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3681  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] BitLucy.com🎰Sig & Avatar Campaign ⚽🏏🥊🏀 UP TO $112.5 weekly payment 🔥 on: May 24, 2022, 08:33:07 AM
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3682  Economy / Economics / Re: CBN to stop circulation of Naira note on: May 23, 2022, 02:51:07 PM
So let me get this straight.  Nigeria is introducing a CBDC and ditching physical currency altogether?  Are they the first country to do this?  I don't really follow crypto news or global news for that matter, so I have no idea if anyone has actually done this yet.

Some are close, but without the actual ban on banknotes.
Sweden is near this point but it wasn't really a government decision that made it happen, more like people simply not wanting to carry cash anymore, this is to the point where some small businesses simply refuse clients with cash because it's too much of a headache for them.

But again, this is Sweden, not Nigeria, and more importantly, it was a choice made through decades by their own population, not something thought overnight by a select few.

What about things like bank and debit cards?  Are those going to be replaced by this CBDC?  I'm not sure if that question sounds simpleminded or not, but I never considered how implementation of a CBDC would play out.  Now that I think about it, a country's currency would have to be either their new digital currency or their old one, physical or not.  They couldn't really exist side-to-side, could they?

Not necessarily.
It's not like they are two different currencies, there are just two faces of the same coin, there is one naira that is in paper and bank accounts and one e-naira that is some other wallets. Technically they could go like that forever, it's not really that different from having some $ on Paypal, they can be exchanged for $ in your bank account or for $  banknotes, same for the e-naira (in theory!).

I do not believe in CBN about this, they just want to cause panic to make people to use eNaira because many people will suffer this and stoping printing of money is beyond the power of CBN just like bitcoin total ban is beyond their power which is what they would have wanted.

Why do you say stopping the printing is beyond their power? They just shut down the presses and that's it no more banknotes.
And every government has just to wait till every banknote gets reclaimed from the population, it will simply gather them all one by one as you have to pay taxes, you will use those notes, you pay for gas for food, those businesses will be forced to deposit that cash every day at their bank, sooner or later there won't be any cash left or it will be too little that nobody will bother accepting it.

But!, that would work in a country where you can get 99% of the population to use a smartphone or a credit/debit card, not in Nigeria and not this decade.




3683  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What equipments can use to mine BTC with power cost is 0.15€/Kwt? on: May 23, 2022, 10:21:44 AM
What equipments can use to mine BTC with power cost is 0.15€/Kwt?

As a hobby, any of them! Profitable? Close to none!

Right now an S19 Pro gets you close to 14$ a day while burning 78kwh, which by your price is 12,5 $, so at current levels you're going to spend 9000$ on gear that will make you 1.5$ a day. An s19xp will be better meaning that you're going to ROI in about 5 years not a decade.

There is any GPU to mine Bitcoin?

No!
3684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sideways huh! on: May 23, 2022, 09:40:40 AM
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Remembered that 38-42k playground before we had dropped bad in 26k and now it seems it do repeat on the same situation where we do really stick or move sideways on 29k-31k which might really be staying

If we go like that every single move right now on the market is a copy of something that happened previously. If we start breaking it down in smaller and smaller intervals 99% of the whole bitcoin trading history will look like a sideways move.

In order to claim the market is moving sideways and this is becoming a pattern then at least have a longer period to determine his, not a small timeframe of total apathy on the markets after a 25% drop, which came after another 20% drop last month. If you look at the recent history every round had a period like this, look how it was at 40k, but rather than going sideways, it was more like a try to stabilize the price and don't fall below 40k, the same is happening now.




3685  Economy / Economics / Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis? on: May 23, 2022, 09:29:24 AM
It's not easy to run an animals or crops farm. It requires a lot of spare time, effort and care from the farmer. You need to work all day long to earn too little in return, because it's not only about planting the seeds, watering them or feeding the chickens once in a day. You need to check everyday (probably more than once) the crops to see if there are any diseases or parasites attacking it, you need to clean the chickens' spots, water and food trough, because it becomes dirty really fast, you need a very strict routine to not miss any daily task.

