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3781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Rally! Keep hold your coins! watch that chart 1200$ soon. on: December 26, 2016, 12:18:31 AM
At first impression it can look unreal for now, as the price reached to $900 maximum. We didn't reach to $1000 yet, so $1200 can be very hard to achieve for now.

But if we think a bit more, it can be very possible, the prices are going up like a rocket, the events around the world are positive for Bitcoin progress. chineses are pumping BTC now, the relation between chineses and the profitable digital currency must arouse Trump and USA interest, and consequently interest of all the rest of world. 2017 can be very profitable for Bitcoin enthusiasts.

We actually reached $1200 once, in 2013. It was the highest value Bitcoin ever had, but it went down to $1000 very fast. It looks like we're living the same days, and this is all because of halving.. The true effects will be seen starting from the next summer though, trust me! I'm pretty sure the 2012-2013 story will be repeated right now.

Oh, really? Didn't know about it. If this already happened, the chances to happen again is high. I believe everything will depend the wishes of big whales. If it's interesting for them for any reason to pump the price to $1200-$1300, it will be pumped, even for a fast while.

But, if this really happen I don't think the price will be stable like we are seeing now, if the price increases a lot to this $1200-$1300 goal, it's better to sell BTCs and buy again when it drops to $700-$800.
3782  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: December 26, 2016, 12:10:01 AM
At the current state, the bitcoin mining contracts would pay off in around 6-7 months, depending on the amount

Do you guys think it's a good idea to invest?

I was calculating the profits with the new Antminer S9 - electricity costs, and I would break even in around 6 monhts

However, here I can invest a lot less aka. for example 200$

I don't need to buy a whole antminer for 1250$



For me makes no sense. If you hold your $200 in BTCs you will have more profit after 6-7 months than investing on cloud mining.

The contract just worth if you can mine more BTCs than you invested, and it looks impossible for this kind of investment...

How come?

How will I have less profit if I will have more bitcoins in 7 months
It implies bitcoin price going down and me selling, which is unlikely  Cheesy

I mostly hodl Cheesy

If you invest 1 BTC in cloud mining, do you guarantee you will mine more than 1 BTC after 7 months?

I don't think so, if it was possible, I would be investing on it too.
3783  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: December 25, 2016, 10:59:21 PM
Advice, tips, speculation please.
I think that the best way for you to invest your btc is trading , i have found that it is the least risky profitable way to earn money fast and easy specially if you use the the 1 min trading that way you could always make profit , i personally went from having 0.1 btc to 1 btc in a day of trading

1 minute "trading" is common in Binary Options. But I don't think a smart idea to invest all the money in Binary Options or trading. If the money owner doesn't have knowledge about it, the best to do is to find a legit and trusted passive income site. The income is low, but at least there is a certain to don't lose your money on long term. If you turned 0.1 BTC into 1 BTC in one day, congratulations, you can become rich fast and appear on a magazine.
3784  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: December 25, 2016, 10:26:52 PM
At the current state, the bitcoin mining contracts would pay off in around 6-7 months, depending on the amount

Do you guys think it's a good idea to invest?

I was calculating the profits with the new Antminer S9 - electricity costs, and I would break even in around 6 monhts

However, here I can invest a lot less aka. for example 200$

I don't need to buy a whole antminer for 1250$



For me makes no sense. If you hold your $200 in BTCs you will have more profit after 6-7 months than investing on cloud mining.

The contract just worth if you can mine more BTCs than you invested, and it looks impossible for this kind of investment...
3785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any gamble going on if bitcoin will reach 1000 before january 1 2017? on: December 25, 2016, 09:48:03 PM
It's a very risk bet, who will decide if the BTC price hit $1000 or not until January 1 2017 are the big whales. They will choose one of the alternatives and work to make their bet become real to make a big profit. If you bet at their side, you will win with them. The problem is to know which side are the big whales.

I prefer to stay neutral about this. It can happen or not.
3786  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: December 25, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
Does someone has any suggestions how to make 17 BTC with 7 BTC starting capital in short period of time?
There is no sure way to earn that amount of money in a very short period without risks the only way that i could think of that can double your money by nearly 100% are gambling which is very very risky , and trading which is the best option especilay if you use the 1 min trading in some sites , i earned a lot from those.
The only way to make 17 out of 7 in a short time is to engage in some illegal activity like black market trading or smuggling. Think about it, we're not even talking about doubling the investment. Sites that say you'll get ROI in a month are shown as examples of pyramid schemes and he's asking for a way to get over 2 times more. It's good to dream though.

Those are very shade methods to make money... I think there isn't a fast and legit way to turn 7 BTCs into 17 BTCs. Anyway, 7 BTCs is a lot of money, if the guy just hold it for some time, the money will increase its value. Or he can lend it to casinos and earn passive income and increase his money in BTCs, the time will make the rest and increase its value. He can withdraw the money from casino any moment.
3787  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: RE-OPENED! MyBitMine.co | New Type Of Faucet | Get Bitcoin From Playing on: December 25, 2016, 08:52:28 PM
I created an account on http : // mybitmine . co / and checked their feedback page that lead directly to this thread with no other means of contact.
Is this the right place to mention issues with the site? In particular I cannot gain any gold from the mine. Same username as the forum.

