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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump owns the Republican party on: March 09, 2021, 03:04:20 AM
As we get closer and closer to CPAC it seems that Trump will just exert his influence on the GOP instead of making his own party. Though just the threat of him making his own party scares the hell out of Republicans b/c he still commands the support approx 60% of the party.

While Republicans in Washington may be scared of McConnell and his senate influence, individual GOP voters really will go with whatever Trump says on the matter so I highly doubt Trump will lose his grip now.

The ultimate test of if he was going to maintain his control was the Capitol siege, and he was still able to control the Republicans through that so there’s no reason to say he cant continue onwards from here.

Can’t wait to see what this guy says at CPAC. Probably just going to be what he’s wanted to say on Twitter for weeks now.

So the CPAC went as you would expect, Trump in full authoritarian mode calling out his enemies (Repulicans who voted for impeachment) by name and telling his supporters to go after them in the primaries.

But this is something new:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-sent-cease-desist-letters-gop-campaign-committees-n1259824

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Attorneys for former President Donald Trump sent cease-and-desist letters Friday to three Republican organizations asking them to stop using the former president's name and likeness in fundraising appeals and merchandise, a Trump adviser said Saturday.

The letters were sent to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee and the National Republican Senate Committee — arms of the party tasked with raising money and shaping messaging, among other things, for the midterm elections and beyond.

RNC finally decided to grow a spine and stand up to the reality TV superstar:

https://news.yahoo.com/rnc-maintains-trumps-name-fundraising-235125299.html

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The Republican National Committee is defending its right to use former President Donald Trump's name in fundraising appeals after he demanded they put an end to the practice.

In a Monday letter to Trump attorney Alex Cannon, RNC chief counsel J. Justin Riemer said the committee “has every right to refer to public figures as it engages in core, First Amendment-protected political speech" and said "it will continue to do so in pursuit of these common goals.”

Nah I'm just kidding. They'll just funnel more money to his properties to appease him:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/542206-rnc-to-hold-part-of-donor-retreat-at-mar-a-lago

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The Republican National Committee (RNC) will hold part of its spring donors retreat next month at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club.

Trump seems to be determined to take over as much of the GOP fundraising as he can, which I think is his main goal over the next 4 years, and I don't think he cares much about the actual election results. If anything, having Democrats in power probably works better for that purpose.

Trump actually put out another statement today telling supporters of the GOP to donate money directly to him, instead of donating to the party / committees within the party. Here is that:

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1369110810690285576?s=10

Donald Trump is going to try as hard as possible to maintain his grip on the party, and up to now he has succeeded in doing that. People in the party still love him, and any issues that Mitch and co were showing they’ve had to relax on b/c the voters were giving them hell for it.

Crazy shit man. Curious to see what midterms look like with all of the GOP retirements (5 GOP in the Senate)
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine. on: March 09, 2021, 03:01:43 AM
There so many pages here but if you're still keeping track of this, in March for the past 5 years 8000-12000 people die a week. A high number of them are likely old people so many people may have had the vaccine and subsequently died of something unrelated (because that's what happens when you give a vaccine to someone with a 1 in 3 chance of dying per year they're alive - in their 90s).

@badecker, as someone who's had covid, that can also fuck up a lot of shit. How do we know the vaccine isn't safer than the virus with infection likely being inevitable for most people? Both the virus and the vaccine infect everyone with a very similar thing, the difference is one doesn't multiply rapidly (or at all).

Wsup Jack, nice to have you around here again.

You’re totally right as you’re using critical thinking as the way to get to your solution. The regular infection has a very high chance of killing someone who is older (I’ll say 65+) while the vaccine has not killed anyone after usage of it.

Sometimes it sadly just isn’t worth trying to explain to some people. The ignore button is very helpful and used liberally on P&S

3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fate of $15 per hour lies in the hands of the Senate Parliamentary on: March 06, 2021, 09:18:24 PM
Update on the minimum wage - 15 bucks an hour thing is not going to happen. Congrats to small businesses in the US. You can thank a few brave democrats for that: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-manchin-slows-covid-19-stimulus-bill-passage-over-unemployment-benefits-1574187
The unemployment stipend will also be 300 dollars per week oppose to the 400 per week Biden promised. So it seems a few moderate votes in the senate are what will force some compromise. Joe Manchin seems to be getting a lot of hate for watering down the relief bill.
From the looks of it, $15 minimum wage is simply not happening, at least a government-mandated $15 minimum wage (a market-based $15 minimum wage is already in effect for many labor markets).

