high school, or a muslim high school, you'd have an identical or likely worse liturgy of complaints. Same with a public high school.
The kids didn't pick the school.  Thats the point.
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As for your laughable "student run protests" we know that many of them were organized and actually run by Russian communists, don't we?

I was talking about the climate march and the walk for our lives.

Got it. So you'd like to tell everyone about your agonizing history growing up in a catholic school. You'd like to skirt the issue of most "student run protests" really are designed by non-student agitators and always have been.

And none of this has anything to do with the injustice heaped on good Covington students, who were unfairly abused and attacked first by 2 groups at the event, and then by the media, including yourself.

You, like them, would like to barrage negatives on the Covington students. You'd like to point out all their faults. If it's not their fault, it's their schools' fault. They're ignorant drones. wearing MAGA hats. The schools are bad. There has to be some BAD there SOMEWHERE.

And you are on a mission to find it. Meanwhile you're ignoring, and even encouraging, the evil that's right in front of you, and us. The behavior of you, others of your persuasion, and the media toward the Covington students.

I think that's very unfair and hateful.

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I haven't seen anyone make threats on those kids . .....

Of course you have not, you'd have to read something other than Pravda or the US media equivalents. They received hundreds of threats.


https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/24/prosecutors-hundreds-threats-made-covington-high-students/
3623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: February 02, 2019, 01:51:28 PM
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But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.
False assumption. .....

No, it's not a false assumption. It's exactly what happened, isn't it?
3624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: February 02, 2019, 01:49:26 PM


Does Musk have anything more than simple talk for this idea?


It does not matter. You look at the physics and get the answer, period.
3625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: February 01, 2019, 10:15:50 PM
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I don't have any interest in arguing with you if you don't understand something I said.

The steam takes up the shatter vibration and disburses and disipates it into the atmosphere, harmlessly. ....
Cool
No it does not but if you want to keep at it, please show your equations.
3626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: February 01, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
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This is a good question... a difficult one to visualize without computer models. The heat is dissipated by not even reaching the rocket skin. It is dissipated in the steam. ....

Intriguing question. Did Musk run the simulations? Or is he only talking at this stage of the game?

Cool

It's not that complicated a problem.

Neither is it any kind of an important problem.

"Water ejected at the nosecone" would literally be exploding in the local environment, as measured by joules released per pound of high explosive versus joules absorbed by the water ejected. This explosion would create a back pressure wave against the spaceship, that will directly impact its surface. Because that wave's speed is higher than the speed of sound in stainless steel, the structures made of stainless will disintegrate.

It's not steam as you are thinking of it.

I was fortunate one time to see the plasma trail of a shuttle re entry, that was a white column across the sky about the size of the Moon east to west. It dissipated within a minute or two. That trail was disassociated atoms from the heat of re entry....


You said it. Disassociated water. Taking the heat of re-entry along with it so that it doesn't harm the vehicle.

Cool
What I said was that the vehicle would disintegrate.


You contradicted it with the water disassociation.     Cool

I don't have any interest in arguing with you if you don't understand something I said.
3627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: February 01, 2019, 03:47:56 PM
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You mentioned other, student led protests which is very different from the walk for life.  The students do not lead the walk for life.  It isn't their idea.  The catholic community has been in opposition to Roe V Wade forever.  They use the students as pawns.  
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I don't see these things as any big deal whatsoever. If you picked a baptist high school, or a muslim high school, you'd have an identical or likely worse liturgy of complaints. Same with a public high school.

As for your laughable "student run protests" we know that many of them were organized and actually run by Russian communists, don't we?
3628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: February 01, 2019, 04:36:05 AM
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This is a good question... a difficult one to visualize without computer models. The heat is dissipated by not even reaching the rocket skin. It is dissipated in the steam. ....

Intriguing question. Did Musk run the simulations? Or is he only talking at this stage of the game?

Cool

It's not that complicated a problem.

Neither is it any kind of an important problem.

"Water ejected at the nosecone" would literally be exploding in the local environment, as measured by joules released per pound of high explosive versus joules absorbed by the water ejected. This explosion would create a back pressure wave against the spaceship, that will directly impact its surface. Because that wave's speed is higher than the speed of sound in stainless steel, the structures made of stainless will disintegrate.

It's not steam as you are thinking of it.

I was fortunate one time to see the plasma trail of a shuttle re entry, that was a white column across the sky about the size of the Moon east to west. It dissipated within a minute or two. That trail was disassociated atoms from the heat of re entry....


You said it. Disassociated water. Taking the heat of re-entry along with it so that it doesn't harm the vehicle.

Cool
What I said was that the vehicle would disintegrate.
3629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: February 01, 2019, 04:33:17 AM
.....Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.
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You may know this community, but you have a way of looking at things that leads you to incorrect conclusions.

