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Also, the homero as a dancing jester gif could use an update, perhaps to a Dubai background?
Here's a good backdrop
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April 17, 2015, 01:29:09 AM |
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Bunch o fucking retards over at hash talk, holy shit, just browsing through the forum and as you guys keep pointing out, the mood is actually optimistic and positive. I wish i had that kind of outlook on life, instead of a more realistic outlook involving the need for a solution involving come uppins...anf i didnt even lose money on this.One thing positive is that cryptsy users seem to be figuring it out. I asked the trollbox the other day why they continue to trade and support a scam/shit coin, and nobody seemed to be at issue with it. Logged in more recently and all people were talking about was the paycoin scam. Maybe if enough people oppose it cryptsy will consider delisting it instead of alienating customers, thus ending this bu llshit forever. I'm past the point of worrying about holders losing their investment, new crypto users getting suckered by con artists is much more worrisome to me. Also, the homero as a dancing jester gif could use an update, perhaps to a Dubai background?
Optimism is simply a lack of information True. In this case though, the information is there and they simply chose to ignore it. Fools I tell ya. FOOLS! If this were a regular fraud case involving regular securities, the cult would have been disbanded long ago because regulators would be all over it. I too am surprised by the lack of regular media coverage this is getting. Somebody brought that up a while ago. Cantor Fitzgerald puts its name on a massive crypto pump and dump fraud scheme, and that isn't news?
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April 17, 2015, 01:31:42 AM |
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Your lack of reading comprehension is why you and the rest of your lot are going to lose all your money to this conman. First, this doesn't prove anything, they typed up lots of bullshit and didn't follow through on it. Second, even if they did go through with it, READING the actual document shows why the honors program would have been complete bullshit, even if it did happen. "4.3 Repurchase Delays Due to High Demand. Demand to participate in the Repurchase Program is uncertain. Because the monthly Contribution Amount is a percentage of Company’s monthly post-tax profits, high demand to participate may cause substantial delays in the Company’s ability to repurchase your Paycoins. 4.4 Repurchase Delays Due to Company Finances. Because the Monthly Contribution amount is likely to vary with the fluctuation of Company’s post-tax profits from month to month, a lack of available funds will cause delays to the repurchase of Paycoins. 4.5 Paycoins May Never Be Repurchased. For any number of reasons, including but not limited to a lack of available funds, company insolvency and regulatory developments, the Company may never be able to repurchase Paycoins deposited into the Vault. 4.6 Artificially High Demand. Because participation in the Repurchase Program is available to any person that holds Paycoins, it is possible that a person could purchase a large quantity of Paycoins before the Deposit Period for the purpose of participating in the Repurchase Program. Because Paycoins will be repurchased from the Vault in the order in which they were deposited, large deposits made at the beginning of the Deposit Period may create delays for other participants." Those 3 specifically say that they don't actually have to give people money for the coins, which was also spelled out in the announcement of program. I still have not seen one logical reason why the honors program announcement moved the price up 1 satoshi because it said in plain english that they didn't have to give everyone $20 right away or ever. All I said was that they planned some of it. There was no proof of that before this, now we have the text. No need for personal attacks. I didn't say it was a well thought out plan or anything like that. I just thought it would be interesting and relevant to this thread.
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April 17, 2015, 01:34:06 AM |
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All I said was that they planned some of it. There was no proof of that before this, now we have the text. No need for personal attacks.
I didn't say it was a well thought out plan or anything like that. I just thought it would be interesting and relevant to this thread.
clearly the planning never hit the "get the right documents to and approval from the SEC" stage or the "have enough capital on hand to enable this" stage (but got announced anyways
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April 17, 2015, 01:38:54 AM |
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Yes, he realized that it was illegal to post libel after we pointed it out to him. ROFL! ^^ That's exactly what MrCeo would say. [[For the record, I've been RPing a fictional villain on tumblr for over a year now. I've got some experience with how to sound convincing in-character. (Let's see if that gets me any closer to being doxxed:)]] Yes, he realized that it was illegal to post libel after we pointed it out to him. Lol, needs more misspelling if you're going to continue to impersonate Josh. relized that after i posted. netx time.
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April 17, 2015, 01:39:14 AM |
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All I said was that they planned some of it. There was no proof of that before this, now we have the text. No need for personal attacks.
I didn't say it was a well thought out plan or anything like that. I just thought it would be interesting and relevant to this thread.
clearly the planning never hit the "get the right documents to and approval from the SEC" stage or the "have enough capital on hand to enable this" stage (but got announced anyways Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is that Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to buy more time to dump more XPY. I will try to dredge that Email up again.
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All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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April 17, 2015, 01:45:06 AM |
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There is a large community around it and they still have things partially done that can work if redesigned to benefit the holders and not just one or two people. Lots of dumb people but they still have a large amount of funds they could draw from and if you took the bad actors out then they might even see some returns.