I also believe that Pelosi is much better at whipping votes than Schemer is. Part of this is due to the fact that there are very few "safe" senate seats for either party, and part of this is the 6-year terms Senators have -- leadership today may be different from leadership in 6 years, which makes it more difficult to bully Senators, even if they will be facing a primary in the coming election season.

Yup.

Pelosi is good at it because leadership in the house is much more powerful then leadership in the Senate. That’s by design of each houses of congress, not much is left to the individual themselves. In the Senate you’re looking at a 6 yr term, which insulates you from a lot of political damage from the party (as the house is 2 yr terms). Further - Someone like Joe Manchin can really just do whatever he wants as he is a DEMOCRAT in a reliably RED state that has no reason being in the Democrat caucus.

I know Bernie was trying some plan to penalize big businesses for not paying $15 per hour and leaving small businesses out of it but it’s not something that came to fruition anyway. Curious to see polling on progressives for this covid bill compared to other groups.
4  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #SuperStraight on: March 06, 2021, 09:13:53 PM
So how does it work, do you ask for a birth certificate before engaging into any kind of coupling?

Precisely. You actually make them sign a legally binding agreement before any sort of sexual contact. Template has actually been attached to this post for your convenience.

Not sure why anyone spends any time getting all worked up about new identities and such. I’ll do me over here and you can do you over there.

5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: JoeBiden just bombed Syria on: March 04, 2021, 05:13:35 AM
It's hard to remember all the strikes that Trump did but I doubt he did one this early.
Trump did exactly one strike, and that was in response to a gas attack in April 2017. Trump also ordered a drone strike to kill an Iranian general.

To be fair to Biden, Iranian forces (and proxy forces) have been attacking US troops and assets recently.

I'm assuming you mean largely public strikes? Not just a drone strike or something along those lines in general -- as the media reports that Donald Trumps drone strikes far exceeds Obama numbers https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

Still not sure what the fuck we're doing in all these other countries when our own people are suffering. But nothing changed under Trump and he was the one pushing that line of thought for a little while.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: JoeBiden just bombed Syria on: February 26, 2021, 11:19:55 PM
Seems a bit aggressive when Biden isn't too deep into his Presidency. It's hard to remember all the strikes that Trump did but I doubt he did one this early. The group they targeted was an Iranian backed militia group, allegedly. If Biden continues Obama's foreign policy, then you can expect fighting proxy wars in Syria (and more drone strikes), keeping Bashar al-Assad in power, and giving more cash to Iran.

I guess we really can’t say that yet though, we’re not sure on what actually happened here. I’m curious on when it’ll be explained to the American people.

As of right now they are saying it is a defensive action and that Congress did get information on it though.

But at the end of the day — the Presidency is still the same in terms of being super powerful. Both parties love when the presidency is all powerful.
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California doing it’s own stimulus package now? on: February 26, 2021, 06:24:43 PM


That’s most likely the goal of a lot of this, get the attention off of Newsom and his recall and get it onto something else. Maybe Cuomo will try something similar in NY cause he’s literally fighting for his political life over there.

Sounds like a very expensive initiative that hasn’t been tried before, at least on this scale, and is going to be an interesting thing for people to study in the years to come. This is the reason that the states being ‘laboratories of democracy’s is very interesting and allows for continued innovation.

Doubt this takes off, but I’m not a researcher so who the hell knows if it will go beyond California.

