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381  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The transaction fee is just ridiculous. on: November 21, 2014, 07:04:55 PM
My preferred behaviour for a wallet, would be that it asks me every single time what fee I want to pay. Thus if I'm just doing a "wallet maintenance" shuffle and don't care how long it takes, no tx fee, then if I want "same day" service pay regular fee, if I think my TX is super important and want preferential treatment I should find it easy to add fees as I see fit.


One thing that would be good though, is if wallet could report the average fees and number of TX for the last block. Then if you saw fees were high and TX were high, you'd know that network was "busy" and you'd have the option of matching high fees to get priority or being content with waiting it out.

I expect you'll be interested to read:

Quote from: Gavin Andresen
The wallet code in the next major release of Bitcoin Core (version 0.10) will be much smarter about transaction fees.

Instead of using hard-coded rules for what fees to pay, the code observes how long transactions are taking to confirm and then uses that data to estimate the right fee to pay so the transaction confirms quickly– or decides that the transaction has a high enough priority to be sent for free but still confirm quickly.

There is a new option that lets you control how quickly you’d like your transactions to confirm: txconfirmtarget. The default value is 1, meaning “I’d like my transactions to be sent with enough fee or priority so they are very likely to be included in the next block.” Set it to 6 and it will take on average six blocks for your transactions to get their first confirmation.
Read more here.
382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lets celebrate the birth of the currency of freedom! on: November 21, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
Man, I cant believe it's going to be 5 years already.

It's going to be 6 years.

So what are we waiting to celebrate ?

Bitcoin's birth.  Specifically the upcoming anniversary of block #0, "the genesis block" (timestamp: 2009-01-03 18:15:05).

Bitcoin will be 6 years old on the 3rd of January, 2015.
383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The transaction fee is just ridiculous. on: November 21, 2014, 01:18:23 PM
Out of curiosity.
Even when setting the tx fee to 0 in settings (bitcoin core client), when sending a payment I get a similar popup.

Yes - Send transaction and pay fee
Cancel - Cancel transaction

How is it then "optional" to pay the fee? There doesn't seem to be a way around it.

Did you try the Command-Line options -mintxfee=<amt> and -minrelaytxfee=<amt>?
384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lets celebrate the birth of the currency of freedom! on: November 20, 2014, 09:05:00 PM
Man, I cant believe it's going to be 5 years already.

It's going to be 6 years.
385  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 20, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
It's the only way to give something to the community in which you live in. So why shouldn't you?

What about charity?
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Btc Price Was Higher Last Year Than Today on: November 20, 2014, 12:27:11 AM
And I have a feeling it will be like this at least for the next couple of months.

Bitcoin was under for about 3.5 months last time.  I suspect we won't be down for that long this time but a couple of months is very much on the cards.

Although, I've been involved in BTC for several years now, so I'm over the price thing. If you look at the bigger picture and realize what BTC can bring to the table, price is hardly part of the equation.

Unless of course you're in it only for the speculative aspect, purely for the profit like majority of the people are.

Bitcoin is a potential boon to mankind and the increasing market value of a bitcoin is an essential indicator of that potential being realised.
387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin deletion project. 21 million to 20 million. on: November 20, 2014, 12:12:09 AM
The main idea is to crowdfund business and rather than give money to charity, they give it to bitcoin deletion to help the small owners of bitcoin, the poor.  The Walmart foundation gave $1.3 billion to charity in 2013.   $1.3 billion at current prices could destroy 3 million coins.  I presently own 10 bitcoin.  Thus I am considered poor and not expected to delete bitcoin.  Bitcoin deletion would be consider how philanthropy is today, yet instead of benefiting a few insiders of many of these fake charities, it benefits everyone equally.  Consider bitcoin deletion gods work.  Fight hunger delete bitcoin.

If Walmart wanted to help the poor* they could do so more directly by using the $1.3 billion to lower their prices.  The deletion of $1.3 billion worth of bitcoin doesn't benefit everyone equally as you claim, it benefits people in proportion to their bitcoin holdings.