As Doamader said, this game is dead.

If you still have interest on this kind of game, try http://dwarvenbitmine.com/

The style is the same but with dwarves. Game started recently and has some active players. Look their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667686.0
3788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Rally! Keep hold your coins! watch that chart 1200$ soon. on: December 25, 2016, 05:40:59 PM
At first impression it can look unreal for now, as the price reached to $900 maximum. We didn't reach to $1000 yet, so $1200 can be very hard to achieve for now.

But if we think a bit more, it can be very possible, the prices are going up like a rocket, the events around the world are positive for Bitcoin progress. chineses are pumping BTC now, the relation between chineses and the profitable digital currency must arouse Trump and USA interest, and consequently interest of all the rest of world. 2017 can be very profitable for Bitcoin enthusiasts.
3789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling trading or giveaway? on: December 25, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
if I prefer to trade
and how about you?
Gambling = Just for entertainment and dont expect too much that you will able to create money over time/Easy Win-Easy Loss
Trading = A Hard thing to learn but its worth it if you do already get the idea on how and which coin should be trade/Profitable in long term specially when you are good enough.
Giveaway= Not permanent and wont rely too much on it since those amounts that are given arent too big enough.

For me, none of those options are useful to make real profit. Gambling, impossible to win on long term; Trading, too hard, terrible to trade alt-coins; Giveaway it's just a giveaway, it won't give you real profit, only if you have an army of accounts abusing the promotions on this forum, something that is forbidden and waste of time.

But, if I must choose one of the three, I choose giveaway, at least I'm not losing money with that, this way I can earn few pennies.  Smiley
3790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Inevitability of Million Dollar Bitcoin on: December 25, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
$1m for one BTC means one Satoshi to be equal to $0.01. It would be insane, but we still need time for that amount. I will keep one Bitcoin saved and will probably spend the rest of it. Sounds impossible, but it's probably as impossible at it seemed in 2009 for one BTC to ever reach $1200! And it happened, so I don't think it's really that hard to happen unless something bad happens to Bitcoin.

You should keep more than one as perpetual, never-selling cold storage long term holdings. Usually the magic number is 21 bitcoins because only 21 million bitcoins will exist which means 1 million people can ever hold 21 bitcoin, in practice less since a lot of bitcoins have been lost/will get lost.

Eventually 1 btc will make you rich but you dont want to wait that long, 21 is guaranteed richies in 10 years.

I think the currency was projected to have this effect on long term (few satoshis = few currently cents). That can be very balanced when we reach to 21 millions Bitcoins in the world. This amount is enough to have the biggest part of world's population using the Crypto-Currency as one of the world's main currencies. And it's very possible, until now everything is going well, the experience with BTCs is being awesome for all, if it continues this way, Bitcoin will reach its goal.
3791  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockchain Investment Ltd. BEWARE of ponzi scam on: December 25, 2016, 04:27:17 PM
Total scam. Sometimes I receive emails like that directly to my junk email folder with many unreal offers. It's not blockchain email, just someone trying to use their brand to steal you.

There are some similar attempts on google, when people search for Blockchain.info wallet. Too many scammers trying to make people believe they are Blockchain.info team.
3792  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AsicBIT.com -- total WASTE of time on: December 25, 2016, 02:53:46 PM
What, you re surprised there is no free money? Damn, that s really strange.  Grin Grin

Sorry to be sarcastic bud, it is like that in life. You have to really work to make some money. If money would fall down from the sky, we d all be millionaires by now.

This. And the idea of the site being a "thematic faucet" that you upgrade to earn from... just think about that for a second and it'll click why that's clearly a lie.

Well, it really works like a faucet. There isn't deposit option, their income come from adsense. The earnings are low, the referral comission is 1%. I don't know if it's scam, I will try and give my review.

And there are thematic faucets (upgradeable) paying their users without problems, it's not much, but they are paying. There are honest people in micro earnings industry.
3793  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Scoins Faucet and mycoins faucet - 150 satoshis every 15 min (only for 2 hours) on: December 25, 2016, 02:48:52 PM
All the three faucets are good. The two paying to Epay have pop-ups, but it's ok for me. I see you will change the countdown time after 2 hours, let's see how often we could claim on it.

The one paying to FaucetHub doesn't have pop-ups, it goes faster, 50 satoshis every 2 minutes. Possible to make 1500 satoshis every hour.
3794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★[CLOAKCOIN SIGNATURE & AVATAR CAMPAIGN]★★★ on: December 25, 2016, 04:55:31 AM



11th payment done!


Thanks to all CLOAK supporters who entered this campaign!

We wish you all merry Christmas!

peace & love


Thank you so much, received my payment! Wish you Merry Christmas too, all the best!

Payment received as always.
Merry Christmas to you Op and to the whole CLOAK team! Grin
btw i think that we have one more payment before the end...or not?