Just so everyone knows, this is a $600 payment to people making under 30k a year which will cost approx $2.3B
"laboratories of democracy"---if only we approached it this way

Newsom is up for re-election next year, the recall is a political angle that has been successful in the past. The Davis recall created a  bit of a free for all gubernatorial race in 2003
there are probably better articles but Hoover is in my favorites bar
 https://www.hoover.org/research/newsom-recall-lets-first-recall-how-it-happened-gray-davis

As for a permanent state level UBI? Alaska makes more sense in that it has a "hard resource".
Our agriculture wouldn't be a viable source and our tech economy is being put to the test right now, as in: do companies have to be in (expensive) Silicon Valley?
We couldn't even agree on allocating water resources (water wars---still happening and corrupt AF)

Also for real life perspective:
The mortgage on my duplex in South Carolina is less than $600 a month
The space for my RV in California (Silicon Valley adjacent) is $1100. a month



In some ways we do still use the laboratories of democracy to see what works in the states and then it'll be mimicked to some degree on the federal level. Ex: Romney Care and ObamaCare

Highly doubt Newsom is actually going to be recalled -- I think it'll make it to the ballot, but he'll survive. The state is a LOT more liberal today then it was in 2003 when David was recalled. Cuomo on the other hand, I'm not sure what the hell is going to happen to him -- though he can't be recalled, NYS law says so.
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Riot Hearings on: February 26, 2021, 04:31:09 AM
Hawley min wage proposal - https://www.axios.com/hawley-minimum-wage-tax-credits-2087ac1e-a007-4095-b2b8-c0aa6d202dc2.html - probably going to make a thread about this.

hawley plan
1. anyone working for a billion dollar revenue company to get $15min wage from corporation
2. those working for 'cheaper' companies will be subsidised by a Universal Basic Income funded by government

biden plan
1. raise minimum wage to $15 for anyone working in the US. .. by 2025

bidens plan seems empty as its not a campaign promise for this presidency but a promise for the next presidency.
hawleys plan is to get things started sooner. but at the cost of losing the trust of the anti-gov supporters(trumpettes) that hate paying taxes/having taxes to support people
im guessing he is trying to appease the socialist democrats onto his side while pushing out the trumpette folk that supported trump ideals(bait and switch)



Pretty sure the idea of the plan is to become an ‘anti big business republican’ and to lean on the populist Trump like ways to gain power within the party.

Big businesses aren’t popular at all, while small businesses are VERY POPULAR.

Bidens plan isn’t going to happen now either as the budget reconciliation parliamentary thing has killed it in the Senate. Saves Dem leadership though, highly doubt they wanted that vote to happen — as Manchin could’ve flipped and would’ve had good reason to.

I like Hawleys plan in broad strokes, though I do not like it too much as it does get a bit too complicated and would be hard for regular people to understand how much money they’re making.
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus? on: February 26, 2021, 04:19:47 AM
Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.

Some of the vaccines that are already out help against these mutations, not the same degree that they would the normal strain though it is good enough to not be scared. We shouldn’t write off these vaccines even if there are mutations out there. Worst case you’d require a booster vaccine sometime in the future.

Here’s a quote from CNBC about the mutations and vaccines:

Evidence so far suggests that the two Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S., from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, appear to offer good protection against new variants.
10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine. on: February 26, 2021, 04:16:18 AM
Honestly, I wouldn't force older people to be vaccinated. Because according to sources I read that the covid-19 vaccine has side effects such as diarrhea and dizziness, and I don't want to harm the people closest to me, especially those who are old.
Of course. You wouldn't want to feel dizzy for a few hours! How barbaric! I know I'd much rather have respiratory failure and a 20% chance of death than feel a bit dizzy. Roll Eyes

I'd really hate to feel the effects of the second vaccine for a day or so (as the first vaccination doesn't typically have side effects) instead of death.

Ugh -- a headache and being in bed for a day is so much better then dying. LOL. I understand not wanting to force vaccinations on people, as older people can just quarantine indefinitely if they want to / can but that's not a reason to just write off vaccinations as a whole.


Right!

It's like 99% of the people get no Covid symptoms, or mild symptoms.

It's like 99% of the people who get the vaccine get mild to intense symptoms of something, and some die.

And if you are in the hospital with some dangerous comorbidity, your chances of dying from the vaccine greatly increase.

I'd stay away from the vaccine. I'll take my chances with the 99% who get no or mild Covid symptoms.

Cool
You understand that the groups of people that we want to take the vaccine right now are those that have a very high chance of death if they were to get Covid? Somewhere in the realm of 5-20% depending on age and health related issues that cause them to be the first in line.

