While I do think a ton of the claims you make here are insane, and I know a ton of others on this forum would be bound to agree with me-- I'll say at least that the video that you linked is pretty good, hoping for everyone to come out and watch this series as it does help to explain how shitty the fed has gone to fuck the people, and how much control they really have over day to day lives.

Insane to think about, tough to watch, the best thing to see out of a video.

As I've said with a lot of Bitcoin posts surrounding this issue, I feel that it proves too much of a hassle to be able to do something like this. Like just take Bitcoin for example, if we gave people Bitcoin as a universal welfare system or something along those lines people aren't going to be able to get the real fiat currency out of it to be able to use it in everyday life, this would follow the same sort of thing for a random shitcoin someone makes.

People would rather have FIAT currency as it can be used everywhere, plus the poor aren't going to be able to have a computer / smartphone to access this digital currency anyway so what's the point of even making this? If the people it's going to help are going to be the ones that can't use it, why?

Hate to post on such a large thread but the thing here is that a lot of the 'fact checking' is usually just saying that the person was just a little wrong on what they said and then they'll use the pants on fire thing, if these people weren't puppets of the DNC you'd see that Clinton would also be in the 80 percent area, maybe even 90 percent for the amount of shit that she says that is completely false.

Take the senate hearing that she had to go through, she lied like a rug there and should've been hung for it-- she wasn't and no one cares about when the Clinton's do stuff that is wrong.


I like Trump, and I'll agree with you on the latter.

See it's always nice to support diversity in the market and all that, giving some work to the little guy makes some people feel special. But when it comes down to it, the people with the better product (in this case Qualcomm) is going to be the person that gets all the work from people that are strictly business.

I highly doubt mediatek and qualcomm can even come out and compare against eachother due to the amount of sales qualcomm has compared to mediatek.

You could go ahead and watch this video which explains everything, and even shows the clear winner - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4omK5f4WU0

This is something that you'd expect for him to do, though it's just not going to happen. It doesn't make sense for him to do this, why would he relinquish his power to someone else while he can simply milk it until his term ends? It may sound shitty, and it completetly is, but he should milk what he can and then bow out when he's forced to -- given his health allows him to do this without any sort of issue stooping him from making decisions.


But I will say this, even if I was never a fan of McCain I do hope him a speedy recovery.

Smartphones are here to stay, they're not just going to leave as more and more people find out that the companies are practically spying on them all the time. It's never stopped people as people are going to be valuing convenience and efficiency over encryption of their data and privacy. Certain people may defy this but it's not going to be something that the majority is going to come out and defy.


This is also present, even the baby boomer generation is latching on and using smartphone now while throwing away their dumb phones. There's no demand for the old phones / burner phones and even if their is a market for them, it's something that is insanely small.

RIP Dumb Phones.

I don't know how people like you can simply think that Bitcoin will just follow this insane incline up and up, I just can't see it happening in the least.

Anyway. When you go to Bitcoins wiki page, you can see that they don't really even have 2009 listed anywhere to be looking for information, it's in the 'pre-history' area which would probably mean that only a couple hundred people knew about Bitcoin and were involved in it.

Not too many people involved, made a select few a ton of money -- sounds like a penny stock that caught FIRE.

I wouldn't try to put a time scale on learning something like this, as that's going to change from person to person depending on how fast they learn new things. I'm just going to be putting this into perspective for a second, I'm not new to the Bitcoin community and have been here for a long time -- even someone like me really doesn't understand everything that comes in regard to Bitcoin, I am really not even one to understand the consenus things that much.

I'd think trying to learn about Bitcoin is tough, but there is a lot of materials that could help -- comparing this to the learning of a random ICO I would say the ICO is bound to be harder as you're going in blind on the currency itself.

So, yet again with all of this it's bound on the person and how much time they put into learning.

I don't even know why you'd say any of these services are free and fair, because they're simply being exploited to get people to join in on a pump (thinking they're going to be the ones making money) while you have some big whale that has been slowly buying up the coins, and then boom this dude sells when the price goes sky high and everyone in your group loses money.

I think you should be banned as you're going to be grabbing all of the new people and making them feel as if this is a good way to make money, while it isn't.

Some people are going to have to lose money in a pump and dump, I wouldn't want to be one of those people and I hope the people here are smart enough to not want to be that person either.

I could only see this as a ploy by someone who paid a good amount of money to business insider to be able to get more and more people interested in bitcoin which in turn gets more people to buy it in hopes that they're going to be getting rich quick from it. I'm not going to come out and say that I think the publicity doesn't help as it sure as hell does do a lot for Bitcoin to get the word out.

I just don't feel as if this is the right comparison to be making to the people, as these are two things that shouldn't really be compared. Gold being more of a commodity while Bitcoin is a CURRENCY which can be exchanged all the time without the issue that gold presents.

Feel this has mal-intentions.

This isn't something new the Kraken interface is bound to always have some sort of issue with it. The best course of action is probably going to be contacting them through their support or go ahead and try to clear the cookies from your computer? May or may not work on that one.