"Sex ed" is totally irrelevant to how people learn about sex. In fact school is largely irrelevant to the learning process, with certain exceptions. What you favor is cultural indoctrination, only you favor YOUR KIND OF IT WITH YOUR IDEAS.

The reason you don't like the Catholic process is because the kids were not indoctrinated with ideas similar to yours.

In the last two years there have been a large number of times schools and universities have let students off for days to engage in various kinds of protests, Covington is only unusual in that this is right wing. There's a rule set applied to right wing, it has to be harshly condemned. Another rule set applies to liberal protests, of course.

But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.
3630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: January 31, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
The effect and proof of climate change is obvious for all to see, wondering why people ar still skeptical about climate change.
According to wikipedia it is the  Climate change is a change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns when that change lasts for an extended period of time. This is real and obvious in our society.

By it's very definition, "Climate" is three successive ten year histories.

So suppose you have these decades. 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000.

Using statistics, you define climate for 1950-1979. You can then discuss "climate change" relating to the period 1960-1989. That's assuming you don't have cooked or slanted data.

By it's very nature, the effect and proof or lack of effect, and lack of proof, is HISTORICAL.

It's not "obvious for all to see." Quite the reverse.

What you are referring to is things like the hot day in August, when the media blitz talks about the "unprecedented heat wave." You are talking about propaganda, pure and simple.



3631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without borders? on: January 31, 2019, 12:37:05 PM
But the borders only restrict poor people.  Terrorists and business travelers have enough resources to where they barely even notice borders in their day to day lives.  A pandemic does not care if you have a visa.   Crossing any border has never been more than a 5 minute inconvenience in my life but for many people, crossing a border will be the most difficult thing in their entire life.

5 minute?

That's not the US Southern Border, unless you live by a tiny outpost town like Columbo. Most crossings take hours to get across.
3632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: January 31, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.
I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

The MAGA hat isn't a "provocative political statement." It's a hat that was a trademark of the MAJORITY VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION. The reaction to it was provocation, direct and simple.
3633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: January 31, 2019, 04:32:43 AM
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This is a good question... a difficult one to visualize without computer models. The heat is dissipated by not even reaching the rocket skin. It is dissipated in the steam. ....

Intriguing question. Did Musk run the simulations? Or is he only talking at this stage of the game?

Cool

It's not that complicated a problem.

Neither is it any kind of an important problem.

"Water ejected at the nosecone" would literally be exploding in the local environment, as measured by joules released per pound of high explosive versus joules absorbed by the water ejected. This explosion would create a back pressure wave against the spaceship, that will directly impact its surface. Because that wave's speed is higher than the speed of sound in stainless steel, the structures made of stainless will disintegrate.

It's not steam as you are thinking of it.

I was fortunate one time to see the plasma trail of a shuttle re entry, that was a white column across the sky about the size of the Moon east to west. It dissipated within a minute or two. That trail was disassociated atoms from the heat of re entry....
3634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nike Shoe offends Muslims wtf on: January 31, 2019, 04:12:24 AM
If the shoes said "Fuck Allah" or "Allah was a pedophile", I would buy them as a collector's item.

Insulting religion is not a crime.  We should be able to make fun of STUPID ideas no matter how crazy they are.

I've read that for automobiles, considerable study is done on whether a new proposed name offends anyone in any particular language. Because the cars are sold worldwide and nobody wants a car which has a name which is, say, "SHIT" in that language.

Should Nike pay attention in such a matter? Sure.

But how far? Here the objection is to a part of the phrase taken out of context and said to mean something different than intended. I'm curious what an average muslim would think of this matter.
3635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nike Shoe offends Muslims wtf on: January 30, 2019, 11:41:39 PM
So Nike has a pair of shoes out and the Writing on the bottom resembles the Word God or Allah and Muslim Snowflakes are offended.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/thousands-demand-nike-pull-air-max-270-off-shelves-over-offensive-logo

It's ok to Kill Christians and Stone people to death or throw Gay people off roofs but God forbid Nike has this.

I'm going to be buying a pair and Walk through Pig Shit just because i can.

Is there anything that Doesn't offend the Delicate Muslim Religion?

So a lot of cultures have some big deal about showing the bottom of your shoes.

Given that I can see why they don't like god on the bottom of shoes.

But if you look at the video, they've singled out about the middle 1/2 of a phrase, basically a "V" and a "W", and say they don't like that.

So nothing should be offensive IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE?

That's crazy.
3636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: January 30, 2019, 04:40:54 PM
I am sure a lot of you like me tried really hard to ignore this situation as it was clearly a non-story, but the way the MSM has been covering it, the fact that it is a non-story has itself become a story.

This event was very telling of how willing the media is to lie and scream racism at the expense of causing children and their families to be mobbed, threatened, and harassed based on no evidence and how the irrational psychotic hatred manifests from the left for anyone they see simply supporting Trump.