Like if you’ve ever gotten any sort of vaccine in your life you’d know that some mild symptoms — headache, aching, and so on is expected but that’s the short term (day or two) downside of ensuring that you wont die to this illness / wont be symptomatic so your chance of spreading it is lesser as well.

Sigh.
11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fate of $15 per hour lies in the hands of the Senate Parliamentary on: February 26, 2021, 04:03:14 AM
Yup, exactly. I think you may agree with parts of Hawleys plan for minimum wage increases.

Aside from being tied to the CPI, sounds unnecessarily complicated. And I don't know if it's shoddy reporting or Hawley being incompetent, but SSN doesn't imply citizenship. A person legally working in the US gets an SSN so this just sounds like red meat for the base and is either a possibly unconstitutional requirement or a lie.

The article does correctly note that this would basically shovel federal tax money into states that didn't raise the minimum wage.

Might be shoddy reporting, as I highly doubt there would be an issue with giving people this tax credit if they have a work visa to be here.

I like the plan in broad strokes. - Like forcing big businesses to pay $15 an hour and allowing more leeway for small businesses who may not survive paying that wage all across America.

Makes more sense to tie it to cost of living in the locality, but that makes too much sense so Congress wont do that.

The free market is already effectively making the minimum wage at something around $15/hour. Many major companies that require little/no experience have starting wages at or about $15/hour. If you are an employer and try to pay your employees something less than $15/hour, you will have difficulty finding and retaining employees.


Raising the statutory minimum wage is not possible via budget reconciliation. Senate rules are clear on this. If Democrats want to raise the minimum wage, they will need to negotiate with Republicans. With that being said, Republicans agreeing to raise the minimum wage after receiving some concessions is not entirely unrealistic due to my statement above.

Yup, the parliamentary has decided that budget reconciliation can not be used to do this which means that this bill will not include any sort of minimum wage increase. Saves moderate dems and dem leadership from a tough vote as well as moderate Republicans who may have a tough reelection.
12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it time to uninstall WhatsApp? on: February 25, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
It was useful and good like 10 years ago. Now they are not better than some other apps like viber, signal, telegram. I have stopped using it like 3 years ago.

10 yrs ago, so pretty much just before WhatsApp was purchased by Facebook and any/all data privacy was compromised by Facebook.

Pretty sure they’ve only recently — within the last two years — begun data mining through WhatsApp. But still, why would you use any app made by a data company when you can use something like Signal? (not telegram though, that app is pretty damn shady)

13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fate of $15 per hour lies in the hands of the Senate Parliamentary on: February 25, 2021, 10:50:08 PM
This is becoming a bit ridiculous for Democrats. The $15 is mostly symbolic, with many large employers already paying that much or close to it, so it's just going to squeeze smaller employers in some low cost-of-living areas and won't do shit for their constituents in large blue cities. OTOH, it should be a no-brainer instead of a fixed amount to make it indexed on inflation like it's done in... you know... sane countries.

Yup, exactly. I think you may agree with parts of Hawleys plan for minimum wage increases.


The bill: Hawley is proposing a three-year program that would increase worker wages in 2021, paid by taxpayers rather than employers.

Hawley told Axios he also would support a $15 minimum wage for workers of large corporations that generate at least $1 billion in annual revenue.

Those making below $16.50 per hour would receive a refundable tax credit worth 50% of the difference, paid out in quarterly installments. The $16.50 could increase over time, as it would be tied to the Consumer Price Index.
The credit would only apply to 40 hours or less of weekly work.
Only American workers with valid Social Security numbers would be eligible, meaning non-U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants would be excluded.
Between the lines: Hawley's plan would immediately be implemented in the 2021 tax year, expiring in 2024.

The real best case situation is to tie this entire thing to local cost of living and have that done without some massive overarching federal piece of legislation that wont pass if its included.

Pretty such Dem leadership declares that it cant be included so they have a reason to not put it into this Covid stimulus bill. Because if it is I think this bill may be dead by a vote or two. Even if this is a gradual increase, it just doesn’t make sense everywhere in the US.
14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Riot Hearings on: February 25, 2021, 10:39:33 PM
Lol, Hawley is totally going to be a potential nominee for the party in 2024 as well. