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381  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Cash out your bitcoin for paypal (7% / 50 usd min) on: September 12, 2017, 05:27:09 PM
why have you excluded newbies?
i dont like dealing with newbies.

What is the advantage of this? Exchanges charge way less to convert currencies.
if they want the money instantly instead of waiting however long it might take for an ach payment to process with the bank, and they don't want to deal with scammers / higher fees for paypal trades, this service exists for the few that may need it.
382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it true that most of the new real money into crypto is coming from korea? on: September 12, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
Hmm, I just checked coinmarketcap now, and theres no KRW. Can you give me the link? Anyway if this is true , the Korean coin KRW must be centralized and controlled by their government? Can we mixed a centralized with decentralized coin like BTC, ETH?
won is the literally the currency (fiat) of south korea, like how the dollar is the currency of the us, and the pound for the UK. you could at least do a simple google search and not look like a total idiot.

During the past 2-3 months, there has been a spike in demand from both Japan and South Korea. The spike in Japan was caused by the legalization of Bitcoin there. But IMO, the sudden surge in South Korea was caused by the tensions with the DPRK. The southerners are worried that their currency may get devalued. So they are moving their wealth to some safe asset.
it's not just the north / south tensions that are causing this, sure it may have been a contributing factor, but even then no sane person would convert their entire liquidity into a single asset (bitcoin). the south korean government has been passing legislature that favors the growth and use of bitcoin in recent times, apparently there was another piece of legislation passed that made the seizure of bitcoin unlawful, just one off the top of my head. As for japan, they seem to wholeheartedly be on board with bitcoin, with that large company pouring millions into a mining farm with 7nm technology and the central government legalizing bitcoin some time ago. seems to me the future of bitcoin will start with the help of these two countries.
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin dies does altcoin die? on: September 12, 2017, 07:53:22 AM
Bitcoin and altcoin are not connected by its system so if bitcoin will die then altcoins will not die because they have their own system and blockchain so it is not a problem for them to worry for the life of bitcoin because the only thing that matter to them is, bitcoin is the one which is used to buy mostly of the altcoins.
not connected by any sort of network, sure, but they are definitely connected by idea. just them being cryptocurrencies are enough for, lets say, news that damages crypto to cause all of them to dip in value simultaneously. we've actually seen this happen quite recently in fact, when the news broke that china had banned ICO's, the price of bitcoin and alts (the major ones, from what I could see. I dont really care to track prices all that much) dropped a similar amount by percentage. i think it's fair to say that if bitcoin were to be banned worldwide, alts would follow suit. however, this theory does not hold if bitcoin phases out of relevancy from not being scalable, and another alt takes over as the forefront of cryptocurrency.
384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet getting blocked? on: September 12, 2017, 07:32:28 AM
Is it possible for any reason that your wallet gets blocked?  Huh
Yes,i too don't think that it could happen.Only one issue with the wallet would be that if you miss your private keys.But while using the wallets,we should first ensure that we really download wallet from the official website or not.For example,recently when hard fork happened and new BCC coins were created and many got free BCC coins equal to the number of bitcoins,one person has downloaded a wallet from Electrum cash.com which was later changed to Electron cash.com.He has lost his 40 bitcoins since it was a wallet from a fake website and instead,he should have downloaded it from the official website Electrum.org.
i think you missed the question, i think the op was trying to ask if his transactions from his wallet could be prevented from being processed, not if his wallet could be compromised.
and yes, it can. to my understanding, if big pools and miners set it so that transactions originating from addresses known to be contained in your wallet (technically, it would only have to be addresses containing the coins you are trying to spend in a particular transaction) then your transactions would not be processed. however, if a miner or pool not blocking your addresses were to find the block, and your transaction was included in that block, it would be processed. this (again, to my understanding. someone can correct me if im wrong) is the same idea that allowed the services that sped up transactions to work.
385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: South Korean Court Rules Confiscation of Bitcoins Illegal on: September 12, 2017, 07:16:12 AM
Maybe they should consider illegal confiscation of bank accounts, since bank accounts are virtual nowadays Huh
first off im not sure how one can 'confiscate' an account, perhaps you meant something more along the lines of freezing someone's assets? this is just a guess, but in that case, i think in legal terms, there is a difference between what bitcoin is classified as, versus the legal tender of a nation as deemed by the government (which is contained in a bank account).

"[it is]“not appropriate to confiscate Bitcoins as they cannot assume an objective standard value.”
in this case, the korean won, the legal tender of the republic of korea, does indeed hold an objective value.