Thanks for helping man, there's now way of knowing how things will ultimately work out for XPY, but if a group of people sincerely get behind it and attack its problems (and I think that's currently happening), then it could yet become a good coin. The day paycoin becomes a "Good Coin" is the day I turn my back on crypto altogether.
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April 17, 2015, 01:47:35 AM |
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All I said was that they planned some of it. There was no proof of that before this, now we have the text. No need for personal attacks.
I didn't say it was a well thought out plan or anything like that. I just thought it would be interesting and relevant to this thread.
clearly the planning never hit the "get the right documents to and approval from the SEC" stage or the "have enough capital on hand to enable this" stage (but got announced anyways Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is the Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to but more time to dump more XPY. I will try to dredge that Email up again. I'm looking through some of these emails now. Which date was that email? Maybe it was like the email with paycoin, where he claimed to realize a problem before launch? I don't get how anything I said now implies that I don't think Josh is capable of lying to everyone. And "writing up a plan for employees to see" is still "planning". I'd like to see that email you refer to though, if I can't find it myself.
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April 17, 2015, 01:47:43 AM |
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There is a large community around it and they still have things partially done that can work if redesigned to benefit the holders and not just one or two people. Lots of dumb people but they still have a large amount of funds they could draw from and if you took the bad actors out then they might even see some returns.
Thanks for helping man, there's now way of knowing how things will ultimately work out for XPY, but if a group of people sincerely get behind it and attack its problems (and I think that's currently happening), then it could yet become a good coin. The day paycoin becomes a "Good Coin" is the day I turn my back on crypto altogether. +1
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April 17, 2015, 01:48:07 AM |
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relized that after i posted. netx time.
Still needs sum work. It has too bee phone ethically close butt make no scents.
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April 17, 2015, 01:48:44 AM |
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All I said was that they planned some of it. There was no proof of that before this, now we have the text. No need for personal attacks.
I didn't say it was a well thought out plan or anything like that. I just thought it would be interesting and relevant to this thread.
clearly the planning never hit the "get the right documents to and approval from the SEC" stage or the "have enough capital on hand to enable this" stage (but got announced anyways Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is the Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to but more time to dump more XPY. I will try to dredge that Email up again. I'm looking through some of these emails now. Which date was that email? Maybe it was like the email with paycoin, where he claimed to realize a problem before launch? I don't get how anything I said now implies that I don't think Josh is capable of lying to everyone. And "writing up a plan for employees to see" is still "planning". I'd like to see that email you refer to though, if I can't find it myself. What the fuck ever asshole. Get reading or don't, I am not your bitch.
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April 17, 2015, 01:51:06 AM |
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Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is that Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to buy more time to dump more XPY.
I will try to dredge that Email up again.
yeah, here's one of many emails From: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> To: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:57:09 -0500 Sender: josh@geniusesatwork.comLet's Brian invoked. That makes no sense. That's like taco bell saying we will sell you tacos and 10k show show up at 4 in the morning, and saying they have to open up and serve everyone person. So if a store runs a promotion that says you can buy a tv today for 500 bucks. And a guy comes in and ask for 1000 tvs, they have to provide them all? I could keep going, but I am not going to do it based on the reason you just sent. I may not agree with the realm, but it at least has to make sense. Let's also not forget that it's still questionable, asked a friend of my that has done legal work on this, whether or not our company is even bound to a commitment based on a personal Twitter post.....as those were the only ones that even actually said anything. he uses a similar not-applicable analogy using 'free coffee' in another document that wasnt published lol, editing post for further responses to josh in this chain: From: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 07:08:26 +0000 When Taco Bell does a promotion, they usually include language that says “limitations may apply”. We did not do that. The commitment wasn’t just one twitter post. This customer sent us 5 different links. From: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> To: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:15:21 -0500 Sender: josh@geniusesatwork.comRead the links bud. Only two says something of relevance. This was a not a promotion, nor was my analogy. It's a question of reasonability. Just because a company says something can happen, it does not mean no matter what and unlimited amount. Using your logic, could the guy had shown up with a million coins? How about a billion? Like I said, the only link he sent that has any real merit is the Twitter link. Which is a straw man argument at best. He does list one ht link some a similar reference, is actually focused on restrictions and verifications. Which would void this entire conversation (if you went to look) he might be too dumb to realize what he was doing is illegal
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April 17, 2015, 01:55:04 AM |
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Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is that Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to buy more time to dump more XPY.
I will try to dredge that Email up again.
yeah, here's one of many emails From: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> To: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:57:09 -0500 Sender: josh@geniusesatwork.comLet's Brian invoked. That makes no sense. That's like taco bell saying we will sell you tacos and 10k show show up at 4 in the morning, and saying they have to open up and serve everyone person. So if a store runs a promotion that says you can buy a tv today for 500 bucks. And a guy comes in and ask for 1000 tvs, they have to provide them all? I could keep going, but I am not going to do it based on the reason you just sent. I may not agree with the realm, but it at least has to make sense. Let's also not forget that it's still questionable, asked a friend of my that has done legal work on this, whether or not our company is even bound to a commitment based on a personal Twitter post.....as those were the only ones that even actually said anything. he uses a similar not-applicable analogy using 'free coffee' in another document that wasnt published That was before Paybase launched. Well before there was any talk of the Honors Program.
