Subject: 	RE: Meeting
Date: 	Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:08:24 +0000
From: 	Daniel Kelley <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com>
To: 	Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>




Listen, I am very disturbed about the datacenter announcement which came out yesterday. I called you twice, no answer, left a voicemail, emailed you multiple times and told you I had called – no return call. I have tried to communicate with you.

 

Today, we have a public announcement on hashtrader which I am not comfortable with so I have made a decision to disengage and to communicate the reasons why with you.

 

Today doesn’t work for me. I am a single father with weekends that belong to my kids and their schedules. Especially this weekend.

 

But I don’t see a need to rush. If tomorrow doesn’t work for you then Tuesday, or whenever you are free is fine.

 

Dan

 

Daniel J. Kelley

Principal

Kelley Management Group, Inc.

Business & Technology Transformation

www.kelleymgtgroup.com

Dan@kelleymgtgroup.com

413-279-1930

 

From: Josh Garza [mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:45 AM
To: Daniel Kelley
Subject: Re: Meeting

 

My friend, that should happen before things get to this point. Before you want to meet offsite, or become unsure about being here.

 

I do all my customer stuff Monday….so it makes changing plans tough.

 

I have some time in a few hours. I would prefer that so I can plan this week.

 

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Kelley <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com> wrote:

    I am trying to have that conversation with you.



    -------- Original message --------
    From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>

    Date:08/24/2014 11:37 AM (GMT-05:00)
    To: Daniel Kelley <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com>
    Cc:
    Subject: RE: Meeting

    Dan, if you went from loving bring here one week, and then not wanting to be here the next. Without having one conversation to raise concerns to me, then your probably right.

    That's not how a partnership works. If you don't like something, we discuss at professionals, before it becomes a problem.  This is exactly what I was trying to tell you the other night.

    You made a commitment to me to help me not have to worry about operational things. And that's not happening, so I am (understandably) frustrated.  I am sure you have reasons that are making that hard, or why I feel the way the way I do. And I am sure they are both valid.

    It will come down to the same thing it always does, communication. 

    We have not been communicating well, and both of us could do a better job at it.

    On Aug 24, 2014 11:32 AM, "Daniel Kelley" <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com> wrote:

        I did not read your last email that you want me to respond to. Nor am i calling for a meeting because of that.

         

        I want to meet with you to,let you know that I do not want to be apart of gawminers for a number of reasons.  

         

        I want to meet so that we can have a discussion. And i am being open minded about my reasons for this decision because I don't know what I don't know.

         



        -------- Original message --------
        From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>
        Date:08/24/2014 11:26 AM (GMT-05:00)
        To: Daniel Kelley <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com>
        Cc:
        Subject: RE: Meeting

        It does not, and this is getting silly. I don't have time to run to off-site meetings with you, I am running a company and have meetings scheduled.

        I would appreciate of you would address my comments on my past email.

        On Aug 24, 2014 11:22 AM, "Daniel Kelley" <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com> wrote:

            9:00 @ Panera's work for you? 



            -------- Original message --------
            From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>
            Date:08/24/2014 11:17 AM (GMT-05:00)
            To: Daniel Kelley <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com>
            Cc:
            Subject: Re: Meeting

            If you canceled your day with a the managers to meet with me over my email to you, then there is a misunderstanding somewhere and we may want to get that sorted before we start "changing" things or jumping to conclusions

            On Aug 24, 2014 11:09 AM, "Daniel Kelley" <dan@kelleymgtgroup.com> wrote:

                Good morning, 

                 

                Please pick a time before noon Tomorrow for us to meet off site.

                 

                Thanks

             

Josh...  so I wrote DarkKnight again about a VERY length post where he drew out a lot of his frustration with Zen & GAW and he took it down shortly after I wrote him. He is very sincere and obviously trying hard to protect any chance he has at doing some work with ZenMiner. I'll get his resume to you as soon as I get it. Lets talk about this very soon, I'd like your advice. 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anthony Knight <aknight3@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Issue Resolution
To: "Eric C." <eric@zenminer.com>


It wasn't intended to specifically malign anyone. You read it, and I feel it was an honest, unembelished accounting of my experiences mostly with GAW. What I wrote was in no way a smear campaign. I wrote it in the most neutral light that I could given the experiences that I had and revised it several times before posting it. I have put a tremendous amount of personal time into dealing with GAW and now Zen, and have a ton of correspondence with your two companies.

I don't believe it's fair to judge me solely on it, given the timing of it. When I wrote that as a customer, I had truly felt spurned by you despite my best efforts to actually deliver help, and I had believed that you were quite done with me. It wasn't until after I had posted that, that we exchange a couple more emails and you made it clear there was some kind of other reasoning behind not allowing me to help you more. After which, I spent a lot of time thinking and sent you, what I felt was a thoughtful and comprehensive email detailing what I thought could help you the most and giving you some motivation to see it done with no thought of asking for anything in return.

If anything of what I said stings, I apologize for that -- but I also stand by it. My experience with GAW has been an incredibly drawn out and frustrating game of phone and email tag that *as a customer* I have grown tired of playing. There is no excuse for telling someone you will call or get back to them and then just forgetting about them (for weeks), repeatedly.

I've reached out to you, Josh, and Amanda privately and always offered my advice where appropriate, and treated everyone with patience and respect, asking only for what I felt I was fairly owed from GAW. As to my experience with you, it's been challenging, because I feel like I'm holding my hand out trying to help you up, and prior to today, I've felt that you were keeping me very much at arms length taking what you could use from me and offering little in return in the way of trust. I have no way of knowing what it's like on your end, and you truly offer very little insight into your situation.

