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3801  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
3802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
and.... yet another one to add to the tsunami wave ....  

Swiss Regulators Give Green Light for Bitcoin ATM Network.

http://www.coindesk.com/swiss-regulators-give-green-light-bitcoin-atm-network/


Does anyone really really honestly at this point not start to see a certain trend  ??  

Seriously?

One by one they add up...

Wonder who/what/where will be next ; )

Only a fool would stand in the way of a tsunami.
3803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 03:27:19 PM
More news from Italy.  This is basically an a nice primer on all that is bitcoin.  It came out on the 20'th of June after the hearings from the House of Representatives in Italy.  It sounds like they will be installing a Robocoin ATM in Rome by the end of June.  One thing I do remember from their hearings is that one of the speakers said that they missed out on the early adoption of the internet, and they don't want to repeat that mistake with bitcoin.  This is a good start I guess.

One thing to note here is that there is yet another event that converges on the 26'th.  It sounds like Robocoin will be making a presentation and there will be discussion on how to regulate their ATM's.


Splendid stuff.  .  .  the tsunami is building,  and at a fair old rate.

Only fools try to stand in the way of a tsunami.



Lets get the italian maffia in bitcoin  Cheesy
Much better than those suitcases of filthy FIAT.

For the moment  -  methinks they would prefer the suitcases of Fiat  -  easy to play games with,  plus they are not fans of change not unless they control it.

Ya, it will be interesting to see how the mafia will influence all of this.

Probably the same way they influenced e-mail adoption.... not a whole lot,  but then I guess maybe some money laundering but they would probably use a different crypto than BTC-  one of the 'darker'  coins,  maybe some fraud and extortion scams,  some general racketeering,  and possible even BTC loan sharks-  or protection  money  "  Where is this months BTC ?  transfer the fukin'  crypto paisan or maybe in the future you don't walk so good capish? y'fukin Jabroni   "  so basically business as usual.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If anything once they get their heads around it they will be no doubt exercising their control and influence over the local politicians to enable them to get away with blue bloody murder,  then in Italy where do the banks, and politicians and police and mafia begin and end  ?  they see to all role into one non?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Ha - I am just foolin'  but yes I guess it will be interesting to see how organized crime comes into play.


EDIT -  actually I am struggling to think of a place anywhere now where the banks, and politicians/government and police and mafia/  organised crime  do not at some point roll into one..  think it is just more obvious in Italy than many other places.
 
3804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
Will not be long until we get some serious action from Argentina in the crypto world no doubt...

https://news.vice.com/article/talons-out-argentina-desperately-fighting-vulture-funds-over-debt?utm_source=vicenewstwitter


3805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 02:52:50 PM
More news from Italy.  This is basically an a nice primer on all that is bitcoin.  It came out on the 20'th of June after the hearings from the House of Representatives in Italy.  It sounds like they will be installing a Robocoin ATM in Rome by the end of June.  One thing I do remember from their hearings is that one of the speakers said that they missed out on the early adoption of the internet, and they don't want to repeat that mistake with bitcoin.  This is a good start I guess.

One thing to note here is that there is yet another event that converges on the 26'th.  It sounds like Robocoin will be making a presentation and there will be discussion on how to regulate their ATM's.


Splendid stuff.  .  .  the tsunami is building,  and at a fair old rate.

Only fools try to stand in the way of a tsunami.



Lets get the italian maffia in bitcoin  Cheesy
Much better than those suitcases of filthy FIAT.

For the moment  -  methinks they would prefer the suitcases of Fiat  -  easy to play games with,  plus they are not fans of change not unless they control it.
3806  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 02:44:44 PM
More news from Italy.  This is basically an a nice primer on all that is bitcoin.  It came out on the 20'th of June after the hearings from the House of Representatives in Italy.  It sounds like they will be installing a Robocoin ATM in Rome by the end of June.  One thing I do remember from their hearings is that one of the speakers said that they missed out on the early adoption of the internet, and they don't want to repeat that mistake with bitcoin.  This is a good start I guess.

One thing to note here is that there is yet another event that converges on the 26'th.  It sounds like Robocoin will be making a presentation and there will be discussion on how to regulate their ATM's.


Splendid stuff.  .  .  the tsunami is building,  and at a fair old rate.

Only fools try to stand in the way of a tsunami.

3807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 01:14:52 PM
ESPN and Bitpay’s  ‘Bitcoin Bowl’  brings Bitcoin into 100 Million Households - nice,  I am loving the exposure that Bitcoin has been getting past few months.  Expedia,  Holiday Inn,  Ebay on the way,  DISH,  several positive comments from various other sources banks politicians etc is all coming along nicely ...   decent amount of announced VC investment capital already this year..   pretty amazing news coming from the British financial regulators with their cryptocurrency initiative -  which states that they would like the UK to become a SUPERHUB for crypto innovation,  and ditto for the rather special Isle of Man,  and ditto for California...  the upcoming exchanges,  ETFs,  evolving ecosystem,  the all but 100% green light tacit agreement from most major countries around the world that BTC is A -  ok and legit,  the huge amount of publicity and exposure it will get as a result of all the new services and vendors that accept it ,  that are going to come on line in next year-  the very fact that it is STILL here and STILL going strong  -  yeah I am really happy with the news in the crypto world.

To some I guess all of this /\  means nothing,  some even seem to barely acknowledge  these facts or their implications,  for some reason...  well that is fine each to their own opinion.

This is playing out as I already totally expected would happen a long time ago...   all of these seeds are just the beginning.....  the beginning of the very first dawn of Crypto,  really I cannot see that the genie is ever ever going back in the bottle at this point.

Crypto's are here to stay imo,  and from this point will only go from strength to strength and at some point will accelerate and reach a critical tipping point.

BTC for now rules the crypto market,  and looks like there is nothing coming close to coming near the BTC network at the moment.

What that all means for BTC price -  I leave to you to decide -  I know where I think it is going and that is all that matters for me.
3808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Why is every downwards market movement perceived to be done artificially by some malicious force?  What if it is simply that there is not enough buying pressure and the buyers aren't capable of supporting the weight of the market?

It's not possible, this is Bitcoin. Everyone in the world want coins. Wink
Supposedly everyone in the world is uberbullish about bitcoin but instead of buying now at market price they are going to wait and try to maybe get slightly more coins or get them at a slightly better price by playing some game which involves them taking risks, possibly committing crimes, and even selling coins at low prices.

They think bitcoin is the lottery win of the century yet they're going to risk the whole operation just to be a little greedy and get a little extra coins with some method that might not even work.


Happens all over the world in so many ways every day, not just in Bitcoin - it is part of human nature- and some might say a trait that is the reason for many of the successes  (and failures)of mankind


3809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 11:42:38 PM


It is amazing what technology can do... think about it....

Yeah, maybe the NSA can do the accounting for us.



Doubt that... but a clever little app/protocol ... could no problemo....
3810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 10:23:29 PM
It is amazing what technology can do... think about it....

In the long run yes, it is a great opportunity for someone to make an app for that.

Meanwhile, in the real world, everyone will ignore the IRS.  This is bad, because it is part of a pervasive and creeping contempt for rule of law.  In the end we all suffer for that.  The fix is to void all the ludicrous, often criminal in themselves, laws.  That would be roughly, let's see, one two three... all of them.




Exactly my thinking

and spot on, and spot on
3811  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I think that is supposed to represent me in the pic (by the way that is NOT me), getting my face smacked by a halibut that is NOT a halibut.   Cheesy

Calling Dr. Cassius!  Dr. Cassius, does the subjects cognitive apprehension of the concept of external representation of self constitute evidence of some vestigial functioning mirror neuron activity, or is this merely a Skinner-box effect?

