I have a couple of ideas for the coin that I think will make it a very strong coin. I did not share them on the Skype session. I do not want to share them if they are not going to be acted on, because I will take them to a different coin in that case.
So, let me ask, how strong are you as a developer? The distinctions could be, for example, you can use a text editor, change some constants, and build a new coin, or you have read the entire source and understand some of it, to you are an expert cryptanalyst, have a lot of network experience, and can change any aspect of the source and create a coin with distinctly different behaviors or novel user interface behavior.
I'd consider myself competent, I have lots of networking experience and my full time job revolves around networking. I also do a some scripting with that job, mainly in PERL, I have fundamental knowledge of C++ and have taken college courses in C++, and Visual Basic. I will never consider myself an expert at any of it as I feel I am always learning something new. I have read through the source code and I am able to understand most of it and am still working on understanding the rest of it. But what I lack in experience and knowledge I make up for in being able to find the solutions and learn what I need to get the job done. I already have some code written for if we wanted to change from halving the block reward to quartering the reward at a faster pace than the current halving (We are still working behind the scenes to determine if and when we will implement), which I haven't seen in any other code that I've looked at. It's fairly simple but definitely not a copy/paste job. I have always been fairly strong in Mathematics which helps out a lot with that part of the code as well. If you have ideas, you can definitely share them with me in PM and I will take them into consideration, if we decide not to use them I would let you know and keep the communication confidential if that is what you want. If the idea is good enough and something we can implement I am more than willing to look at it. I'm also not going to steal ideas without giving credit. I continue to think that changing the block rewards or halving time, those fundamental constants of the coin, are a bad idea. If you think that the values are not workable, I think you must start with a new genesis block. My analysis of the situation is that the coin should be used for commerce, as currency, and not as a speculation tool. The pump n dump crowd is pushing very strongly to make it as speculation, and that is not a long term interest.
My basic idea to improve the coin is to manage the coin volatility. One way to do this is to introduce an element of the economy that can only be done with bitcoin. Take a food store on Pine Ridge, as an example. This store could have a web page for items that it sells at a discount. The page could let people checkmark the items that they want to buy, and they could use their IIM accounts to purchase bitcoins as a coupon. These bitcoins then can be used to purchase the goods when they go to the store. If the price rises, the individual can sell the bitcoins and buy their groceries with the cash proceeds. If the price of bitcoins falls, the individuals can still purchase their groceries, and the store has already been paid at the original price, so everyone gets what they paid for.
The store gets even more than they do with coupons. They get marketing information, and pre-payment.
This requires that individual addresses be assigned. One address is the source for coupons for, say, meat, another address is the source for coupons for milk. A person paying from an address that was funded by the coupon gets the discount.
This is novel, and doing it with MZA would distinguish the coin from not only alt-coins, but also bitcoin. It would make the MZA valuable as a currency. Also, since they are purchase coupons, the store could sell them at 1 MZA/USD if they wanted to, and that would tend to stabilize the price at that same value.
I am not so sure on the to fork or not to fork.... I agree if it can be helped then no need... however if it is the best thing longterm and is done properly then maybe I do like the idea of the Tribe getting a share of the reward- makes sense. The idea you have Prof for dealing with the volatility and potential "peg" of the price - and to establish the currency in the community is very interesting... not quite sure if the "peg" could work via the method you mention , but it is certainly worth looking at.. guessin' they do not call you prof for nothing. |
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when is the revival coming?  Not sure yet, but it'll come soon enough! WHEN AP RETIRES FROM MZC There only delaying the inevitable, AP has no focus on MZC, only his next projects that he has lined up, he blames the community for ruining his reputation when he brought it on himself by "making" MZC, then Maplecoin & Irishcoin....which claimed he is 50% Irish. FAIL....Look out for IraqCoin cuz he'll then claim he's 33% from there too. Also the threaten to sell the MZC project to a different tribe cuz Payu asked him to leave it....and his response to Payu was fuck off you RETARD, I own this coin and nobody else. So I say sooner the better he's gone. Check out this image. Does that look real to you?? Looks like photoshop to me. I'm not convinced that this beer was ever sold for Irishcoin. How hard would it of been to take a video with a phone and put it on youtube, and talk to the patron that just bought beer for Irishcoin supposedly? This was retweeted from the Mazacoin twitter, makes them both look like a scam. hmm I am drunk now.. but on first glance.... the shadow of the glasss on the wall, looks real enough on first glance... and also under the hand , the reflection of the hand on the bar looks real enough... the shading above the left arm in red, looks odds though as does the colour of the bar and background inbetween the guys arms... although I must admit ... I am not quite wide awake right now (been out- am not sober) but I do know a man or two , who knows his stuff in this field... I shall ask him to take a look. |
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ok.... so it seems it is as I thought- the ''Skype'' forking group are not actually working with Payu then... or at least the hardfork is not agreed with - this is some kinda takeover .... has one of these ever worked? from what I can see the group has also been blagging - making promises they are in no position to make happen... AP seems to really not give a fuck- I can see why people are against him- but I had a feeling that unless Payu is really on board with a fork - it will not happen.. Payu is the connection to the Lakota..
forking hell!
there are several millions Mazacoins with a decision to make and soon...
because this is now taking the piss- out of the concept, the goal, the Lakota, the investors...well just about everyone..
Actions- with clarity, honour, openness, a goal, and with a sense of urgency are what is needed....
and it is needed now.
Payu- take control of this!!!!
The Skype group had been talking to Payu and I think he's been torn. He has never decided 100% to fork the coin away from AP, and I think AP and I have come up with some plans to help make some changes to the coin without changing the overall economics of the coin, it will just extend coin creation out over extra years, changing the total coin count and drastically changing the block reward would only scream scam and the dev team would lose any trust it has left that it can maintain consistency in the coin design. I do like the idea of doing a percentage of each block to the tribal trust, but have to make sure we do it in a way that we can keep trust of the miners and investors in the coin, we also still have to have discussions about this topic. Fair do's.... some consistency would be good.... although if the coin design is flawed... then there would be nothing wrong with fixing it... what is the point in having a technology that has the ability to adapt if the ability is not used when neededI think it is fair to say that thus far the coin has not done what was expected , for various reasons... this must be the case, unless the coin was designed to crash as it has done? if AP/Payu/yourself have a sound logic and plan that you can explain, in words and figures to everyone, that bares out the original design laid out in the white paper, and you can show with numbers and projections and logic that there is a mathematical base that this can grow on... then thats great.. please share? If not and it can be accepted that the coin could be improved... then maybe that would be the right choice? A fork does not necessarily have to equal scam. As I said there is little point in having a coin that has the function to be changed, to adapt, to fix itself, to fork... if it is not used IF and WHEN it becomes needed. Eitherway , fork or no fork, the added communication is something.. though it would help if the added communication were to have some coherence .. right now it seems like different groups pulling in different directions... I really hope that the communication continues, though it would be nice to have it mirrored in the offical twitter page/website. The sad thing is that open communication, from the get go , with investors and with this forum could have saved so much hassle. We are all waiting to hear about official developments from the tribe in their stance to this coin.. that along with consistent action and communication along with a hard look at if the coin desgin is fit for intended purpose - are what is needed with this coin... also to leverage the community ... those that have not already had enough and sold up and quit. Really - the great logo that was desgined , should we not revisit this now and get it used? for just one example of using the community as a resource? (devs,designers,PR people, tech support etc) As for official news regarding the tribe adopting the coin- is this not a horse before the cart situation ? what is the incentive to adopt a crypto that is so unstable and worth so very little? however the official stamp would make a HUGE difference to this coin... also why are people not kept more informed about these developments? should there not be a consistent push to make this happen? and if there is then why do we not know about it? it is no good to just dangle a carrot... even the donkey gets wise in the end. Does the current dev team have the skill set? the community, the resources , the support, the drive and the vision to execute this project? good intentions are not enough.. and frankly the communication and maybe the execution of the project thus far has bordered on total disrespect for the entire project and the community and the Lakota... and the KEY thing that could have alleviated most of this, would have been keeping people in the loop, proper communication about the challenges and problems the coin faces. This coin has incredible potential and a true cause... like I said Payu & co please do continue to engage the community... be open, be realistic,make a hard plan with set goals and a endgame, take actions, make them count... leverage the community, we can help , keep us in the loop. |
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ok.... so it seems it is as I thought- the ''Skype'' forking group are not actually working with Payu then... or at least the hardfork is not agreed with - this is some kinda takeover .... has one of these ever worked? from what I can see the group has also been blagging - making promises they are in no position to make happen... AP seems to really not give a fuck- I can see why people are against him- but I had a feeling that unless Payu is really on board with a fork - it will not happen.. Payu is the connection to the Lakota..
forking hell!
there are several millions Mazacoins with a decision to make and soon...
because this is now taking the piss- out of the concept, the goal, the Lakota, the investors...well just about everyone..
Actions- with clarity, honour, openness, a goal, and with a sense of urgency are what is needed....
and it is needed now.
Payu- take control of this!!!!
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thanks for the infos...
So.. howcome there is now discussion about these changes on the twitter page? are you able to post to the twitter account?
is AP still onboard? and if so what are his intentions now?
Is Payu in control of this or not?
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This is fucking pathetic bullshit that all of our news for mazacoin has to come from some guy on a bitcointalk forum that says he has Payu on skype. It's so unprofessional and as of now I have lost respect for anyone on the mazacoin development team. They have done such a lousy job at keeping people informed and keeping active with the community, it's actually insulting to mazacoin enthusiasts. To be in the know, we have to join some esoteric group hidden in skype chats?We shouldn't have to. Are you that fucking lazy you cant post in here or at least cut and paste key points. This is the epitome on unprofessionalism. I'm so fed up with this shit.