Email does not contain the inflection and intonation that normally accompanies verbal communication. It's often hard to estimate how sincere a person is just from a handful of correspondence. Before you basically said: "Hey, I really appreciate the advice, and by the way would you like to formalize an arrangement?" I had no way of being certain how serious you were. I was very surprised by your offer to say the least, because as I said, I had assumed you were getting ready to blow me off.

The part I said about you specifically, is, in my view accurate. You seem to carefully avoid addressing how a used device was passed along to a customer as new, simply saying that it was 'previously assigned to GAW', when you know that is not how a customer would see it. That point is not lost on me, or indeed other readers. Put yourself in my place; you buy yourself a new car at full price, and they deliver it you with 13,000 miles on it, and someone elses' home address programmed into the GPS. You'd be furious. It's not the amount of money involved though, it's the principal of it. I understand and appreciate that you are in a difficult position because of your relationship with GAW, and must be careful about what you say, but I was (at that point) not in that position. It's very black and white to me when it comes to how I've been treated as a customer. There are many other companies in this industry that are so much worse, and yet my worst experiences have involved only GAW.

In light of our communications back and forth today, and as a good faith gesture, I have deleted my post -- which will stay deleted regardless of what happens next. You have my word that beyond what has already been said and transpired openly on the forum I will not add to any negativity or attempt some kind of petty revenge over you choosing to withdraw your offer, if that is what you ultimately intend to do. I do hope, however, that you will show me the same understanding and patience that I have offered you since we first talked.

If, after this, you'd still like to bring me on, I'm still happy to sign up. Let me know if your people continue to be interested in my resume, and I will see it to you by tomorrow night.

-Tony


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Eric C. <eric@zenminer.com> wrote:

    Tony,

    Wow man. I feel sort of dumb for not seeing this post from last night prior to us talking today. Come on man, cut me a break! At least pause the outright slaughter on Zen & GAW until we reach some sort of agreement on how you can HELP us instead of hurt us.

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650228.msg7366318#msg7366318



    Be sure to check out ZenMiner documentation! 

    IMPORTANT: zenMiner personnel will NEVER ask you for your password. Do NOT provide this information to anyone you don't want accessing your zenController.

    --
    Eric C.
    Support Engineer
    support@zenminer.com
    Twitter: @zenMinerSupport

    I'd love your feedback!


    On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Anthony Knight <aknight3@gmail.com> wrote:

        It will take a while to dust that off. I'm not at home at them moment. I will have it to you late this evening, or possibly tomorrow afternoon. I must say that you are very mysterious when it comes to the structure and principals of Zen. It's worth the trouble just to find out who the man (or men) behind the curtain are, so to speak. ;)


        On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eric C. <eric@zenminer.com> wrote:

            Tony,

            Thanks for that very thorough write up of your skills. I see plenty of ways we could utilize you. I've also sent this up to the upper echelon and they have expressed much of the same interest. However, they are asking for a resume as well. Don't worry about down-time you've seen since you started staying home. Also, don't worry about targeting it to any specific role or area. Just the latest revision of a resume you've got will suffice. Sorry if that seems redundant to what you've already given me.

            Also, of course we'd be compensating you with something more valuable than product discounts. We are creative with compensation, but only in the realm of what people (in our industry at least) would deem *actual* compensation, i.e. W2, 1099, Bitcoin, etc. That said, there are other perks as well such as discounts and the occasional free "beta test" hardware.  



            Be sure to check out ZenMiner documentation! 

            IMPORTANT: zenMiner personnel will NEVER ask you for your password. Do NOT provide this information to anyone you don't want accessing your zenController.

            --
            Eric C.
            Support Engineer
            support@zenminer.com
            Twitter: @zenMinerSupport

            I'd love your feedback!


            On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Anthony Knight <aknight3@gmail.com> wrote:

                Thank you for your interest.

                My skill set is quite broad, but only deep in a few areas that are actually relevant to your current hardware issues. My greatest skill is problem solving, plain and simple. It's more difficult to articulate that in a way that doesn't sound like a marketing pitch, but it's the truth.

                In regards to product development, I have an electronic engineering background. Nothing professional, but I know what I am doing. I've had a soldering iron in my hands since I was 6, and it was my father's trade before me, though things have changed a bit since then. Lately I've been doing primarily small business desktop/laptop support (building and repairs), network installations, wifi setups, etc to pay the bills.

                I can read and understand VB, html, php, python, and to a much lesser extent C. Excepting VB, I would not classify myself as a developer. I can competently understand the structure and design of those languages I listed, and have been successful in making many minor bug fixes, but it's not my specialty. Some years ago, I solely developed a electronic record keeping system in VB to integrate and ultimately replace the mandatory paper system that my employer at the time (Nasa/USGS contractor CSC) had been using for record keeping of their day to day satellite operations that I was apart of. I wasn't hired for that purpose, but I saw a need and learned the requisite skills required to develop it while I was on the job. I did it as a side project to reduce my own repetitive and antiquated paperwork load that had been kept since the satellite's launch in 1984. Eventually, it became their primary means of record keeping and was my legacy to the project when I left in 2007.

                Business Management:

                I ran my brother's electrical service business from 2008 until 2012 when I left to take care of my son after he was born. I'm very familiar with the in's and out's of establishing a legal business entity (in Maryland) and maintaining day to day business finances. I worked with a lot of customers, handled all of the paperwork, and literally built his business from what was just organized side-jobs into a $150k/yr legal company.