 

Dr Aminorex. I stooped and my pregenual anterior cingulate cortex informs me that I should not have done. (It always was an overactive little illegitimate child.)
There is no need for you to do the same.



Cassius and Aminorex ...I really like you guys... when this all plays out... drinks are on me ...at a place where there are drinks and sunshine and bikinis : )

edit: fuck it JayJuanGee and Jorge you are invited too!


You will definitely need to include some toys (such as bikinis) in order to keep some of us sufficiently distracted and less inclined to either kill one another or for us (on our own) to make a boring party by our employing some kind of passive aggressive, "silent treatment."

Yet, I would imagine that with the passage of time, and by the time any such gathering were to materialize, the guestlist would inevitably have to expand more than the exponential growth of bitcoin prices since 2009.




Bro... when we get there... and we are partying.. you are gonna have to chill out !! ; )  party is a party : ) 
3812  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
I think that is supposed to represent me in the pic (by the way that is NOT me), getting my face smacked by a halibut that is NOT a halibut.   Cheesy

Calling Dr. Cassius!  Dr. Cassius, does the subjects cognitive apprehension of the concept of external representation of self constitute evidence of some vestigial functioning mirror neuron activity, or is this merely a Skinner-box effect?

 

Dr Aminorex. I stooped and my pregenual anterior cingulate cortex informs me that I should not have done. (It always was an overactive little illegitimate child.)
There is no need for you to do the same.



Cassius and Aminorex ...I really like you guys... when this all plays out... drinks are on me ...at a place where there are drinks and sunshine and bikinis : )

edit: fuck it JayJuanGee and Jorge you are invited too!

  Cool I will look forward to it.

Grand : ) I look forward to it too! : ) it is a date...

and all the rest of you "good guys" too!



and YES this is what I have in mind : )
3813  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
Just replace what you use. Cool

I know you are right but I just can't bring myself to spend any right now.


ONE of my obstacles in spending is the potential accounting problem to have to keep track... since it is supposed to be treated as property.

My solution is either to replace as I spend, and therefore say I did NOT claim it as profit b/c I replaced what I had spent... or I can spend it overseas (outside of the USA), which would cause me NOT to have to claim a profit.

Also, I am disinclined to sell now, anyway b/c at this point my portfolio remains in the red with a $613 average BTC price.

The accounting...how can the dominators possibly expect people to do that? Do you see people at large keeping tabs on everything they spend and earn. Private double book-keeping? Assuming bitcoins further progress, not possible.

Just say no.



It is amazing what technology can do... think about it....
3814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 09:36:33 PM
I think that is supposed to represent me in the pic (by the way that is NOT me), getting my face smacked by a halibut that is NOT a halibut.   Cheesy

Calling Dr. Cassius!  Dr. Cassius, does the subjects cognitive apprehension of the concept of external representation of self constitute evidence of some vestigial functioning mirror neuron activity, or is this merely a Skinner-box effect?

 

Dr Aminorex. I stooped and my pregenual anterior cingulate cortex informs me that I should not have done. (It always was an overactive little illegitimate child.)
There is no need for you to do the same.



Cassius and Aminorex ...I really like you guys... when this all plays out... drinks are on me ...at a place where there are drinks and sunshine and bikinis : )

edit: fuck it JayJuanGee and Jorge you are invited too!
3815  Economy / Speculation / Re: RE : Wall Observer on: June 20, 2014, 03:22:31 PM
The longer I persist in my negative view, the greater will be your fun when I will be finally proved wrong.  Wink


What would take to "finally prove you wrong"? Certain price level over time? Legal skeleton in one of major countries behind BTC? Large company accepting it (like Ebay etc.) ? Really, i'm wondering, what would it take?

 He already explained a hundred times (barely exaggerated at this point) what precisely it would take to conform w/ his definition of 'ok I'm sorry guys you were right in the end - I have to admit bitcoin is now finally successful' ~>

1] Widespread, government-sanctioned (or even promoted) adoption by the public in at least several countries.