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April 17, 2015, 01:57:36 AM |
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Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is that Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to buy more time to dump more XPY.
I will try to dredge that Email up again.
yeah, here's one of many emails From: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> To: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:57:09 -0500 Sender: josh@geniusesatwork.comLet's Brian invoked. That makes no sense. That's like taco bell saying we will sell you tacos and 10k show show up at 4 in the morning, and saying they have to open up and serve everyone person. So if a store runs a promotion that says you can buy a tv today for 500 bucks. And a guy comes in and ask for 1000 tvs, they have to provide them all? I could keep going, but I am not going to do it based on the reason you just sent. I may not agree with the realm, but it at least has to make sense. Let's also not forget that it's still questionable, asked a friend of my that has done legal work on this, whether or not our company is even bound to a commitment based on a personal Twitter post.....as those were the only ones that even actually said anything. he uses a similar not-applicable analogy using 'free coffee' in another document that wasnt published That was before Paybase launched. Well before there was any talk of the Honors Program. So he was definitely going to offer a $20 floor....just not for everyone. Garza is such a moron; that's not how a floor works.
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April 17, 2015, 01:58:43 AM |
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relized that after i posted. netx time.
Still needs sum work. It has too bee phone ethically close butt make no scents. I tink youd be batter at dis than me PM me if you want to tak ovr this account. (got lots of exp tradng bct accounts after all.
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April 17, 2015, 02:01:17 AM |
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he might be too dumb to realize what he was doing is illegal
Thankfully, stupidity and ignorance is not a valid legal defence.
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April 17, 2015, 02:03:17 AM |
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Yesterday I was reading a discussion between Josh and one of the lawyers and he clearly stated that the Honors Program would not work, not just because of legality. Josh acknowledged this, and proceeded anyways. What imbeciles like ikeboy can not come to grips with is that Homero lies to EVERYONE, not just the suckers like him. He needed the GAW team(at least most of them) to believe that they were working on something real, when he knew full well it was all just a puff of smoke being used to buy more time to dump more XPY.
I will try to dredge that Email up again.
yeah, here's one of many emails From: Josh Garza < josh@gaw.com> To: Andy Beal < andy@crowleystrategy.com> Subject: Re: Paycoin price Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:57:09 -0500 Sender: josh@geniusesatwork.comLet's Brian invoked. That makes no sense. That's like taco bell saying we will sell you tacos and 10k show show up at 4 in the morning, and saying they have to open up and serve everyone person. So if a store runs a promotion that says you can buy a tv today for 500 bucks. And a guy comes in and ask for 1000 tvs, they have to provide them all? I could keep going, but I am not going to do it based on the reason you just sent. I may not agree with the realm, but it at least has to make sense. Let's also not forget that it's still questionable, asked a friend of my that has done legal work on this, whether or not our company is even bound to a commitment based on a personal Twitter post.....as those were the only ones that even actually said anything. he uses a similar not-applicable analogy using 'free coffee' in another document that wasnt published That was before Paybase launched. Well before there was any talk of the Honors Program. No shit Sherlock? The "Honors Program" was the rebranding of the $20 floor/ Buyback Program as described in these Emails. Same sack of shit with a different label on it, and Homero knew with 100% certainty that there was no possible way to make it work and went ahead with "plans" for it anyway, so that he could get stupid fuckers like you to buy more of his worthless shitcoins. Give it up already. Your hero is a fucking fraudster, and you are his fucking bitch.
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All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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That was before Paybase launched. Well before there was any talk of the Honors Program.
No shit Sherlock? The "Honors Program" was the rebranding of the $20 floor/ Buyback Program. Same sack of shit with a different label on it, and Homero knew with 100% certainty that there was no possible way to make it work and went ahead with "plans" for it anyway, so that he could get stupid fuckers like you to buy more of his worthless shitcoins. Give it up already. Your hero is a fucking fraudster, and you are his fucking bitch. You are the only one of us who thinks Garza is a hero of mine. Repeating it many times won't make it true. (And then you say I have a problem with the truth.)
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April 17, 2015, 02:06:15 AM |
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Yes, he realized that it was illegal to post libel after we pointed it out to him. ROFL! ^^ That's exactly what MrCeo would say. [[For the record, I've been RPing a fictional villain on tumblr for over a year now. I've got some experience with how to sound convincing in-character. (Let's see if that gets me any closer to being doxxed:)]] Yes, he realized that it was illegal to post libel after we pointed it out to him. Lol, needs more misspelling if you're going to continue to impersonate Josh. relized that after i posted. netx time. Better. Carry on, Homero.
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