"The project has been heralded as a potential solution to bitcoin's perceived scalability issues for its attempt to enable experimentation on bitcoin's code." This was the reporter's quote. Your willingness to attribute words to mouths as and when it suits your agenda is particularly disturbing for a man sworn to the Hippocratic Oath. |
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Dawn raid RPG incoming. Sidechains ... coming up next!! exciting times! http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-open-source-code-sidechains/Open source, "nothing up my sleeve", genuine article, don't settle for fake 'solutions' (xt) with hidden agendas. We won't need tptb to continue the trainwreck from here, the SC buzz will send frappe.doc over the edge. Looking forward to a 'Monero'-like ring signature sidechain and Lightning network sidechain as first working demonstrations for the force of the distributed sidechain solution of self-similar networks operating concomitantly at multiple scales transferring value effortlessly up and down the wealth cascade. |
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Hi guise, how's the slow-mo trainwreck going in here? everyone happy? good  Notice how it went off the rails when you started crappin all over the devs? Try to keep it in your trousers, remember who's piloting this plane, who's the passengers and stop trying to grab the stick, KK? Ta, tally ho. What are you, some kind of mafia enforcer? Are you're saying that if anyone dares to question the #bitcoin-wizards they'll send their sockpuppets around to vandalize conversations as retaliation? Wanton character assassination, smearing, slander (libel) and sundry rat-bastard tactics are not "daring to question". Let's keep the debates honourable, civil and based on their merits and things will go along just fine. Merely an observation. How's your closed source projects with Goldman Sachs alumni coming along btw Justus? |
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Hi guise, how's the slow-mo trainwreck going in here? everyone happy? good Notice how it went off the rails when you started crappin all over the devs? Try to keep it in your trousers, remember who's piloting this plane, who's the passengers and stop trying to grab the stick, KK? Ta, tally ho. |
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everybody should be very wary about the bitcoin XT code on github. Even if you think you know bitcoin code well. https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxtIt is NOT a verifiable git fork of bitcoin Core code, even though it goes to lengths on front page to emphasise that it is 'based' on Core (mentions Core 4 times). XT authors have chosen to have their own git root for whatever reasons but it means there cannot be a verifiable git rebase and commit diff between Core and XT. The differences in crypto can be very subtle but very important, especially if 'bug fixes' have been rolled back. Be careful what you wish for, dyodd. |
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so who has more credibility in this matter? the pools themselves, who have the hard data? or the armchair apparatchiks being the likes of Greg Maxwell, LukeJr, pwiullie, Corallo, and Peter Todd? the answer is simple: the armchair experts are wrong. These guys are actually writing the code you are running, are you making code commits ... I mean who's really the "armchair expert" here? Just stop being a dick. You are looking worse and worse every time you open your ignorant mouth to trash the developers. |
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He should probably begin to consider his options. He's actually been at the wheel quite a bit longer than Satoshi was, he's not actually lead coder on Core (who is Wladimir and has been for quite some time now) and he's lost the respect of the overwhelming majority of the core devs on the block size issue.
Back away from the blind alley of blockchain forking brinksmanship, quietly step aside and hand the reins over would be an honourable move if this was any other open source project. Job well done Gavin, thanks.
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I think open source (including the possibly of forking if the current developers go off the rails, voluntarily or otherwise) is the best chance we've got. If you know of something better, please tell. Open source with a verifiable chain of hashed code changes is better ... so that you can see who has tried to slip in the backdoors as "trivial bug fixes" |
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Bitstamp didn't implode as I thought but looks to be bleeding out slowly instead, if volume is any indicator. So I got the method of their demise a bit wrong but it still looks like they are finished ... still think they are crooks.