Some simply don't get it.
Let's take cows, for example, they don't care about anything, they don't care about summer or wintertime, they don't care about the rain outside, they won't give a damn yesterday was your birthday, they don't care it's Xmas, easter, your wedding, as soon as the sun starts to rise they will start a tantrum in the shed nobody will be able to sleep around. It's training, it's cold, you're sick, no, you have to go and bring them fresh water and straws, you can't imagine the noise if you ignore piglets or you're going to have the shock of your life seeing your chickens with half of their feathers left if you left them caged in.
I wouldn't want to go back to living on a  farm even with the current technology, we have automated gates and feeders I can control from the house, but those mean money, a ton of money.

It looks romanticized, but in fact it's a harsh life or better saying, a survival experiment.

And, the shit! The tons of tons of animal shit you have to clean, every day from the floor, from the alls, even from their feeding through, tons of it in all color and density. How would this look in real life, famine, famine after famine as we go back closer to a hunter-gather civilization!
If this shit would have worked we wouldn't have famine in the poorest countries of the world where everyone lives on agriculture, but surprise, it doesn't work like that.

People may have to abandon cities to migrate to more rural areas where self sufficiency is a more achievable goal.
 

Then why in every famine known to men people are fleeing to the cities and not the other way around? It's still the same even now
https://www.globalhungerindex.org/issues-in-focus/2018.html
As I said, there is fantasy and there is reality!


3686  Other / Meta / Re: Biased or brainless moderators? on: May 22, 2022, 06:10:43 AM
Ignoring your 'services" as well, we have to still treat that topic like any other topic because scams and other shits are not moderated

The reply you've quoted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399541.msg60192411#msg60192411
has been deleted.

So rather than arguing endlessly and trying to get back, why don't you post a screenshot of your report page?
Are your reports marked as bad or unhandled, because unhandled could mean a mod hasn't made it to that report yet?

3687  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin 51% attack and its effect on: May 22, 2022, 05:58:58 AM
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Actually, if you have 50%, you have 50% chance, but if you have 51%, the probability of mining the next block goes straight to 100%.

Nope, it doesn't, the probability for the next block is the same, you can't have 100% probability on the next block even if you own 99.9999% of the hashrate.

There is a chance that all other miners combined will extend the chain by a few blocks that are not yours, but since you have more than half of the hashpower, you're guaranteed to produce a longer chain sooner or later where those blocks are reverted / orphaned.

And the OP should have also added the tiny writing under that table:
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The numbers in the table above assume you are attempting to replace blocks by building an alternate chain that is one block longer than the current longest chain.
It's not about mining the next blocks faste than others is about mining a longer chain others don't know about.

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If you do it smartly, it will also be hard to identify you do actually control such a large portion of hashrate, thus any attempts of detecting or banning your blocks will be futile.

Taking away 51% of the hashrate and having it mine in secret a second chain is close to impossible right now, not with 20% of the hashrate in hands of public traded companies (with more to come) that will not only be the first going bankrupt but will also face lawsuits after lawsuits from this.
3688  Economy / Economics / Re: Wheat War I is going to be World War III on: May 22, 2022, 05:32:51 AM
It's pitiful but poor countries are the ones that will be affected by Russia. It was Russia and their dictator Joseph Stalin that starved millions in the Ukrainian Famine and seems they are going to repeat the same for Africa and the Middle East.

Wasn't that clear from the start? It's damn basic economics and some here still don't understand that everything has a price and everyone has purchasing power. It was obvious that if a food crisis hits the ones that spend 90% of their income on food will be hit harder than the ones spending 20% or 30%, it's clear that the guy making 2000 euros a month will afford gas even when it's an at 3 euros per liter while the one making 200$ will not!