In their mind the only way you could ever support him is if you are an active card carrying member of the KKK with a full swastika tattoo on your chest, therefore violence is justified. After all he is Hitler, and his followers are Nazis, so it is only just to stop them with violence isn't it? This event just showed how eager the left is to kill when the media tells them to. This is symptomatic of a very dangerous and serious trend not just in the US, but world wide.

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The historical antecedent for this type of behavior was a pre-WW2 phenomena in Germany today called "brownshirts." The tactics and methods of the brownshirts pre-WW2 are EXACTLY what is being promulgated today. The MSM's Covington warping-of-the-story to meet the predetermined objectives is an excellent example, but only one of many.

For those who have not heard the term "brownshirt", here is Wikipedia's summary. Bolding is mine.

The Sturmabteilung....literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's original paramilitary. It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Its primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Romanis, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.

The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color of their uniform shirts, similar to Benito Mussolini's blackshirts. The SA developed pseudo-military titles for its members, with ranks that were later adopted by several other Nazi Party groups, chief amongst them the Schutzstaffel (SS), which originated as a branch of the SA before being separated. Brown-colored shirts were chosen as the SA uniform because a large number of them were cheaply available after World War I.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
3637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without borders? on: January 30, 2019, 04:12:35 PM
I thought "borders" in the thread title referred to political international borders but it seems many users have taken "borders" to mean any and all boundaries including boundaries for personal space such as doors, locks, and personal homes.  Its strange because no one has ever advocated for a world without the latter.

It's called taking a basically shitty idea and exaggerating it so that everyone can see what a shitty idea it is.
3638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Trump really need to change his looks, to be taken seriously?. on: January 30, 2019, 04:09:48 PM

First, I thought this thread was another Trump bashing thing so didn't read it but now I have and you have a serious point.

Yes it would help his "image and presentation."

But he's campaigned against many who were all image and all presentation and beat them all.

😂 when ever you see my post on trump, just know it's a discussion for his benefit. I'm not one of those anti-trump users. I have been a fan from day one although when I see some wrong I don't support them. I just wish we had a trump in our country. I want him to change his look and other stuffs too so people can start taking him seriously

I understood what you said exactly. I view Trump as a quite eccentric genius, and don't really care if a lot of people hear him say something that sounds like it comes from an IQ85 person, and think "that's him."

Well, the ability to talk to people at their own level is an ABILITY, not the PERSON. I can talk with/as if I was several dialects of English. So what.

3639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you sell your soul for money ? Isnt it obvious money is the problem tday. on: January 30, 2019, 01:20:33 PM
What would be the counterpart of selling your soul? everlasting punishment? if that's going to be the reward, I'm fine doing stuffs on my own and I can endure having no cash and food to eat for a bit of time since I was raised to had enough and be contented what I have.

I think I can survive a bit but not for too long.

Yes, money is one of the popular problem of the world today. It results to many major problems such famine, lack of education, health problems and other issues that the world has facing. Where have you got this idea? from conspiracies?


Money is the root of all evil . No Joke.

Money is the tool used to manipulate the human race keep them as slaves

Human Resource they say.


The counter part of selling your soul would be fighting for freedom and willing to die for it. Cry

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I heard that story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4
3640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: January 30, 2019, 01:09:59 PM
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You are wrong. There is a spacecraft planned, its what goes on top of the bfr "Super Heavy"... Called "Starship":



In this CGI picture the launch vehicle "Super Heavy" is returning back to earth while the spacecraft "Starship" goes to an earth orbit to refuel with a similar shaped (but fuel only) vessel; to then carry on with its mission carrying people and cargo.

Here is the official site of their plans: https://www.spacex.com/mars
And here are more details of the spacecraft: http://spaceflight101.com/spx/its-spaceship/

Some quick back-of-the-envelope calculations tell me this will burn up on re entry 100% reliably.

I tried to post this but seem to have messed up a prior post.

Anyway the idea was to use stainless steel with water cooling the skin for the heat of re entry. But using numbers for the Space Shuttle, that would take the better part of 2000 kilotons of water.

Double that for a return from Mars or the Moon.

Maybe I'm not thinking about this clearly, but, when they use liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen as fuel, the result coming out of the rocket engine is water... in vapor form, of course. My question is, why wouldn't a returning rocket be able to ride on a thin layer of water vapor?

If the rocket descended nose first until it almost reached the ground, why not spray a thin stream of water out of the tip of the nose? This water would be turned into "steam" immediately because of the friction. Then it would envelope the whole rocket as it slid by, taking up the extra heat, and sliding it past the falling rocket......

Because for the vehicle to slow down, it has to dissipate that heat. Musk wants to do exactly what you are guessing at. But take the total kinetic energy, and see how much water would be changed to steam to take up that amount of energy, and it's about 2000 tons of water.

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