They are right. But sooner or later it will be misused by criminals, and the whole finantial system is based on virtual stuff that doesn't even exist. Banks can create money out of nothing and lend it.
bitcoin has already been used in such a manner by criminals, namely silk road and other marketplaces would be the first thing that comes to mind.

386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin dies does altcoin die? on: September 12, 2017, 02:34:23 AM
Bitcoin is a very popular crypto coin today, we know that Bitcoin will be very expensive in the future but I imagine if Bitcoin die, whether there will be hope for the future of altcoin? because most altcoin exchanges are to bitcoins
your opinion is highly appreciated. Smiley

I think it's possible, although there are a lot of good alternatives in the market, but bitcoin is the first one and almost all altcoins depend on Bitcoin for it's value, the majority of altcoins will be useless once Bitcoin dies.
not true at all, a lot of these altcoins are intended as projects in the case that bitcoin does fail; a lot of these altcoin shills are people that believe wholeheartedly that bitcoin will fail, and whatever alt they push long term will be the 'one altcoin to rule them all' or something. granted, a lot of these will die out and be worth nothing in the foreseeable future, a few of these (namely litecoin, ethereum, dash) i can believe will exist entirely separately after bitcoin dies out, if it does. but yes, the majority of pump and dump shitcoins will be worthless, but it's not as if they arent already worthless anyways.

Altcoins would not really die, but it would lose some of its power and it may be not good enough to invest in different altcoins because I think altcoins depend on the value of bitcoin. Without bitcoin how would you convert and get your salary in the form of altcoins? You need an exchanger in order to officially accept your salary and then you can do anything you want with it.

You are 100% right about the second part. Most of the altcoins can be purchased only with BTC. They can't be purchased with fiat currency (in most cases). And yes... IMO, the altcoin bubble is just about to burst. There are so many altcoins with a market cap of more than 1 billion USD, and this is simply not sustainable in the long term.
they can always be purchased with other altcoins, just depends if that form of payment is accepted or not.
387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which is more profitable, trading in Crypto coins or trading in stock market?? on: September 11, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
I think more profitable trading in bitcoin / altcoin. Especially if we can read up and down the price index bitcoin / altcoin in a few months. To be sure if we are already experienced in the world of trading this investment would be very profitable.
potentially, maybe. but that's only potentially, if you hit on every altcoin that gets pumped and dump at the right times. however, anyone should know that the chances of this hypothetical situation actually happening is pretty close to zero. comparatively, we can look at penny stocks on the stock markets, which can balloon maybe not as fast as some of these altcoins, but they can, nonetheless. I don't think i know enough about both to make a fair judgement, but honestly i think its a coin toss, just the right time and the right stocks / coins might make all the difference in which volatile investment comes out ahead.
388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How about establish a grand new country whose official money is BTC? on: September 11, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
If one day most of countries in the world ban BTC, will someone with a lot of money spend million or even billion of dollars to establish a whole country. In this country, you will exchange with BTC and other crypto. Will you leave your coutry and move to this 'wonderland'?
i dont think that would ever actually work out, even for a decade. why? unless this hypothetical country can produce literally everything it needs, from resources, technology, services, infrastructure, manufacturing, etc, it will need to trade with other nations. if those countries that the hypothetical country would need to trade with had banned bitcoin, well, they simply couldn't trade without a means to provide something other than bitcoin as their trading tool. sure, countries could provide other goods (essentially, barter) to trade with, but i think the world economy is fairly stable in who provides what. Of course, this could hypothetically be overcome, but it's unlikely without a globally accepted currency to leverage with.
Also, i highly doubt that any one country can be entirely self - sufficient.
389  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fake Japanese translator on: September 10, 2017, 07:18:18 AM
It's clear that Lauda is bias and I don't know how much did kawasaki paid for her to give me a negative feedback.
Quoted for reference and left another negative rating for defamatory lies.
This is unacceptable☹☹
Let's quickly summarize:
1) Used automated translation tools.
2) Attempted to bribe me.
3) Made defamatory statements without any proof whatsoever.

"Unacceptable". Roll Eyes
How can you say that I used automated translation tools?, you don't even have any proof and then you conlude already.

could you link the original ann post that you translated and the post you (claim) to have translated? if we slap that into google translate and it comes out the same as the one you posted, it should be pretty clear if you did or didnt. if you decide to not respond to this ill take it that you're admitting guilt.
390  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Cash out your bitcoin for paypal (7% / 50 usd min) on: September 09, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
Can you please explain your fee structure. is it + or - 7%?
i dont think there's anything to explain, im charging a fee of 7% with a 5 dollar minimum, was this somehow not clear? or just wishful thinking on your part?