It's completely disappointing seeing this, especially on bitcointalk, where we clearly have the bitcoin price as reference, PPP means nothing here, it doesn't matter that rent is 20$ in Dakka and 2000$ in New York, one bitcoin is still $30 000 for both of them, and food is also traded, oil is also international traded, the one with more money will afford to buy more, just like with BTC.Basics!

Thanks for the info but can you also explain where does the scarcity and the soaring prices come from in parts of EU that I heard about. For example my friends in Germany told me they haven't been able to find cooking oil, flour and some other stuff for about a month.

Tell them to try and enter a store for a change:
https://www.kaufland.de/oele/
https://www.kaufland.de/mehl/

Or stop listening to propaganda for a change! Or get a clue when your friends are poking fun at you! Cheesy
Or, since I'm a nazi lower American propagandist and obviously this is a fake nazi Ukrainian site and not the biggest store in Germany you can always ask the guys in the German sub if the shelves are empty, so you could finally stop with the fake news once for all.
Infinite possibilities that end with oil available everywhere.

Could you also tell me where does EU get their fertilizers and animal feed from?

You're not going to like the answer, but Europe exports animal feed! Just one click away!
https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/animal-food

I don't think there is going to be that much issue in most of Western Asia mainly because when the Russian exports to the West stops, they have to replace their customers with someone else.

You can't "stop" or redirect something that was never there!
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/wheat/reporter/rus?redirect=true

3689  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: May 22, 2022, 05:01:44 AM
Looks like you are having problems with comprehension. This is what I said:

Yes you said:

If they export 6 million barrels per day of crude oil or products such as diesel, then the net profit is $300 million, which amounts to around $12 billion per month.Add in the profits from gas and coal, and you will get a figure of around $20 billion per month

You said 300 million per day, 12 billion month.
Get over it, basic math is not for you, also basic economical terms are not for you either.
You said profits!!!! Then you quote:


Haven't you learned in middle school the difference between profit and revenue?

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Russian oil export revenue is up 50% since the start of 2022 with the Kremlin generating close to $20 billion per month in sales, according to the International Energy Agency.

Revenue from oil: 8 million barrels x $50 x 30 = $12 billion
Revenue from gas: $6 to $9 billion

Oh wait, you didn't! Back to school!
I wonder how a country that is run by 3*3=12 and profit is revenue people, would look like, oh wait, no need to wonder , we have it right here!
3690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kwik Trip To Install 800 New Bitcoin ATM on: May 21, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
I do not know if it will be just Texas, but I know that if you are going to pick just one state to install 800 Bitcoin ATM's, then it is going to be definitely Texas, I would pick maybe NY, California and Florida as alternatives, because those are huge as well but Texas is definitely just way too huge. Have you checked how big it is?

Bruh!!! just above Lucius has quoted the line from the article:
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Apart from Wisconsin, the aforementioned batch of Bitcoin kiosks will be installed in Minnesota, Illinois and Iowa.

They can't install ATMs in Florida or Texas or Ney York because the company has nos stores there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwik_Trip
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Area served:   Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois


3.Someone could find a way to hack those ATMs and steal the coins of many people.

It's quite hard to hack an ATM under surveillance, and no real huge cases have happened, plus it will be easy for the customer to show the receipt and the fact that the coins haven't arrived in his wallet. Plus hacking a complex system for a few hundred bucks now and then? No!

Trying to copy the fiat financial system, with all those Bitcoin ATMs and crypto debit cards is a dumb move, if you ask me.

They are not trying to copy that system, they are just copying exchanges, like all those shady currency exchanges in some countries, you want to go unnoticed by your bank while buying 1000$, you go to one of them and try to convince the cashier to do it without an ID, which is successful most of the times.
Do you think those kiosks that sell credit codes for your mobile providers are making a fortune? Yet we have like one hundred of them in each city.