Could you also put a screenshot of this up so we're able to see EXACTLY what this error is?

Two newbies coming here and trying to promote some random EXE file to download onto your computer? Oh that seems a bit fishy, or maybe a lot fishy. This is obviously going to be something to be used to steal your bitcoins, so I even went ahead and ran it through virus total so everyone could see what these people are trying to peddle here.

And yes, sure enough it is a virus. I would hope most people could see that based on how scummy the site is, but I wanted to confirm for everyone here

I'll provide the link once it's done, as it's running through 60 sites right now. EDIT - HERE (https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/230abe6e602edee40b0613c568848c907b662dd588f96e59550598a923735c46/analysis/1500062875/)

Well if it's being put into the code itself, I'd be expecting for them to be able to find out the mixing things much eaiser now. I wouldn't see any other reason for someone that has a vested interested in Blockchain Analysis (Garzik) which favors Financial Institutions / Law Enfrorcement community to be getting involved in the code works of trying to change bitcoin UNLESS he feels that he can help himself and his company get more and more work.

Even if you buy BTC now, just know that you SHOULD still be mixing coins to ensure the highest level of anonymity.

This whole western intervention things is one of the tough ones to try to fight on, lets think about that for a second. The US went in to dismantle a regime that they tought had Weapons of Mass Destruction (Saddam Hussein) even if this is a bit flaky on the evidence part, some people swear to them fully thinking at the time that this was true. So even if the West didn't involve themselves, some other nation around them may have stepped in to stop this

Lets go further with this, lets say no other nation came in. I feel as if all of the harsh putting down of dissidence would lead to at some point there being a revolution in these countries that would cause the same sort of hate which is present today - may not against the western nations like it's concentrated right now but the hate would still be there and running.

International Terrorism is always going to be causing a problem, we just have to limit it.

You'd have to be really dumb to think this way about things like this. Countries are bound to be run by some sort of cabal / secret organization it and it really doesn't matter what they're called it still all goes back to the same thing of them being run by a secret organization.

When all of the people from VW got in trouble it's cause they were bound to take the fall, they got caught doing very snaky shit and deserved to be hit with what they had to (prison and fees I suppose?)

So it's not the illuminati vs germany, germany (like most other world powers) are the illuminati or at least controlled by one.

Before I even go into what it is, I'd say to just avoid them entirely unless you have some sort of Cryto based account on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram (depending on campaign) that has a ton of followers. And even when you have something like this, these social media campaigns don't even pay well for you to be abusing your followers to be spamming about most of the shitty services on here.


You're just going to slowly ruin the account on the platform you're using unless you pick wisely on what to advertise for, and if you took time to build up this account to where it is now I'd think about if you even want to do this or just seek something more professional. (as these aren't professional in the least)

Yeah dude this money is really chump change when it comes down to it, think about how little money this is to a company who probably earns that in fees in  about 10 mins. Plus the only time people are going to join in on something like this is if they've also lost money, and this is probably just an issue due to the insane amount of volume at the moment-- it's not something that Poloniex is known for doing in the least as they're a reputable company in the crypto world.

Plus, like others here have mentioned I'd hope that you actually think this through as sitting down with a lawyer and drafting all of this up is going to cost more then what you lost, so I'd just try to get in contact with them. They'll answer as companies like that aren't too keen on putting their reputations on the line with small change like this (change to them)

Just prove that the money was yours and your solid.

Or it would be the time where these countries level each others populations and the countries aren't faced with the problem of overcrowing. May sound like a bad and weird way to be looking at it, but still a way to be looking at it in  the least.


This as there's no reason for people to engage in a war these days as they're just going  to end up losing tons of money. I feel as if we've hit the point in regard to industry and Tech where you won't even gain much by winning a war, you're just going to lose tons of men and women, guns, ammo, trucks, etc and it's just going to end up being a lose for both parties as no one wins any land these days.

So no, the United Nations is going to stop them if it gets to the point of a war coming near. Globalism has pushed for the times of war being avoided on the basis of people wanting to have stability everywhere.

The man China couldn't erase, that's the big thing behind this guy and I do hope that he rests easy. It takes a real man to go against power and government and to fight for what he, and others think is right. In the face of a communist regime he fought for Democracy. Even while failing it gives way for more people to try to move forward with this, as we all know the communist party of China is going to be fighting for their own greed and themselves.

Rest in Peace, I hope others follow in the hard and lengthy fight for Democracy. I hope people feel as if he gives us hope, and us all hope towards Democracy.

Well this is always going to be true of news, you're going to have to know how to work with all of the sources and evidence given to be able to work together what the unbiased news is (even if that isn't really real in the end-game)


News may do this? All news companies are funded to play a certain way on issues, it's bound to happen. People just have to understand this so they're not caught up in  the lies and the bullshit.

But moving back onto the subject, who knows if they were the ones to be lying though I feel there has to be some corruption when you're getting rid of drug cartels through the means of full on violence.