                I also bought into and ran a Heavy/Medium duty truck repair shop for a while. The company was on the verge of closing down as the owner spent all of his time at the hospital with his sick spouse. I got the mechanics working again, began a local advertising campaign that brought in local business, and handled lots and lots of angry customers. I had 10 mechanics and 2 office admins working for me until the primary owner sold the business off to a larger rival and settled with me.

                Basics:
                I'm competent with the use of pretty much any office software package, and at one point used to train others in it's use. I can proficiently use Photoshop, Premier, & Dreamweaver. I'm comfortable with any MS operating system, except the latest versions of Server. I am proficient enough in Linux, but no guru. I know enough to accomplish my goals, and am quite capable of finding answers to any problems I encounter.


                I've run several websites in the past, and am familiar with the use of CMS' such as Joomla, Mediawiki, and Wordpress as well as PHPBB forum software. To that end, I'm also competent with MySQL & Apache.

                These are only the skills that I feel might be relevant to you needs. My skill do extend far beyond those into many other areas that are more relevant to brick and mortar businesses. Not knowing your specific needs, I'm not sure what I would align with in your company, but I do believe I am an asset to anyone that I choose to work with, often in ways not immediately obvious. I am used to working independently, and do not require direct supervision to accomplish my goals. I have no problems collaborating with others on any given project, either.


                The more difficult part comes in the fact that I'm a full time stay at home dad. I am the primary care giver of my (nearly) 2yr old son. I take him to pre-school in the morning, watching him during the day, and my wife has him mostly during the evenings. My availability is sporadic because it revolves around his schedule. Generally speaking, I have about 90 minutes in the morning, 2 hours in the afternoons, and several hours in the evening to devote to work. I also usually have 1 weekday and Sundays to myself, but can't guarantee anything specific without some advanced warning. This is why I have been independently contracting myself out to local business for desktop support, because I can control my own schedule. Should you choose to hire me, there won't be any conflicts with other work, as I will hold off accepting appointments while I'm actively working with you.

                I'm located in Severn, Maryland quite near BWI airport. It actually makes it super easy to pickup shipments from China because the Air terminal is only about a 15 minute drive away door to door. I never bother with having DHL actually deliver it to me. It's faster if I go get it.

                Compensation is often a tricky subject. Everyone wants a million dollars for a days work, while many companies (not you) generally want a wage slave for $5/hr. Realistically, I will say that my current rate to customers that I contract out to is $150 upfront which includes 2 hours, then $50/hr thereafter. That's usually $300-$400 a day for more complex jobs, and I've been fairly busy through the spring. However, I don't believe that particular compensation model is well suited to the work you have in mind.

                To that end, it's difficult for me to suggest what I think is fair compensation without knowing what resources you have to pay with, nor what you specifically want me to do. I am, in your case, open to unconventional means of compensation -- though that's a very vague term.

                Off the top of my head: payment in new/used hardware (specifically current gen ASICs in good condition, no GPUs), BTC, or of course cash is fine with currency payments holding more value than hardware. Offering discounts on anything as compensation are of little value to me, as all my disposable capital is currently tied up in hardware and they would go unused. If you have anything else in mind, I'm open to it.

                I've laid just about all my cards on the table here, Eric. I'm not the type to dicker or play games where matters of business are concerned. Everything above is an honest accounting of my abilities, availability, and expectations where you're concerned. I am flexible however, and will approach this as seriously as you do. So please tell what you have in mind, what you have to offer, and hopefully we can help each other.



                On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Eric C. <eric@zenminer.com> wrote:

                    It's good to be wanted, Tony! Do me a favor, shoot me a quick list of your relevant skills/abilities prioritized by strength. I know you'd be a valuable asset to us, this will help me decide where you'll fit in best. Also, give me a snapshot of your availability, i.e. daytime, nighttime, evenings and weekends, etc. What state are you located and what sort of compensation interests you most? Obviously in this industry there are creative compensation options.



                    Be sure to check out ZenMiner documentation! 

                    IMPORTANT: zenMiner personnel will NEVER ask you for your password. Do NOT provide this information to anyone you don't want accessing your zenController.

                    --
                    Eric C.
                    Support Engineer
                    support@zenminer.com
                    Twitter: @zenMinerSupport

                    I'd love your feedback!


                    On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Anthony Knight <aknight3@gmail.com> wrote:

                        It's interesting that you propose to hire me; I was speaking with a GAW rep a few weeks back before all this and he wanted me to apply for a job with them as well. I didn't take it too seriously, but I do suspect you can make use of my skills better than GAW, and perhaps might need it more than them.

                        That being the case, I am definitely interested in what you have to offer. Tell me how I can help Zen.


                        On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Eric C. <eric@zenminer.com> wrote:

                            Tony,

                            First of all, your constructive criticism means more to me than you might think. I took all of it to heart and I took your advice literally, I'm reaching out to Josh today for some advice.

                            Regarding the CGMiner binaries, you're again right. We know we can't use the same binary for different devices, nor do we want to for the same reasons you mentioned. We actually have started making some progress with the method in which the cloud pushes the appropriate binary and I am going to take your advice to let the controller keep a local copy of each binary with a unique naming scheme. 

                            More importantly than all of that, I want to make a small confession. I play a slightly larger role in Zenminer than "Tier 1 Tech Support".... But in the light of being a tiny start up with limited resources, I am also help desk. That's about to change so I can focus on the larger picture, I am bringing in a part timer seasoned help desk girl who plans to go full time by the end of the month. She's also a miner which is a plus.