A bit wrong ? You said they were crooks and were going to run off with the money. Difference between that and a slow bleed is enormous ( FWIW I actually agree they wil probably suffer a slow painful demise) And you threw that huge 'error' out at a critical point for BTC ... I never said they were going to run off with the coins. If anything, I think Stamp are hugely net short of coins due to the crazy leveraged shorting they allow ... and I was saying that before the hack. Worse is who they are allowing to short. The hack may have been their wake up call that saves them, who knows, sometimes the places need to be taught a lesson to see the error of their ways. I encourage idiots to run XT because it will weed them out. frap.doc keeps saying most people will be left without coins ... |
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bad smell all over xt ... note it is not even a faithful branch fork of the main bitcoin repo look https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt at the main link, if it was fork it would have a link beneath it to the git repo it was forked from. So what? you might ask, software forking is subtle ... what this means is there is no way to easily know what has and hasn't been left out out of XT that was in Core ... why do that? On the front page you can tell things have been changed that have nothing to do with "only 3 major difference" there is a file called "pkg.m4" https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/blob/0.10.2A/pkg.m4 that was removed from Core because of erroneous behaviour that made every system it was built on to default to using it instead of the system pkg.m4 ... why put broken behaviour back in? Maybe some bad coding reasons but way too much fishy shit right on the front page of XT to trust in the slightest. Removed files put back in, and not a correct, verifiable fork of Core, it looks dodgy as all heck. If it was just some anonymous guy on the internet I would expect coins to go missing immediately if you ran this code. To me this seems like more fear-mongering from you m_o_a Just like when you told us that BitStamp would never come back after the hack as they were all crooks (I am not going to waste my time digging out your post, but you know what you said) I don't know the truth of the matter, but I don't trust your judgement either. I have seen it to be negatively biased on more than one occasion, enough to make me think that you have your own (unspoken) agenda here "just trust us" (your ninja edit) ... I don't trust you i smell Monero all over him. No monero and even if I did how does it change the facts that you refuse to accept? character assassin, smear tactics ... is about all you have left when you are of limited intellect i'm guessing? Such a drag explaining every last detail like you are 5, are you 5? |
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bad smell all over xt ... note it is not even a faithful branch fork of the main bitcoin repo look https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt at the main link, if it was fork it would have a link beneath it to the git repo it was forked from. So what? you might ask, software forking with git trackinng is subtle ... what this means is there is no way to easily know what has and hasn't been left out of XT that was in Core ... why do that? Git is a system of hashing every commit so you can easily verify every commit back to the original source dump and know it hasn't been messed with, exactly like a block hash chain ... XT has branched in such a way you will never really easily know how it is different from Core, except for, yes you guessed it, "just trust us". On the front page you can tell things have been changed that have nothing to do with "only 3 major differences" there is a file called "pkg.m4" https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/blob/0.10.2A/pkg.m4 that was removed from Core because of erroneous behaviour that made every system it was built on to default to using it instead of the system pkg.m4 ... why put broken behaviour back in? Maybe some bad coding reasons but way too much fishy shit right on the front page of XT to trust in the slightest. Removed files put back in, and not a correct, verifiable fork of Core, it looks dodgy as all heck. If it was just some anonymous guy on the internet I would expect coins to go missing immediately if you ran this code. The other reason is to simply get on the path of being a fully independent implementation that breaks ties with the Satoshi client. Except everything on the XT readme goes to lengths to explain that is simply "based on Core". In fact it is not "rebased", in the git sense, on Core at all but is a complete new code base. The way it has been forked it will never be a true branch of Core and never able to be rebased upon it. That is all you need to know as a developer to know where they are coming from. |
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bad smell all over xt ... note it is not even a faithful branch fork of the main bitcoin repo look https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt at the main link, if it was fork it would have a link beneath it to the git repo it was forked from. So what? you might ask, software forking is subtle ... what this means is there is no way to easily know what has and hasn't been left out out of XT that was in Core ... why do that? On the front page you can tell things have been changed that have nothing to do with "only 3 major difference" there is a file called "pkg.m4" https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/blob/0.10.2A/pkg.m4 that was removed from Core because of erroneous behaviour that made every system it was built on to default to using it instead of the system pkg.m4 ... why put broken behaviour back in? Maybe some bad coding reasons but way too much fishy shit right on the front page of XT to trust in the slightest. Removed files put back in, and not a correct, verifiable fork of Core, it looks dodgy as all heck. If it was just some anonymous guy on the