391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How convincing can one persuade close relatives to join bitcoin investment on: September 09, 2017, 06:19:51 PM
Not really convincing them since that can cause problems later. They'd probably panic when they see a price drop and pester you about it and then you'd end up hating each other.

Better just inform them what it is and that you have invested. Never pull them into this. If they are interested, they'd reach out and ask you to help them set up things.
that's one very great point to make, you shouldnt really try to convince someone to put their money into something they have no knowledge or interest in, in this case, their panicking from the regular price fluctuations is probably a very likely outcome considering their lack of knowledge in the subject. if anything, see if they want to learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general before anything else, see if its something they want to put money into of their own accord. there's too much perceived negative air surrounding bitcoin to the ignorant for one to feel comfortable putting money into it (thats my thinking anyways).
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan ready to kick Bitmain's ass on: September 08, 2017, 02:36:54 PM
that's actually great, bitmain has always held a sort of monopoly over mining hardware, and the fact that no other manufacturer has been able to compete in efficiency doesn't help at all. with a company willing to invest this much into a market already dominated (by bitmain), it might drive prices of mining hardware down and let it be accessible to a greater range of people. to add, it seems theyre planning to go forward with a 7nm architecture, and with that, we might be seeing single asic machines capable of hashing at 25+ TH/s. didnt seem to say if the company would make these available for purchase to the public, but I really do hope that's the case.
393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers are active these days. on: September 08, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
Some bitcoin users told me not to do transactions in these couple of days because hackers are active these days. I want to know is it true? or some kind of rumor? Anyone here who have faced such problem?

Well in my own opinion, there are really many hackers these days so you need to be fully aware in your transactions. But always look in where you are typing because there are many fake websites that can steal your accounts in just one click, so always keep your eyes open or pilled.

This. As a sig camp manager, you would be floored at the amount of folks on a weekly basis that have their ETH wallets compromised. In a group of 300 people, say at least 10% of those folks get hacked during the course of a 4 WEEK campaign; another 5% will change their wallet addresses due to "possible insecurity'. This is why cryptos are so attractive to scammers/hackers; its just too easy at the moment given the high numbers of novice users. This is also why crypto isnt ready for the mainstream yet. There is a reason why ach is reversible, and that is that people tend to fuck up. Given how easy it is to fuck up in a very expensive way here, we will continue to be plagued by this until crypto becomes a lot more user friendly  Wink
would you care to explain how an eth wallet gets hacked in this context? im not trying to rail you on anything, just a legitimate question. it seems to me with each major altcoin, there is always a greater emphasis on security as it's expected that individuals new to crypto are entering the scene due to hearing about some new cryptocurrency. given those assumptions, it seems rather ridiculous that such a large percentage of wallets could be compromised on a regular basis. I dont know enough about the ethereum scene enough to formulate a possible reason, so if you could enlighten me, that'd be awesome.

Some bitcoin users told me not to do transactions in these couple of days because hackers are active these days. I want to know is it true? or some kind of rumor? Anyone here who have faced such problem?
All of us do really have the possible risk of getting hacked but as long we are not careless then it doesnt really matter at all.Theres no need to worry.Sometimes our curiosity leads us into things which we dont expect.Clicking random links or even on phishing links can really be done if we are not really aware on it.I would like to say that this forum does really help us about new possible scams that do exist today which im thankful that my awareness and knowledge do add up.
there's only a potential to get hacked if you leave a reason that would cause you to be vulnerable. a hard wallet with zero network connection with transactions only created and signed, then broadcast to the network on a separate machine, for example, leaves nearly zero risk of being compromised. there's always a reason a vulnerability exists, and more often than not, the user themselves are at fault for causing it.
394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not Just for the Money! on: September 08, 2017, 07:35:57 AM
well you can't deny the profitability of  bitcoin and you can not exactly call it greed when someone invest in them and wants the money.
for most people it starts like that and then they become more familiar with bitcoin and start liking it also when they see the benefits of using bitcoin. but that never is everyone. there will always be people who don't care about anything in the world apart from that piece of paper we call cash Wink
but op isnt denying the value of bitcoin and how its value has increased exponentially over the years. op is pointing out that its not just an asset of value, it's the start of a technological revolution that could very well lead to the currencies akin to those we might see in a sci fi film. and you can;t really blame those who just treat it as money / value, money does make the world go 'round after all. Personally, i think holding bitcoin is having a stake in the future, even though i believe bitcoin itself might not be the currency we all use in the future. Just by using bitcoin, i can ultimately come to familiarize myself with its basics and inner workings, and ultimately be ahead of the great majority if a cryptocurrency were to be adopted worldwide as the global means of trading value. its also pretty cool if you're a gook like me, so i guess there's that.