                            Tony, how interested are you in helping us with the Zenminer project? I don't see why we couldn't contract you some work, you're obviously very competent and knowledgeable; and you're right, our current resources are scarce at best. Perhaps consulting or testing? Think on it. Are you open to it?



                            Be sure to check out ZenMiner documentation! 

                            IMPORTANT: zenMiner personnel will NEVER ask you for your password. Do NOT provide this information to anyone you don't want accessing your zenController.

                            --
                            Eric C.
                            Support Engineer
                            support@zenminer.com
                            Twitter: @zenMinerSupport

                            I'd love your feedback!


                            On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Anthony Knight <aknight3@gmail.com> wrote:

                                I was thinking more about this today. You won't be able to use one CGMiner binary to run both zeus and gridseed easily if at all. I don't believe the command line options are compatible in cgminer. Worse, you don't want users to try to run hetrogenus devices on a single RPi. BFGMiner might be able to handle multiple device types with one binary if compiled correctly, and it's what a lot of other distros run and what I'm currently using for half my farm. However it's not always super stable, particularly with orbs, and the hash rates it displays are shaky compared to cgminer. Also Luke-jr is a dick and despises anything but Bitcoin specifically, even going so far as to high-jack his own pool (eligius) to attack a new coin. I would not hinge the future of my company on his development priorities. 

                                Your best bet, I believe, is to have your web panel select a binary and launch options that are specific to the device you are trying to run. Select the best CGMiner forks for each device type. Compile your individual device binaries with static linking and name them something like CGMinerZS (zeus) & CGMinerGS (Gridseed) in the same directory and control which one launches from your cloud API based on device selection there. A better way would be to have the binary auto selected based on the usb vendor ID of attached miners but that is more complicated for now, so just add it to the list for later. 

                                -------------------------------------------

                                Understand that your competition isn't idly standing by. Coinmyne just launched CGRemote v2, and provides a desktop front end that while not as pretty as Zen already handles farm management on pretty much any mining device type, including GPUs. They are building their cloud backend out now and will be providing a web interface that has the same functionality as the desktop version, AND they have mobile apps on the way. Miner.Farm is underfunded, but they are still plugging away and will have a web product ready soon enough. Melt7777 one of the authors of that project seems quite focused on creating revenue streams there as quick as possible. He's pissy that people didn't donate a lot to PiMP, and so is reallocating development resources to his paid projects (i.e. Miner.Farm)

                                You have a great opportunity to become *the* leading control device for ASICs, but you need to get your stuff sorted out like yesterday. This slow-sauce/side-project development speed Zen has been working at does not do you any credit. Your platform is struggling severely, and you are seen by the community as slow to respond to problems, closed off, and unable to meet your own commitments. I'm sure you already know that if you are following BTCtalk & hashtrader as much as you seem to be. Don't let all the 'you'll get there, keep trying' talk fool you. You are wasting time and losing sales. If I was a prospective customer and not already waist deep, seeing what I've seen outside of my own situation, I would not choose your controller based on your current performance. GAW is preventing bad reviews of your product from appearing on their store page, but people aren't stupid. There are free distros that already do what Zen seems unable to, and people are suggesting that it is a better product than yours simply because it works. 

                                IMHO, you need another coder who is invested enough in your project to do it full time, and get you back on track. Don't get the wrong impression, I don't mean me. Maybe you can reach out to Josh and ask him for help or to put you in contact with another professional. Take advantage of your resources. 

                                Just my .00000002 BTC.

Subject: 	Re: FW: FS9221 Insurance Request (ACK) - cancellation Jessicas car
Date: 	Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:50:43 -0400
From: 	Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
To: 	Dan Pease <dpease@geniusesatwork.com>

pls pay


Josh Garza
CEO
GAW Corp
34 E. Dudley Town Rd. 
Bloomfield, CT 06002

Direct Line: 413-206-2500
Josh@gaw.com

www.GAW.com


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Dan Pease <dpease@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:


    Dan Pease
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    Office: 877.543.8429 ex218
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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Alyson Reed <areed@habermaninsurance.com>
    Date: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM
    Subject: FW: FS9221 Insurance Request (ACK) - cancellation Jessicas car
    To: "Dan Pease (dpease@geniusesatwork.com)" <dpease@geniusesatwork.com>


    Hi  Dan -  we've email Jessica but there still has been no payment on her vehicle -  this is the leasing company questioning continuation of insurance before the call in the lease or some other drastic measure.  I know they've moved also - they probably need to let us know their new address so the invoices get there since she also never completed the EFT for direct payment.  There could also be a potential issue going forward because Safety Insurance only writes Ma. exposures - if they are now living in Ct. there could be an issue if there was a claim

    Open to thoughts & suggestions - in the meantime they need to get the payment in

    thanks

    Alyson Reed AAI, CRIS
    Sales Executive
    Haberman Insurance Group
    95 Ashley Ave
    West Springfield, Ma.  01089
    (T) 413-781-7000
    (F) 413-733-9545
    (C) 413-626-1065

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Customer Support [mailto:customersupport@premierfinancialservices.com]
    Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:31 PM
    To: Alyson Reed
    Subject: FS9221 Insurance Request (ACK)

    Good Afternoon,

    Mutual Client: Homero Garza

    We received a notice of cancellation on our mutual client’s policy. Please confirm whether or not the policy has been canceled or if it remains active. If the policy is still active, please provide proof of insurance showing no lapse in coverage.

    Thank you and have a great day!

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014
Subject: Agreement for working relationship
To: ZeusMiner - Terry <terry@zeusminer.com>
Cc: Alex Huynh <alex.huynh38@gmail.com>


It's about making our customers happy, not ourselves. Things will work out for them when stuff us on time and working. And when they are happy, we get to be. 