I would like to know too... Now I'm in doubt, because the payments are made every two weeks, and now we have only one week until the end of month. Maybe we will receive half payment? (Example: Sr. Member receives 2 CLOAKs (half of two weeks payment).
3795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 25, 2016, 04:49:31 AM
No how. Gambling can't give any steady income to anybody. But it can give steady outcome for addicted people. The one way for make some money that I can suggest about gambling is investing in a casino. I heard that this can bring good profit.
possible investments in gambling sites really can be an advantage very much, because the gambler is always there, especially if you are investing on the popular gambling sites.
gambling can not provide steady income to anyone, because the profits on gambling just by luck. the only way to change gambling into a profitable activity is a way to win, but it will be very difficult.
What do you mean by Investing in Gambling Sites? Do you invest literally on gambling sites like you earn a percentage on their profits? If that is what you mean I am interested in joining one, do you know any gambling sites that accept investors? Or what you mean by investing is putting all your money in bets? If that is what you mean then it is not investing you are doing but it is gambling.

I think he wants to say invest in casino bankroll.

If you are interested on it, go on. But start investing a little amount of satoshis, the minimum if you want (usually 0.01 BTC minimum), watch how it works and how profitable it is. Next, if you like the investment, try with a bigger amount of BTCs.

I advice you to try Crypto-Games.net. There are anothers I'm looking to invest too, but I'm not sure yet.
3796  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 25, 2016, 03:39:17 AM
i think bitcoin do not need any bank because bitcoin has  now very much stable technology and i think people also like the bitcoin online technology and i think bitcoin transaction fees is very much lower than bank.

Exactly, for me bitcoin wallets is a bank itself , the apps developed for this currency have lots of activities that can help us to monitor, controlled and earn it more. The security of it is more satisfying than bank.
I don't agree with this, you might feel the other way if you will ever experience your account being compromise, in banks if that happens to you, you can recover your account and your money because you can prove that you are that person while in bitcoin we are anonymous here, and once our account will be hack, our money will be gone forever.

Yes, the security isn't that wonderful thing... It's still risk to lose our money when using BTCs. With the money in the bank, there are more safe guarantees, but unprofitable to let our money in fiat...

I agree with you, the anonymity here doesn't allow us to recover our money if it's stolen, but this same anonymity doesn't protect us to be tracked by someone. If someone start tracking your BTC address and IP probably this one will find you, find your ID.
3797  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merry Christmas, Bitcoiners! on: December 25, 2016, 02:31:36 AM
May the blessings of Christmas fill your heart with peace!



I wish all the same. That you have peace and happiness together with those you most love on this special day! Good celebrations for all!

Would be vulgarity to don't wish a Merry Christmas to all on this forum as I pass a good time here.  Smiley

3798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 25, 2016, 01:37:24 AM
I always seem to find myself betting even more and I don't stay calm I want to win back what I lost quickly so I can stop but that doesn't happen I either get it back and then don't stop but rather get greedy and try to win more and then end up losing. Or I will simply just lose the bets I make trying to win it back. Then I want to deposit again to win it all back or I sell my altcoins or empty out another bitcoin wallet. I do not do this anymore because searching all over with money to collect to gamble is desperate and not a nice feeling.

Surely this isn't a nice feeling, the best thing is to stop this. You can't win on long term, and if you continue depositing more and more BTCs, you will probably just lose it as you lost the other deposits you made before. If you can't control yourself, don't play anymore, don't visit casino sites, try to stay away from this. If you want to play, use a little amount of money and if you lose it, quit the game for a day or more.
3799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin is the best future currency? on: December 25, 2016, 12:55:30 AM
i don't think bitcoin is the best future currency,i think in the future bitcoin will disappear

I will not agree with your opinion especially when there not are any proofs about that. We don't know the future of bitcoin but is the leader of cryptocurrencies. As anything new has not only pros but cons too. For this reason I believe in the future will have more than one cryptourrencies and people will have to use among them according their needs. Also I believe that after the restriction of banknotes worldwide, future of currencies will be cashless but banks will not stay away waiting to die. So bitcoin will be a currency in the future but I do not know if will be the best.
Yeah, there is a big chance for bitcoin to replace paper money. So many people in some country were change their fiat into bitcoin to save their wealth. The reason of those people is fall of their fiat price against dollar. Its proof that paper money is being not apropriated for this world any more. Crypto currency brings so many good advantage for the customer in this time, although gold is big competitor for bitcoin to be future currency.

Yes, most places in the world now have access to the internet, what makes people able to start using Bitcoins, creating the possibility to replace the paper money in the future. The irony here is that those people who needs more to use Bitcoins, can't use it, because they don't access the internet, the most poor people.

Unfortunelly, most people in the world, even having access to the internet, don't have interest about Bitcoins, because their life is comfortable for them and they are too alienated to have interest for it. BTC and another Crypto Currencies will have more success when the currently areas without internet start having it.
3800  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AsicBIT.com -- total WASTE of time on: December 25, 2016, 12:38:38 AM
It's like a thematic faucet which you can upgrade to earn more, no?

I didn't know about this site, never saw any report about it. Even you are saying it's a waste of time I will take a look on it. They are using Adsense, they can have a good income of money to pay users.

But I must admit, if they didn't create a thread on this forum to promote their site, it can because they don't have genuine intentions with that.
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