395  Economy / Currency exchange / Cash out your bitcoin / eth / ltc for paypal (7% / 50 usd min) on: September 08, 2017, 07:25:13 AM
Let's make this simple. Sell your bitcoin to me for paypal funds. I won't be sending first (i don't care about what you say about paypal being reversible and me being protected) without a good reason or if i know you've got a solid rep.
- Do not send to any address of mine without confirmation from me. any coins that magically appear in my wallet will be considered a donation.
- Minimum trade will be 50 usd, as calculated by the preev rate to be locked in before the trade.
- I'll limit the maximum for now to about 200 usd.
- Minimum fee will be 5 usd in case you want to do a small trade.* other than that, fee will be 7%. this isnt a charity after all.
- I will not be dealing with newbies.
- Paypal funds will be sent after 1 confirmation.
- read this post and understand the terms. really.

I'm offering this service as a means for people that want to cash out their bitcoin without dealing with the plethora of low ranked members looking to scam. I've done a fair number of deals on this forum thus far, some including paypal and bitcoin exchanges, so I'd like to think I have some established trust at least. I'd like to just have a few regulars in the future, so if you just want small amounts of coin converted to paypal on a regular basis, either post in this thread or shoot me a pm. pm's will probably reach me faster.

I'll be doing probably ~1000 usd worth of deals a week max for now.
please note there will be a slightly higher fee on deals if your accounts are based outside of the US. there is a small fee associated with usd -> other currency exchanges (even on friends & family gift) and i will notify you if there is.

thread self modded to delete spam in general.

any requests to add on skype / whatsapp / kik /whateverthefuckelse will be ignored / deleted. trades will be done via the forum messaging system.

To initiate a trade, please pm me with how much of what coin you are trying to sell for as well as the country you reside in.

also, now accepting ethereum and litecoin.

latest update: along with the addition of the merit system, I will trade with users of at least the 'member' rank and at least 35 merit. this is subject to change as i get more familiar with the merit system.
396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you have some BTCs, why not have some Gold? on: September 08, 2017, 06:09:24 AM
Well, the reason why I do not hold any gold is very easy.... "Executive Order 6102" ---  Executive Order 6102 is a
United States presidential executive order signed on April 5, 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt "forbidding the
Hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States". The effect of the order..
*Why would you want to hoard Gold if the government can simply issue a executive order to confiscate it?

The government can also issue an executive order to confiscate all Bitcoins, if they choose to do so.

Would you give your Bitcoins? Probably not. Would you give your gold? Only if you choose to do so.
Not everyone gave up their gold in 1933, even though owning gold was illegal.
exactly, it's a big if on weather or not a law will actually be enforced; if the government (in these cases) does not have total knowledge of who controls a particular asset and how much of it, they cannot enforce this type of law. in fact, they have zero power to do so, and can only hope to rely on the people being honest and stepping up to disclose their holdings.

I don't have some gold because the value of gold takes time to go up and we can't easily gold unlike bitcoin and bitcoin is more secure to hold that gold if you keep in your house you might get robbed.
okay and? bitcoin takes time to appreciate in value too (and it can deprecate as well), can people actually not think this far? it seems everyone is hung up on the potential negative or not as positive aspects of an asset and either completely fail to process the fact in their brains that the exact same could be said of the other, or flat out ignore the fact.
397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you have some BTCs, why not have some Gold too? on: September 07, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
BTC ultimately aims to replace cash but gold doesn't.
correct. bitcoin ultimately boils down to being an experiment. an experiment that aims to accomplish several things that aren't really mainstream in this day and age: a decentralized currency, not backed by any central government or organization, and a completely digital means of a monetary system, completely separate from a government's legal tender. gold has an established place in today's world as an asset; it's glory days are over.