2. is fine 

5. This has happened, many times, and both way. Let's just both be grown ups and provide the courtesy of letting each other know if plans have changed (pricing, hosting, etc)

8. That's fine 

9. We need to be made aware so we can participate 

Like I said, I don't care about making anyone happy but our customers. 

Stuart on the other hand is a different story. He is the only one here with the ability to wield the recourses of a billion dollar company, so it's a good idea if he stays happy....

Let's move forward. 

Josh 

On Sunday, June 22, 2014, ZeusMiner - Terry <terry@zeusminer.com> wrote:

    No one is forcing anyone here. If anyone is forced, I feel like I was because I got no payment on time and forced on early delivery, and then blamed for delivering late and have to "compensate". So it seems my favors of trying to get all the stuffs out to you guys as early as possible seems not appreciated at all.

    So Alex, please add the following:
    #2 - If minimum spend is not reached, the credit for the week will be no longer be valid, meaning if one week the minimum spend is not met, the $50,000 credit for that week will be gone forever

    #5 - What if GAW is not doing that? There has to be punishments as it happened many many and many times before

    #8 - If GAW is asking for favor in earlier delivery than the original shipment date, then I wanna see a dollar amount or percentage of goods on how much a favor means to you and get paid for it (maybe apply it retroactively as well?)

    #9 - Zeus will be planning more marketing schemes (group-buying for current paid customers, etc.) not included in the terms above. If GAW wants to participate in such an event, discounts and forms of participation will be calculated separately.

    Again, I want you guys to sell more, a lot more. The more you sell and the more money you make, the happier I am. Initially I thought you two were able to make the call and get everything resolved, and turns out I was wrong. Then there is this Stuart dude comes along and bringing up the whole shit again. I'm giving a lot in this relationship trying to make this work and I don't wanna see another Steven or Susie saying they are not happy with us after things settled for weeks. So let's stop pointing fingers and get moving, put the suckers online and make millions with it.

    Best Regards,
    —
    Terry
    CEO
    Zeusminer.com

    On Sun Jun 22 00:59:43 2014, Josh Garza wrote:

        I would rather have it retroact the orders we already have. I don’t
        want to be forced to buy more gear.

        In any case, I need an agreement from Terry before I post any week 6
        stuff.

        *
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        *Josh Garza*
        *CEO*
        GAW
        280 North Main Street, Suite 2
        East Longmeadow, MA 01028

        Toll Free: 888-978-4143
        Direct Line: 413-206-2500
        Fax: 413-206-7101
        Josh@gaw.com <mailto:Josh@gaw.com>

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        On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:01 AM, ZeusMiner - Terry
        <terry@zeusminer.com <mailto:terry@zeusminer.com>> wrote:

            Hi Alex,
            For #3, why don't we do it a simpler way:
            If at the end of the 4 month period, your total purchase from use
            in dollar amount (excluding credits and free stuff) exceeds
            1. 750,000, we give you 5% worth of your total amount either in
            cash or products towards your next order;
            2. 1,000,000, you get 11% worth of total amount either in cash or
            products towards next order.
            It makes accounting much simpler, right?

            Best Regards,
            —
            Terry
            CEO
            Zeusminer.com


            On 6/21/14, 1:56 PM, Alex Huynh wrote:

                Hi guys,

                So as discussed with Terry on the phone:

                1. Minimum spend per week is $210,000 for the next 4 weeks.
                This start date is immediate, 21st July 2014. This minim spend
                is flexible in that if Gaw is short $30,000 a week it has to
                be made up the next week. So if $180,000 of purchases is made
                in one week then the next week it is $240,000.

                2. $50,000 credit per week over 4 weeks provided that the
                weekly minimum spend is reached. Gaw will not receive the
                $50,000 credit if the minimum spend is not reached for the
                week. Credit is in the form of extra hardware to be collected
                with the current PO. So when Gaw pays $210,000 Gaw receives
                $260,000 worth of hardware for the week.

                3. The discount level begins at 25% and follows the existing
                Zeus tiered structure for discounts for the monthly spend. 25%
                for Gaw spend up to $500,000. 30% after spending $750,000 and
                36% after spending $1m. The price discounts applies
                retroactively to all purchases made from the start of the
                month, ie from 21st July. The tiered level is strictly money
                received from Gaw and does NOT include credits into the
                calculation.

                4. Discount structure to be negotiated at the time for
                purchase beyond week 4.

                5. Gaw is required to keep pricing inline with Zeus after
                taking into account shipping cost and differing marketing
                specials. Any price changes requires confirmation from Zeus
                before Gaw can apply it online.

                6. Before price cuts are made by Zeus. Zeus and Gaw is
                required to negotiate the amount of credits Gaw will receive
                to compensate Gaw's own customers as the Zeus compensation
                scheme only applies to Zeus' customers. GAW's proposed
                compensation scheme for GAW's customer has to be confirmed by
                Zeus.

                7. Gaw continue to receive Gaw branded goods from Zeus. Gaw
                will pay for branding and case cost. It is US$20 for the
                Falcon model. Prices for other models TBA but is relative to
                the Falcon cost.

                8. Gaw will provide PO for required amount of goods and those
                goods will be delivered 2 days after cleared payment.

                Terry and Josh please review the terms and reply with an
                agreement.

                Alex






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So you have energy and space to sell?