*Of course, there are many poor around the world that have access to neither Bitcoin nor Walmart.  Reaching such people is more difficult and possibly the task of one or more of the charities that the Walmart Foundation targets.
388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Btc Price Was Higher Last Year Than Today on: November 19, 2014, 11:49:17 PM
Cool.  Good catch!

Bitcoin's not been down against USD year-over-year since about August 23rd, 2012.
389  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What according to you definition of 'freedom'? on: November 19, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Please, stop and think for a moment as this question is raised to brainstorm 'your' definition of "financial freedom" rather than accepting something actively propagated by organization and people with vested interest.

Freedom has nothing to do with law/crime.

LOL! Law is circumference  and what happends beyond that is crime and freedom forms core of that circle and you say it has nothing to do. Confused!

Wait.  Isn't government a group of people?  Isn't defining freedom as the centre of a circle of law simply "accepting something actively propogated by organization and people with vested interest."?
390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than a year and still no consensus on uBTC unit? Consensus is overrated? on: November 19, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
We all know the general consensus is "bit".  I've been using the term for months, and it's plastered all over Reddit.  I know some people here disagree with the name, but you can't deny that it's by far the most popular and used term by many factors.

"bit" is relatively popular as a name for 100 satoshis.  "by far the most popular" is defensible but a bit of a stretch; support for "microbitcoin" or some abbreviation thereof is certainly not insignificant, particularly as "μBTC" stands for "microbitcoin" just as "km" stands for "kilometer" and "GB" stands for "gigabyte".

There is most certainly not a "general consensus".  The term "consensus" strongly suggests the approval of all or almost all people involved.  Even a cursory glance at the responses in this thread will reveal that, far from being almost universally accepted, the term is still highly antagonistic.

Perhaps the only terms which enjoy a "general consensus" are "bitcoin" and "satoshi".  The fact that the syllable "bit" partly undermines "bitcoin" is, in my opinion, the root of the controversy, and the reason we will not achieve consensus for a very long time.
391  Economy / Economics / Re: The Blockchain is indentical to a Fiat Ledgered System, on: November 19, 2014, 12:12:02 AM
its basically an automated process where every time a person uses fiat they note the serial number on a website...

There is no analogue to a bank note's serial number in Bitcoin.  In your "fiat ledgered system" it would be theoretically possible to check the entire history of any particular bank note (which addresses it's visited).  The same simply cannot be done in general for Bitcoin's UTXOs (unspent transaction outputs).  Indeed, asking of a UTXO which addresses the corresponding bitcoins have visited doesn't even truly make sense.
392  Economy / Economics / Re: Keynes and the IMF both support Bitcoin on: November 17, 2014, 01:02:03 AM
From the International Clearing Union, May 1943.

Quote from: Lord Keynes
It is not necessary in order to attain these ends that we should dispossess gold from its traditional use. It is enough to supplement and regulate the total supply of gold and of the new money taken together. The new money must not be freely convertible into gold, for that would require that gold reserves should be held against it, and we should be back where we were, but there is no reason why the new money should not be purchasable for gold. By such means we can avoid the many obvious difficulties and disadvantages of proposing that the old money, gold, should be demonetized. The plan proposes therefore what is conveniently described as a one-way convertibility. What shall we call the new money? Bancor? ...

Quote from: Lord Keynes
But at this point I draw your Lordships' attention to a striking feature of the proposals. Under the former gold standard, gold absorbed by a creditor country was wholly withdrawn from circulation. The present proposals avoid this by profiting from the experience of domestic banking. If an individual hoards his income, not in the shape of gold coins in his pockets or in his safe, but by keeping a bank deposit, this bank deposit is not withdrawn from circulation but provides his banker with the means of making loans to those who need them. Thus every act of hoarding, if it takes this form, itself provides the offsetting facilities for some other party, so that production and trade can continue. This technique will not prevent excessive hoarding from doing harm in the long run, since this may cause other countries to suffer the anxiety of a growing debit account which would eventually reach its permitted maximum. But a country which tends to hoard bancor beyond all reason will at any rate be exhibited before itself and before the whole world as the make-mischief of the piece; and will be under every motive of reason and of benevolence and of self-interest to take corrective measures. Nor, I fancy, will the hoarding of bancor prove as attractive or as plausible as the burying of gold seems to have been, if recent experience is a guide.