2] ^ Due to actual, tangible, John-Q-Public-relevant benefits of using a blockchain-based currency that are OVER and beyond the economical, security, privacy, speed and convenience of use benefits afforded by traditional payment systems & infrastructure..

3] ^ To such an extent that above-referenced general mainstream public now has a NO-BRAINER choice in naturally & easily using a cryptocurrency as payment system.


Is it really that hard to see the writing on the wall though ? really ?
3816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Hardly ever (maybe not ever?) seen someone here proudly proclaim they ignored someone because he was being bullish all the time, or for being a bull troll.

Point is, so many times it's not a crap filter, it's an opinion filter. You blend out what you dislike until all that remains is an echo chamber, a perverse distortion of an already biased place.

People are free to do so, but they should realize that in the long run, they will only hurt themselves because exposure to contrary positions are important for one's emotional, intellectual and financial health.

I have hardly anyone on ignore except for a few who write walls of text meaning nothing, where I regret having wasted my time reading it. I prefer reality unadulterated.

Sometimes it is not just "crap" or "opinions" that are the problem, it is just when it is the same crap over and over and over again... that is the problem...


edit: Quote  " He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change; this man's beliefs never will"   - "The great" Stephen Colbert

and I try not to be one of those people myself, and I must admit I think I actually like Jorge, I like his style and I like some of his interesting posts... and I even think I would enjoy talking to the guy one on one.... but really I have no time for someone that cannot/will not change his position one single bit, regardless of what he "learns" I just cannot trust him, or take him seriously... I will no doubt take him off ignore now and then, but when I see the constant "like a dog with a bone" comments.. it just irks me.  

I am all up for differing views - I agree on the echo chamber comment.  


 
3817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 20, 2014, 01:52:03 PM
Hi everyone......many thanks : ) thank you for taking the time to reply.

I am reading through the thread now (thanks shrooms) and I should have had a better look on the nxtforum yesterday, my bad, as I say I am trying to get back up to speed atm and was pretty busy yesterday.

Extra nodes are needed - I remember CfB saying this sometime ago....  I will get on that as soon as I have a mo.

thanks Daedelus I put Come from blah blah blah, on ignore yesterday - which is where he will stay.

Cassius - James was saying this (about the price falling back) if I remember correctly due to thinkng that some of the original stakeholders selling out some of their Nxt? is this still on the cards do people think?

oh and

Hmmmm beer : )

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood. Ralph Waldo Emerson  Self Reliance (1841).

3818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 20, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
wow...  I asked a question as I heard that there was DDOS - and to add more nodes- I was asking what people thought... and surprised that no one replied... please everybody stop jumping to conclusions. I bought in pretty bloody big in Dec, and I have been only keeping a very light watch over the goings on since March... not just with Nxt, but all Cryptos,  I needed a break from mainly this forum/Nxt forum for many reasons not least because I am very busy working on some projects,  so I am now trying to dip my toe back in and get really back up to speed- was curious about the DDOS and looking to add some extra nodes , and was loooking for some feedback/infos/thoughts. Quite simple really and kinda what I thought these forums are all about.

Thanks Shrooms, I am not pissed off, just a bit surprised that the only reply was from a troll joker who gave nothing but brain numbing pointless jibberish, I will have a read - as I also long term lurk the nxtforums,  thanks.

Thanks devphp.
3819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 20, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
So.... I ask about the DDOS attacks yesterday (TWICE AT THAT)  and the only person that replies is a troll?  wt? something I said ? or is my face not familiar enough here? is it a clique ?  I have been a long term hodlr (since December) and lurker...  

It was a genuine question

thanks
3820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2014, 12:41:29 PM
For example, I am currently pessimistic about the chances of the price ever getting much higher than now


that's new.

Yawn- putting this Jorge joker back on ignore

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