I may have customers for that

Regards

Juan Garavaglia
112 Bit LLC
1-888-261-6697
http://112bit.com
1111 Lincoln Road
4th Floor
Miami Beach FL 33139


On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

> Perhaps it makes sense to partner, it's here in the US
> On Sep 11, 2014 8:12 AM, "jg@112bit.com" <jg@112bit.com> wrote:
>
>     Josh
>
>     I cant share details about Bitmain or other customer/partner sorry.
>
>     If you have 100 MW at 0.01 cent we cant compete.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Juan Garavaglia
>     112 Bit LLC
>     1-888-261-6697
>     http://112bit.com
>     1111 Lincoln Road
>     4th Floor
>     Miami Beach FL 33139
>
>
>     On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>
>>     Meant to write less them 50k a mega watt
>>
>>     On Thursday, September 11, 2014, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Are you guys going to use Bitmain?
>>
>>         Also, before you commit. I am buying the entire build hit space here in the use for 100k a megawatt. Everything, power, shelving, etc, and about 1 cent a kW 
>>
>>         How does that compare?
>>
>>         On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, Juan Garavaglia <jg@112bit.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Josh!
>>
>>             I have been working with Landsvirkjun the state power company in Iceland and with the Iceland government in the last 2 months and was there to see the options.
>>
>>             We may get up to 100 MW for mining at a competitive cost.
>>
>>             Also there are different options to do the mining facility.
>>
>>             I have contracts already signed with them and we can move forward fast if you need it, Bitfury has a facility there running all new with 9.6 MW.
>>
>>             Let me know if there is any way we can cooperate I am more than happy.
>>
>>             Regards
>>
>>             Juan Garavaglia
>>             112 Bit LLC
>>             1-888-261-6697
>>             https://112bit.com
>>             Twitter @112bit
>>             1111 Lincoln Road 4th Floor
>>             Miami Beach FL 33139
>>
>>             On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>             Interesting timing. I am in the 11th hour on a few choices of places. Would love to hear that you have going on Juan 
>>>
>>>
>>>             Josh Garza
>>>             CEO
>>>             GAW Corp
>>>             34 E. Dudley Town Rd. 
>>>             Bloomfield, CT 06002
>>>
>>>             Direct Line: 413-206-2500
>>>             Josh@gaw.com
>>>             www.GAW.com
>>>
>>>             On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Scott Fargo <talontech1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 HI Josh,
>>>                 I was not kidding about knowing where to put the new data center.
>>>
>>>                 Juan Garavaglia of 112bit has secured 60MW in Iceland for data centers and mining farms.  
>>>                 I have let him know you are looking for a new location.  
>>>                 Juan is one of the people I trust totally and is very skilled in making sure everything is the best and works appropriately. I know you have worked with him before and this would be an excellent next step in your relationship.
>>>                 I hope this helps in your search for a new data center.
>>>                 Let me know if you need any further info or help,
>>>                 Thanks
>>>
>>>                 -- 
>>>                 Scott Fargo
>>>                 Head Of Mining News Dept.
>>>                 CryptoCoinsNews.com
>>>
>>>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Avi Eisenberg <613ike@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Paycoin price
To: Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>


Link set 1:

https://archive.today/b3CvQ#selection-9087.0-9084.3
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled/39
"We are going to push the exchanges past the $20 mark"

Link set 2:
https://archive.today/6K025#selection-901.0-901.44
https://hashtalk.org/topic/24303/paybase-verifications
"Paybase will purchase Paycoins for $20 each."

Link set 3:
https://archive.today/bK12S#selection-865.0-869.16
https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14
"Since we need to launch Paybase AFTER you all get your coins, and we do not want to launch it on the weekend, the most logical thing to do is launch on Monday the 22nd."

Link set 4:
https://archive.today/xpeZ2#selection-9009.0-9009.61
https://hashtalk.org/topic/24266/new-coindesk-paycoin-article/29
"Nothing has changed guys, we will value XPY in paybase at $20"

Link set 5:
https://archive.today/3JKlx
https://twitter.com/BitTreasury/status/546945251777454080
"#Paycoin's US$20 floor price mechanism kicks in!"

Link set 6:
https://archive.today/CK1Q8
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/546931567688687616
"We are fully committed to Paybase and Paycoin. We will purchase Paycoins for at least $20 per coin the second Paybase launches. #XPY"

As you can see each of these has been archived with a timestamp. Taken together, they prove that you promised to purchase Paycoin through Paybase on December 22 at $20 each. https://archive.today/Pfcwm :This archive with a timestamp after December 22 shows that paybase was not working on December 23.

These are not meant to represent all the proof or quotes I have, and I reserve the right to use other proof at a later date.



On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com> wrote:

    Thanks for expressing your concern.

    Please forward the communication your referencing so we can forward to our legal team.

    We will then get back you you shortly

    Sent from my mobile phone
    On Dec 23, 2014 12:03 PM, "Avi Eisenberg" <613ike@gmail.com> wrote:

        I currently own approximately 165 paycoin. (Between 160 and 170. I don't want to tell you the exact amount now because you might then block my transactions.) I was led to believe that they would be worth $20 yesterday (December 22, 2014). There were numerous promises made to that effect by GAW's CEO, Josh Garza, which I can provide documentation of if required.


        As of today, paycoin has a value of around 12 USD. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/ 


        I view this as a breach of promises made, causing me a loss.


        I'm notifying you that I intend to pursue arbitration against GAW MINERS LLC and Josh Garza unless:


        1. You respond within 24 hours and tell me that you agree to buy the paycoin from me, providing me with a paycoin address and

        2. After verifying that I've sent a sum of paycoins to that address, you give me $20 for each paycoin sent up to 170 paycoin.