internet I would expect coins to go missing immediately if you ran this code. To me this seems like more fear-mongering from you m_o_a Just like when you told us that BitStamp would never come back after the hack as they were all crooks (I am not going to waste my time digging out your post, but you know what you said) I don't know the truth of the matter, but I don't trust your judgement either. I have seen it to be negatively biased on more than one occasion, enough to make me think that you have your own (unspoken) agenda here "just trust us" (your ninja edit) ... I don't trust you But you haven't refuted anything I pointed out. Don't trust me, trust your own lying eyes. But keep attacking the source not the facts, that is what this thread is all about after all right? Bitstamp didn't implode as I thought but looks to be bleeding out slowly instead, if volume is any indicator. So I got the method of their demise a bit wrong but it still looks like they are finished ... still think they are crooks. No agenda, no monero. |
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bad smell all over xt ... note it is not even a faithful branch fork of the main bitcoin repo look https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt at the main link, if it was fork it would have a link beneath it to the git repo it was forked from. So what? you might ask, software forking with git trackinng is subtle ... what this means is there is no way to easily know what has and hasn't been left out of XT that was in Core ... why do that? Git is a system of hashing every commit so you can easily verify every commit back to the original source dump and know it hasn't been messed with, exactly like a block hash chain ... XT has branched in such a way you will never really easily know how it is different from Core, except for, yes you guessed it, "just trust us". On the front page you can tell things have been changed that have nothing to do with "only 3 major differences" there is a file called "pkg.m4" https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/blob/0.10.2A/pkg.m4 that was removed from Core because of erroneous behaviour that made every system it was built on to default to using it instead of the system pkg.m4 ... why put broken behaviour back in? Maybe some bad coding reasons but way too much fishy shit right on the front page of XT to trust in the slightest. Removed files put back in, and not a correct, verifiable fork of Core, it looks dodgy as all heck. If it was just some anonymous guy on the internet I would expect coins to go missing immediately if you ran this code. |
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frap.doc's man crush on gavin the g-man turned into a cheerleading rally session to get the plebes onto the new bitcoin spook-fork.
both frap.doc and karpeles want to frap it up on the blockchain.
Now that's just cruel. LOL!  seems character assassination and smearing is what frap.doc wants this thread to be about, I can oblige in any good mud-slinging, pig-wrestling descent into farce. |
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How did this go from a gold collapsing bitcoin up thread to a poll about Gavin?
frap.doc's man crush on gavin the g-man turned into a cheerleading rally session to get the plebes onto the new bitcoin spook-fork.  both frap.doc and karpeles want to frap it up on the blockchain. |
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Gavin's strength is his maturity and calm demeanor, imo. he'll win if it comes down to a battle.
Nope. Szatoshi will back Back and Maxwell. The cypherpunks will stick together (or hang separately). You should change your handle to 'FrappuccinoDoc.'  Bitcoin XT is a poison pill for all the newbs and unwary, certain bug fix commits that went into Core have already been omitted. Both Hearn and Andresen have been covertly anti-privacy from day zero, paying it only lip service when pressed. Don't trust it or them. Not to mention it is poorly maintained and totally untested. I can't believe I'm reading such a mad approach being championed on these pages ... it's like a twilight zone episode wtf are you people thinking !!! following Pied Pipers now? |
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Down ,down ,down ,down dooooown
Thanks for the "vote". Let's see who wins :-)
The technical picture gets clearer every dayS3052, I would like to hear your opinion about the picture these days, what do you think ? Really? Which way? or are you clueless on that point? haha ... I've been following this thread for over 4 years without getting a subscription why do you think asking for money from me now would work? I can give you a clear direction from my mind for free if you are interested? |
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You see this everywhere... We had a instance like this where the main negotiator for a union signed off on a crazy low increase and benefit agreement with the employer, and two months after that, he got a executive post in the company he fought against in the negotiations. The employees were fooled to believe, that the agreement was done in their best interest... but the negotiator from the union got the biggest prize. The company saved millions by offering him a executive post and paying much less in salaries and benefits. Money corrupts, we deal with it every day.  It's stories like these, you hear them everywhere now, that make you wonder how long until assassination markets spring up ...  Natural justice has a way of taking over when the department of justice is broken and corrupted. |
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So happy I do not go on sites like it and even if I did wouldn't use real info on them due to stuff like this always happening all the time not just with their site but happens a lot of the time and governments and security wounder why identity theft and fraud is always on the rise.
kind of like bitcointalk.org ... when are those details going to be for sale I wonder? |
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