I have both. Diversification Cool I have much more BTC for reasons stated above--the volatility is what provides me with profit, more so than gold, but I have been accumulating gold in small amounts the past several months for the sole purpose of diversifying.
I am too. Let me hug you well.
I think in the future the Gold will climb onto the 9000USD/ounces.
And Bitcoin at last will flying higher much much more.

when it becomes scarce enough, and if demand for it still exists, it could definitely happen. that all depends though, if gold is still treated as a precious substance in the coming years.
398  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China banned ICO's not Bitcoin idiots! on: September 07, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
A friend I introduced to Bitcoin, phoned me today asking why China banned Bitcoin. He quoted a article in his local news paper, who quoted Bloomberg : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-04/china-central-bank-says-initial-coin-offerings-are-illegal

The mainstream media has no f#$%^ clue what the difference between ICO's and Bitcoin is. Anyone can create a fancy webpage and a few PDF's with information on their ICO offering and then sell tokens for it.

Initial coin offering (ICO) is an unregulated means of crowdfunding via the use of cryptocurrency. The term is often confused with 'token sale' or crowdsale, which refers to a method of selling participation in an economy, giving investors access to the features of a particular project starting at a later date.

Please phone your local newspapers and explain the difference to them, because ICO's are not Bitcoin!

People will do anything to sell a few extra news papers or to receive a few extra clicks on their websites, even if they publish total rubbish. They should research a subject before they publish garbage like this.

It just shows you how unreliable information can be that are being published in the media. This might even be done on purpose. ^grrrrrrrr^

I agree with op here, many of the my friends who are new to this crypto world were confused and they panicked when they say the price crash. Though I told them that whenever something like this happens and China is responsible prices shoot up and double up. As for those articles on the net, it's simple they are getting free traffic, plus earning money thanks to the ads posted on their website. It's a shame that people actually fall for such traps and create unnecessary confusion for everyone concerned.
well, it's pretty normal for any stake holder to panic when the value of an asset drops nearly 20% in what was practically overnight. can't really blame your friends.

Well, I phoned them today and I gave them a tongue lashing! They reacted as they usually do, "We just quoted a reputable source" < my ass >  Roll Eyes

I explained the difference between Bitcoin and ICO's but they still ignored the truth. I get the feeling that they are forced to report negatively on Bitcoin matters. ^grrrrrr^

These articles are not being cross referenced or fact checked at all, they just take the mainstream websites opinion at face value and print it.
it's one of two possibilities: they either don't care because they're generating traffic off of dishonest clickbait, or two, your voice doesn't matter to them, and they won't take down the content without someone with more influence calling them out.
399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Congress plans to regulate cryptocurrencies on: September 07, 2017, 06:10:44 AM
'Congress submits bill making it illegal to hold cash, Bitcoin, or other assets outside of a bank without informing them in writing'

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1241/text#toc-idea0e9489fc8f46379f95bb56c8bbbda5

What is your thoughts on this ? Could this happen ?
oh it could definitely happen, the actual problem is how enforceable the law would be. downloading movies and music through p2p means is considered illegal in the states, but its a pretty widely known fact that a large number of people do it anyways (and if you dont, you might actually be living under a very large rock). i dont doubt that a government with enough resources could potentially be able to set up an infrastructure solid enough to track bitcoin network related traffic, but the real matter lies in physically enforcing people to not use bitcoin. this would either mean mass sending of cease and desist letters, eventually culminating to physically sending law enforcement to a location. it's just not economically feasible, and there's too many existing ways to bypass detection.
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What If Bitcoin is banned? on: September 07, 2017, 05:46:20 AM
If bitcoin will be banned I will still continue to use it. That would suck for sure if it happens but I'm sure there will still be a way to cash out my bitcoin. But I'm positive this won't happen unless the government receives tons of complaints regarding bitcoin.
its not about receiving complaints, the government gets complains about everything all the time. there is not a single policy in this world that every constituent will be satisfied with, nor will there ever be. however, if a ban does ever come into place (a ban that's going to be far too ineffective to enforce and maintain, and therefore in this event, people would still be using it anyways, sort of how people still use p2p), i would bet moeny that there would be more than a few wiling individuals that would buy up all the panic seller's bitcoins at a discount from everyone panicking for their last chance to cash out.

I can see Bitcoin getting regulated in some way in the future... It has been attracting too much attention from lawmakers, financial analysts, investors and everyday people. At some point, in each country, big government will step in to exercise control with unless of course, an economic revolution happens.

But banned? No way. If that happens I will be moving to another country. Can't ban Bitcoin on planet Earth  Grin
the revolution is coming, but i dont think it will be bitcoin that takes the future. a massive, nationwide scale adoption wont happen without the government retaining some sort of centralized control over the currency.
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