I rather suspect that Keynes would have seen the same weaknesses in Bitcoin that he saw in gold (hoarding, lack of international oversight), weaknesses which he addressed here with the proposal of Bancor.
393  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 15, 2014, 08:20:24 PM
so let them freeload.
if enough people agreed to pay and as a side effect people who didn't pay for it enjoy it too where is the problem.

Why should they (you) be entitled to use the services others have paid for?
And some don't pay, the rest have to pay more to make up for it.

This is, precisely, an argument against taxation.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Merged mining and the price developement on: November 14, 2014, 11:53:29 PM
Braaains!
395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The transaction fee is just ridiculous. on: November 11, 2014, 02:01:31 AM
Some guy sent about 1,000 BTC and he included a 0.005 tx fee.

This is that transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/72bec59c7649d4527d8d7848ebc36840c89f5d36d18db9a91afd34d800826722

This is what it means:
Output $ 376,352.59
Fees $ 1.79

That kind of transaction fee for that kind of money sent is indeed ridiculous! He just sent over $376,352 over the internet to what may eventually end up being over a thousand different people, without opening an account anywhere or asking anybody’s permission. That transaction was completed and confirmed in about six minutes, and it cost about fifty cents in transaction fees at that time.

Ridiculous!
I find it very interesting that all of the addresses this person sent BTC to started with '1Ag'; I somewhat suspect that this person has hashed several addresses and sent this bitcoin to himself.

You suspect well.  This was one of Casascius' coin-loading transactions.  This particular transaction corresponds to a stock of silver rounds (note that the chemical symbol for silver is Ag).
396  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
^Of course governments are corrupt.  The reason governments are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work Undecided

A person living in 18th Century France could use the same logic: The reason monarchies are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work.
397  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 11:40:11 AM
To say that corporations bribe the government is really crazy. The government has sufficient regulatory power as a whole to not need to be bribed as they can simply tax and regulate any corporation to give it money that it needs

You blind yourself by considering the government only as a whole.  When considered as a large group of individuals with special relationships, the possibility of corruption becomes clear.
398  Economy / Economics / Re: 51 countries signed an agreement to “end tax evasion and money laundering.” on: November 09, 2014, 12:42:30 AM
Whats the current state on Dogecoin laundering?

Ready to go!  Unfortunately, the machine only takes fiat money and none of us have any. Embarrassed

399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The transaction fee is just ridiculous. on: November 08, 2014, 06:13:11 PM
The transaction fee logic implemented by Armory matches that of the Bitcoin Core client itself.  If you were to include a fee lower than the fee there, the transaction will be DOA when you try to broadcast it.  The Bitcoin network would never see it.  Therefore, if you want your transaction to be accepted by the network you really must include that fee.

I heard that the minimum relay fee in Bitcoin Core was reduced to 0.000 01 BTC/kB = 1000 satoshi/kB quite some time ago.  One can see:
Code:
-mintxfee=<amt>        Fees smaller than this are considered zero fee (for transaction creation) (default: 0.0001)
-minrelaytxfee=<amt>   Fees smaller than this are considered zero fee (for relaying) (default: 0.00001)
under "Help, Command-line options" in bitcoin-qt.

I believe that the current minimum relay fee for Armory is still 10 000 satoshi/kB, as suggested by:
Code:
MIN_TX_FEE = 10000
MIN_RELAY_TX_FEE = 10000
(currently lines 128-129 of armoryengine/ArmoryUtils.py)
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japanese Scholars Draft Proposal for a Better Bitcoin on: November 08, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
A dollar-pegged bitcoin?  What's next?  A horse-drawn automobile?
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