        I want to give you a fair chance to resolve this without resorting to arbitration. If you do not respond within 24 hours I will be initiating arbitration against you, or perhaps a small-claims court.


        If you have a counter-offer please send it to me and I'll consider it. I am not going to consider "promises" that you will raise the price in another week/month/year. This so called "wall" has been pushed off too much already. If you are willing to buy my paycoins now for the price promised, contact me. If you would prefer to swap paycoin for bitcoin for legal reasons, I can do that.


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Subject: 	Re: We need to do a follow-up on these allegations of fraud.
Date: 	Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:39:26 -0500
From: 	Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
To: 	Casey, Michael J <Michael.Casey@wsj.com>
CC: 	mjlindenberger@gmail.com <mjlindenberger@gmail.com>, Stuart Fraser 
<SFRASER@cantor.com>, Daniel Kelley <dan@geniusesatwork.com>



See you on the call.

In the mean time. My tech guys gave me this for you. Note: This is 
confidential, and should not be share with anyone else. This is just one 
of our mining addresses.
*
*
*We have signed it for you as conformation!*

https://blockchain.info/address/18Yrkm5cRqT1MiqwAUBDcN64hWb1pLutsW

GAW Miners Security team has signed the following message: 
"11-26-2014 GAW Miners/WSJ" using the cryptographic private key for this 
address.   The message hash is: 
"IC7XJZ9Ymp1RwnIpFVpCvv9bl5tYqXifPa0rrpG0RrtmCRbRDvranFVxtWMu3rW8RVwxJMLkuxFKNeybR/4plbk=" 
  To cryptographically verify ownership of this address there are 
several online services. BrainWallet.github.io 
<http://brainwallet.github.io/> is a trusted open source platform which 
provides a method of verifying messages. 
https://brainwallet.github.io/#verify

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
11-26-2014 GAW Miners/WSJ
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
18Yrkm5cRqT1MiqwAUBDcN64hWb1pLutsW
IC7XJZ9Ymp1RwnIpFVpCvv9bl5tYqXifPa0rrpG0RrtmCRbRDvranFVxtWMu3rW8RVwxJMLkuxFKNeybR/4plbk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE——


*As you can see, with just one of our addresses, and we have moved over 
26k Bitcoins in just the last few months. This is 9.5 millions dollars 
at todays pricing.*
*
*
Also, here is Bitmain confirming a recent order of 5 petahash. around 4 
million.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827552.msg9378239#msg9378239

Finally, I have also attached the address of our main data center (and 
the lease)

*All of this is highly confidential information and should not be shared 
to anyone.*


*Josh Garza*
*CEO- *GAW Corp

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Casey, Michael J <Michael.Casey@wsj.com 
<mailto:Michael.Casey@wsj.com>> wrote:

    OK folks, so I need responses in general to the allegations that
    you’re by now well aware of. And to the extent to which there is
    more solid proof, rather than simply a denial, that will be better.
    It will make it seem less like you’re being evasive and giving
    fodder to your critics who say it’s a scam.____

    __ __

    I’m not a position either way on behalf of any of these criticisms.
    And it seems to me that part of the problem is that the bitcoin
    community is full of some very passionate and inherently mistrusting
    people. They are also going to be especially suspicious of any 
    operation that  is perceived to be centralized, run by a for-profit
    corporation, even though, as you argue,  that may be the only
    approach that will bring cryptocurrency into the mainstream. But
    with  the barrage of comments attached to my article and the emails
    I received, it is now impossible for us to not at least write about
    the claims against you. ____

    __ __

    Before we met I’d seen such claims on Reddit and thought it as part
    of the usual trolling that occurs within bitcoin land and typical of
    all the loosely defined “pump and dump” allegations that are leveled
    at pretty much every altcoin or the claims of fraud place on all
    mining service providers. Also, I did some due diligence on you guys
    and you were very helpful and constructive in that regard, including
    the interview with Stuart. That was a constructive approach and it
    gave me confidence. So, I felt that although I can’t back up your
    numbers you clearly have a solid track record and sound business
    associates, so I was happy to run with the article. ____

    __ __

    Sadly, though – rightly or wrongly -- the response to it changes the
    calculus, both for me and for you. (The fact that you’d broadcast
    that there would be a story in WSJ and then openly discussed how and
    when it might run didn’t help, by the way. It puts me in an awkward
    position. Word to wise: don’t do that again with us or any other
    news organization. It can only make life difficult for you.) I now
    need to do a follow-up to acknowledge that these concerns exist. We
    want to get this out today. ____

    __ __

    So, here are the questions, most of which I’m sure you’ve
    encountered before.____

    ____

    __1.__The big one: That this is a Ponzi scheme. What can you provide
    to show that there are actual coins being mined and payments being
    made from them? Are there mining addresses you can reveal that show
    significant bitcoin mining activity to match the claim that you
    account for 50% of new online mining capacity? (Or 90% of Litcoin?) ____

    __2.__What’s the breakdown for that 50% claim? Over what time frame?
    Is that for BTC only or BTC , Litcoin etc. ____

    __3.__Are there other details that you can provide to verify the
    size of your Mississippi operation? An address that allows us to
    search it on Google Earth and street view, for eg.. (Also any very
    recent photos of the inside of the plant and mining rig racks.)?____

    __4.__Why Mississippi? How do you maintain a low-cost operation in a
    state that averages max temperatures year-round of about 75 degrees?
    ____

    __5.__I take it that some of the payments on a hashlet that a
    customer receives comes from trading revenues and some from a pool
    of assets that Gaw mines, in addition to direct mining revenue. Can
    you break out those flows for me? Is there an average across all
    clients?____