3691  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: May 21, 2022, 04:02:35 PM
Be so kind as to provide the original link where the value of RUSSIAN oil in transactions with China is indicated, as you indicate? Smiley
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In a word - there is no need to repeat the methodology of Russian propaganda and manipulate the numbers. Which are also easy to check! Smiley

Told ya!
I don't know if you remember this but in the USSR time there was this joke

At the agricultural meeting of the oblast, every kolkhoz director came and issued his report to the inspector sent from Moscow:
- This year we have planted 1 000 sq km more, said the first
- This year we have planted 2 000 sq km more, the second...so on
By the time they were only two left suddenly the inspector realized that's the entire agricultural area of the oblast and asked the remaining two what they've done
- Comrade, we have converted all roads, gardens, and house roofs for agriculture and managed to plant 10 000 sq km more said one
- Comrade, since all the land in the Oblast was taken, said the last one for them, we have invaded Poland and planted there 10 000 sq km of corn for the motherland!  Grin

And look what we have here:

If they export 6 million barrels per day of crude oil or products such as diesel, then the net profit is $300 million, which amounts to around $12 billion per month.

So if you make $300 million a day in a month you make 12 billion, because as we know the months in Russia have 40 days!
And adding to this "math" the fact that he already said gas revenues are 20 billion a year, which means 1.6 billion/mth it would mean Russia is going to make more profits from coal than from the entire gas and oil industry! How? Majic!!!!!  Grin
Or maybe in Russia the year has 15 months?

Great calculations -

Here is another great one for you, 300*30 is 9 000 not 12 000.
You're going to thank me later!
3692  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto Mortgages Let Homebuyers Keep Bitcoin, Put Down Nothing on: May 21, 2022, 02:32:53 PM
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Absolutely crazy interest rates. Terrible deal, surely not that many people will want to use these types of loans with that sort of interest? The thing is for longer term loans, i.e a mortgage you're probably looking at fixing yourself in at a certain interest rate, and then after that you're probably going to be subjected to even more.

Yeah, I'm sorry absolutely terrible idea from bottom to top.

Now letting my bias for a moment, there is a target population, as it's always the case with loans and it's in most cases people who have no other options, and people who strongly believe their coins will do an x3 or x5 after the next halving and don't really do the extra math when it comes to a 5 years loan. 14%? But I can put some coins in some staking scheme and get just from that 10-20 APR, enough to cover the interest. Taking such a loan when Bitcoin was $10000, great idea, right? Taking one when it was 60k...

There are takers, and unless Celsius and others are lying, there are thousands who would take such long-term loans. Of course, you have to take those numbers with a grain of salt, but seeing that they manage to lose $54 Million in one event and still stay afloat, seems the scheme is lucrative enough.

Oh, and one more thing, to us it does seem like a lot but for other countries, it seems like a small rate, some will realize too late that the interest is in $ and that is added on top of their currency devaluation, quite a few will end trapped because they've never had a second thought on this.



3693  Economy / Economics / Re: Wheat War I is going to be World War III on: May 21, 2022, 02:20:42 PM
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It seems that I misjudged the situation when it comes to certain products, all because more or less everything is imported in my country - milk, beans, beef and pork, potatoes... Somehow it seems to me that despite the rather large agricultural areas that are poorly cultivated or not cultivated at all, without imports we would be in a rather difficult situation. When a country loses 400 000 inhabitants in 10 years and has an anti-national policy led by former communists and their children who hate the country in which they live, then it is no wonder that we are so dependent on imports.

Happened with everyone in the former Warsaw pact, and it will change in a few years for the better and better.
It was the same around here, from Prague to Budapest to Warsaw, everyone was saying no more anything is produced, then it took a  few years and look, we're exporting things everywhere, Poland is even trying to play in the big guys league when it comes to food exports, of course, France is a beast of its own but the others can be reached. Even Romania is showing signs of starting again to produce more things, both they and Bulgaria have this problem with infrastructure and store manufacturing so they export raw and get finished products but it will get there.

Speaking strictly about Croatia I must admit, I have no clue what type of land and what is being cultivated in all that former Yugoslav block, all my knowledge about agriculture has been confined north of the Danube, so it might be that you lack the land to produce wheat or maize or whatever. From my few trips there I picture it more like some olive oil whine country, more like Italy or Spain.