I have just taken over some of the development roles within the last 48 hours. I am going to do more to keep the community informed and am going to be working with the community as much as I can. I am not going to do information solely via skype as I do not like skype. I will be updating here, the current official Mazacoin forum at http://cryptominers.freeforums.org/index.php and will be in the IRC channel #Mazacoin on freenode. There is a lot of work to do to regain trust, Payu has still been working with the Lakota on the ground and from what I've heard from him it sounds positive. And like I've told Payu, the Lakota need to look at what Mazacoin can do for them locally and not worry about the exchange price. With the use of the coin on the reservation and when merchants can start accepting the coin the market prices will follow and the value of Maza will increase.
I did hear that some of the Lakota are trading MZC for $.01 on the reserve
BS - if you didn't make this up then whoever you heard it from did and is just desperately trying to unload their bag of MZC. They are trading for 1/50th of $0.01 and even then there is virtually no buy support. MZC is worthless and will never be accepted by the Lakota. The dev team has been a joke from the start. If the Lakota were going to accept a cryptocurrency, why would they choose one where thousands of bagholding non-Lakota morons control the vast majority of the coin supply? Why not create their own or hire somebody honest to create one for them? It doesn't even make sense and it honestly never did. It was a scam from the start (all of these "country" coins/etc were but this one was easily the worst) and the sooner you accept it and move on the better off you'll be. You will never unload this crap. Take what you can get, cut your losses, and let this thing die. It's shameful to crypto in general and makes us all look like idiots by association. Like I said, I'm not sure what volume they are trading at that price and it may be sub 100 MZC, but it at least shows that there is some interest on the reserve and if we can get there merchants accepting it things will be better. The launch of this coin was not a Scam, it did have the backing of some of the Lakota tribe, unfortunately there are a lot of different dynamics with tribal government that even I don't understand, and the part of the Tribal government that works with the US Government and gets grants from the US is the ones that have come out against Mazacoin (again, this is coming from what I have heard via Payu and what he has stated in the IRC channel and other places in the past). If Mazacoin was launched as a scam then Payu would have walked away from the project after it reached 10k Satoshi and we never would have heard from him again. Me, I'm not focusing on the Market price of Mazacoin, I want the coin to be working well for transactions so that merchants can accept the coin and have a POS type system and android wallet for transactions, and we are working towards that end. We also will have some more news about code development coming out later, and I'll be sure to keep you all informed. Looking forward to your continuing updates... |
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Well if is somebody too eager for news than : AnonymousPirate official kick
Really? really? official? does he know yet? Please tell me that this is going to get serious now... |
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Forking hell.....
Major reworks of the maths i.e major reworks of the reward/coin cap
Major reworks of the dev team
Major reworks of the PR/comms
SOME ACTUAL NEWS FROM THE TRIBE RE ADOPTION
and then this coin will have some life.... tbh just sorting out the things that have already been promised/supposed to have happened....
what is happening with AP ?
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looking forward to it....
when you say soon.........
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so in other words.........
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So a group of users are forking away from mazacoin proper? I don't know how that will work, and I would expect Payu to announce any new dev team not associated with AP, not some random "bagholder" who has complained in the past about losing money on Maza and is only looking to get the price up so he can dump his bag and get his BTC back.
In my opinion, this would be a good time to get out until some coherent plan is devised and announced. This coin could possibly make a comeback, but with a client that won't sync, a missing block explorer, a dev team apparently in chaos, and a block reward the size of the Atlantic, I suggest maintaining a view from the sidelines. This should be considered a pump attempt until there is a statement from the development team. yup! all sounds like BS right now |
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its is that time of year again
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writing on skype take 1/4 than on there
Never heard of copy+paste ? THIS yeah it seems that the first rule of Mazacoin... is you do not talk about mazacoin.... (or post on bitcointalk, no anywhere but it seems... yawn) |
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meh- fair enough then : )
not a skype fan...
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as I said several times if you want news before release join my bagholders group at skype : arthur7762
any reason you cannot share your info on here? |
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Well most of things is gonna be changed ... we are working on developers team for maza, we will fork mazacoin and stabilize price finally
Not sure If I'm reading this right but... how do you think this fork "will stabilize price" ? I read before that some plan on reducing the coins and altering the distribution model. It sounds more like what the fed is doing not what the free market dictates. Rather than forking and spooning the coin , why not actively getting involved and promote the coin... or if that is not possible with Payu still in charge ... scalp him! The main MZC problem is that itīs extremly mined out ( you canīt keep price high when miners always sell more you have) .... When you reduce supply / miners reward than we will stay higher without this problem Aren't you making bagholders richer with this move? The people who have 2% of the coins will have 4% of the coins ? Not a good sign for newcomers. So you're telling me that people who bought/mined and held this entire time while all the FUD was being spread, we're gonna double our holdings? Sweet! I feel bad for those who sold out. As they say, that's the way she goes. Well you are talking bullshit guys .... Big news coming at Sunday - MZC plan and others so wait for it.. Is this going to be another of those failed hostile takeover/relaunch events? what makes you so sure that the coin is going to be forked? and why no mention on the twit page? which part of the community is going to back this? what makes you think that Payu/AP are going to go with this ? If you have actual infos - then please do share ? |
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I wonder if the only fork will be in an eyeball
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.... is there any official word of a fork? methinks it would be wise to reserve excitement till there is... or there is......not
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