    __6.__And if, as various observers say, it’s extremely difficult for
    someone to break even on any cloud mining contract given the
    struggle to keep up with rising difficulty, low prices, etc., then
    isn’t it the case that eventually there will be a pool of
    misfortunate hashlet traders left holding the bag? How do explain
    that there are perpetual gains to be had from owning and trading
    hashlets over time? How do you keep the supply of hashing power up?____

    __7.__Related to that prior question: A static cloud mining contract
    is a depreciating asset by definition, so long as the BTC price is
    flat or falling. How is a hashlet different from that? How can I
    claim that it has upside value? Is this because of the capacity to
    “amp it?” But if so, isn’t the cost of doing so going to rolled into
    the price as well?____

    __8.__Most importantly, if trading and/or investments in a pool of
    assets is part of the business model, is it regulated by the SEC? Do
    your lawyers believe it doesn’t need to be? Are you seeking
    regulation? Where does that stand? ____

    __9.__Critics have described the hashpoint program for pre-ordering
    hashcoin/paycoin as a scheme to cover for the fact that payouts on
    hashlets started to decline early in the fall as difficulty rates
    rose. What’s your answer to that? ____

    __10.__ In general, there’s a view that all cloud mining needs to be
    far more transparent. That fund flows could and should be provably
    posted on a blockchain-based system. What do you say to that?____

    __11.__Critics say the Hashtalk forum is aggressively moderated,
    with dissenters barred and their comments removed. What’s your
    response to that? The same critics also say that you pay supporters.
    Response?____

    __ __

    __ __

    Thanks for your prompt response. ____

    Best wishes, ____

    Michael____

    __ __

    __ __

    __ __

    Michael Casey____

    Senior Columnist, Global Finance____

    The Wall Street Journal____

    212-416-2209 <tel:212-416-2209> (o)____

    914-409-8733 <tel:914-409-8733> (m)____

    michael.casey@wsj.com <mailto:michael.casey@wsj.com>____

    Twitter: @mikejcasey____

    __ __

    __ __

    *From:*Josh Garza [mailto:josh@btc.com <mailto:josh@btc.com>]
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:49 AM
    *To:* Casey, Michael J
    *Cc:* mjlindenberger@gmail.com <mailto:mjlindenberger@gmail.com>;
    Stuart Fraser; Daniel Kelley
    *Subject:* Re: We need to do a follow-up on these allegations of
    fraud.____

    __ __

    As it turned out, this guy said it better then I could. ____

    https://hashtalk.org/topic/19923/my-thoughts-on-recent-external-blog-posts-and-the-comments-that-arise____


    On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com
    <mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote:____

    There are no charges, but the opinions of the same people over and
    over. ____

    __ __

    As I told you on the phone, it's the same few dozen people doing
    this over and over again. Additionally, we confirmed a while back
    that the majority have been hired by competitors. That's that
    happens in this industry when you take customers from other
    companies.____

    __ __

    Honestly, I am just as surprised by this email. The same way you
    mention proof, every troll that makes these allegations has none.
    It's the same story over and over. ____

    __ __

    "I think gaw is doing bad things" "what's your proof" "well there is
    none, I just think that are"____

    __ __

    To add to that, we recently broke 200k customers. If 1% of our
    customers did not like us, it would be 4 times the amount of
    complainers we have. These guys are just loud.____

    __ __

    I am happy to answer any questions you have.

    On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Casey, Michael J
    <Michael.Casey@wsj.com> wrote:____

    Josh, I’m really quite stunned by the comments that have poured into
    the story. It is elephant in the room that demands a follow-up
    story. We are now compelled to address the charges that GAW is a
    fraudulent operation. ____

    I had seen claims that GAW was a scam on Reddit and elsewhere, but I
    see such claims throughout the mining  and altcoin industries,
    legitimate or otherwise  -- it is, as you say, germane to the
    bitcoin community.  So didn’t deep much deeper. I now regret that,
    and if you were aware of those charges against you I think it would
    have behooved you to have gotten ahead of such claims by laying them
    all out in the first place and then providing irrefutable proof to
    shoot them down. Now, we’re both doing repair work. ____

    I did follow-up with some of your business associates and looked
    into your past dealings, checked out the hashcoin white paper, and
    felt confident that you had a big operation underway. But now with
    these overwhelming responses (from a group that might well be just
    disgruntled traders), I need to do a significant amount more work,
    specifically related to proof of the mining operation, its size and
    the capacity to consistently pay out ROI based on actual mined
    coins, as well as into the handling of the hashtalk.org
    <http://hashtalk.org> forum. ____

    So  I’ll need your cooperation in responding to some of  these
    charges and to the various questions that I’ll have as follow-ups.
    (I’ll get back to you with those shortly.) You can see this as a
    chance to put to bed once and for all these serious allegations
    against you. ____

    Regards,____

    Michael ____

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    *From:*Josh Garza [mailto:josh@btc.com]
    *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:40 PM
    *To:* Casey, Michael J
    *Subject:* Thanks____

    ____

    For the piece____

    ____

    I wanted to quickly address your comment on the phone about the us
    letting the public know we has spoken. Long and short is I am used
    to more reginal publications where a story typically runs the day
    after. I have gotten used to letting customers know where to look
    when a story is about to come out. I did not understand coming to
    meet with you was more of a meet and greet. So sorry for the
    confusion is caused.____

    ____

    While I am just as weirded as you guys with the characters in this
    industry (on both extremes), I am glad people care.____

    ____

    *Josh Garza*
    *CEO- *GAW Corp____

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