But bottom line, no, no fucking way Europe can't feed itself!

It seems to be exactly as you describe, but I wonder if the Russians were not aware that their moves would result in just such a development? Many parallels can be drawn between the war that began in 1991 when Serbia invaded Croatia, occupied 1/3 of the country and killed thousands of innocent civilians - while the siege of Mariupol lasted almost identically to the siege of Vukovar.

It's exactly the same, a population that was at a center of a union suddenly saw the others don't want them anymore, the Serbs ruling Yugoslavia, the Russians ruling the Soviet Union. And when their former co-nationals don't want them anymore they forget the "brotherly" love and start butchering them like savages. And now they don't understand why everyone around them hates them.
3694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador will be the richest country in the world in 8 years? on: May 20, 2022, 04:24:36 PM
From the article:

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At the current rate of growth, bitcoin will surpass gold in 4 years and the US dollar in 8 years, making El Salvador's efforts pay off, and making the country one of the richest and most prosperous in the world.


Let's ignore extrapolation no matter how funny it is, also the fact that the author speaks in 4 years increments which is not the best choice right now, cause it gives only a 3x every 4 years so, so just no, and let's focus on a different thing, called logic.
If Salvador will become the richest country in the world with 1600 bitcoin, what will the other countries be worth since well, their citizens will have the rest of the coins!!!  Grin So Salvador will need to hoard moar coins, but for that, it needs $, which they don't have!

Everything in the article looks like another bla-bla-bla and a vision of the world through pink glasses. El Salvador will be rich if they hold and Bitcoin price goes up.

The funny thing is that the price won't grow unless more people are buying, so Salvador in order to become rich needs the wealthier countries and their population to provide the cash inflow, otherwise, they will end with the same value even after 20 years. And if others do purchase, we're back to square one where they will be just as wealthy if not more. It's a game where you can't be rich alone and not without some serious help.

It doesn't make a lot of sense that article, there are single people who own more bitcoins than ES, does anyone think that there will be individuals worth more than the US or China? And what about Saylor and Microstrategy? Don't they have more than 100k BTC? Way way more than ES.

Yeah, some individuals will have more wealth than the entire world, and now imagine they will sell! Oh wait!  Grin
3695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no future as a payments network, says FTX chief on: May 20, 2022, 02:50:17 PM
Does anyone with a little common sense believe that any of these famous people in the cryptocurrency world really believe in Bitcoin? They use it as a base to build various companies through which they will sooner or later try to sell some of their ideas on how there is something better than Bitcoin.

Every single one of them is the same, they use Bitcoin as a launch base and then they start throwing shit as it since they need to sell the world their more spectacular project, another altcoin that will turn to dust. And the ones that are calling themselves true believers and so are just about the money, I remember on a similar discussion you brought up Michael Saylor's old tweets, the miraculous change in his opinion wasn't because of the technology or the fundamentals, those were the same, it was simply because he smelled the money!

That's why I totally dislike having some random guy worshipped like he's some kind of leader of the bitcoin world, sooner or later it will turn bad, really really bad!

One good news about the other scam you mentioned, seems like South Korea's authorities are on the move. The original article mentions also something about investigating the way customers were attracted with a high annual interest rate that might get jail time, and in Korea, you can get 40 years for just lying to investors about where you put their money.

3696  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: ASIC MINER Prices Drop on: May 20, 2022, 12:30:10 PM
since when does the s9i mine doge coin  using the SHA-256 al-gore-rhythm ? Cheesy Grin

Nice one (archived), now that I look more at it they also have a StrongU STU-U6 that mines SHA256 at 420G±8% at but is probably a spin-off from yours, the oh-my-groin-rhythm Cheesy
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Scrypt Algroithm Litecoin Miner Machine
3697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-backed fiat loans are a rip-off on: May 20, 2022, 11:24:36 AM
Although, this is also the first time I'm hearing of a Bitcoin backed loan, that's given in fiat. Sounds like a scam to me, doesn't really make much sense for the borrower or the lender considering the high volatility of Bitcoin, which I'd assume is written in the contract, that's if it isn't just an outright scam.

They've been around for ages (in bitcoin time) , I think Celsius was launched in 2017 for example.
It works nicely for short-time intervals with small sums when basically you're not risking much as you can overcollateralize it easily, and it might not be fiat but for example, Darkstar_  offers USDT loans.

Speaking of larger sums, like mortgages we've just had a thread about it, and I've already pointed out the flaws and risks in it and also the pro, not going to dive in this again but when you play with large sums and little reserves it sounds to too dangerous for me.

In particular, governments should introduce bills to require not just Level-3 KYC info from prospective loanees (basically documents that prove the source of your bitcoins), but it should require things like SSN and other things that credit rating checkers need.

Hmmmm, no!  Grin   
Let's not open Pandora's box once again, we should have learned the last 100 times nothing good comes out of it.
3698  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: ASIC MINER Prices Drop on: May 20, 2022, 10:38:21 AM
Smells fishy

https://archive.ph/bk2Ds
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We are a company located in Sichuan, China. We are a trading partner of a professional mining machine manufacturer. This is the production line of our manufacturer

Same image as:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/05/why-a-silicon-chip-shortage-has-left-carmakers-in-the-slow-lane
A semiconductor manufacturing plant in Japan. Photograph: Kazuhiro Nogi/AFP/Getty Images

On the about us page
https://archive.ph/BIiY9
you have 3 pictures stolen from the Bitmain reportage from Bloomberg done in Ordos, I mean I doubt there is anyone around who hasn't seen those pictures one hundred times already and yet you claim those are your employees and your production lines?

3699  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Token!! ElonToTwitter Fake Token Is Listed on Pancakeswap Beware! ⛔ on: May 20, 2022, 10:11:23 AM
What happened::
ElontoTwitter is a fictitious token/project with no whitepaper, no history, and is now trading on Pancakeswap and Poocoin.

Forget for a moment the whole Elon stuff, there is a Poocoin trading marketplace and it's legit and actively used?
I'm getting too old for this, clearly. Poo?coin! Seriously?

Anyhow, guaranteed 100% APY, 12x ROI, they could have named it Hulabalula and it would still have been a scam.

The scammers seem to be so lazy that they don't even bother to think, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone created a site called "ElonToTeslatobitcoin ".

You're going to regret thinking about it!  Grin

Musk Melon https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/musk-melon/
Dogs Of Elon   https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dogs-of-elon/
ElonBank https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/elonbank/
ELON BUYS TWITTER https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/elon-buys-twitter/ (a different one)
ELON BUYS COKE COLA https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/elon-buys-coke-cola/

And my favorite names:
Elon Sperm https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/esperm/
ELONBALLS https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/elonballs/


3700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 40 high schools in Argentina to launch bitcoin in their curriculum. on: May 20, 2022, 09:45:56 AM
Does anyone know the nature of the content being taught or is it just lessons on how to use Bitcoin?

I've done a bit of digging but come out a bit empty-handed, it's Spanish and I'm not really good at it, plus google makes a mess of translating, better without it.

Here is the website of the NGO that is involved in the courses:
https://bitcoinargentina.org/charlas-introductorias/
https://bitcoinargentina.org/que-es-blockchain/
And here is their youtube channel with a  few of the videos:
https://www.youtube.com/c/OngBitcoinArgentina/videos

Some are basic good, short pretty accurate videos, some are one hour long interviews, some have names that I could live without, trading, NFTs, and this one..."¿Puede un Bitcoin llegar a valer un millón de dólares?" I don't want to know what's in there honestly.  Grin

LE:
Seems like this is a video about the description of the project
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o1HoMHljEfMHy6osM6IPSUQlUVVn6He5/view
so if you know Spanish, take a look at it.
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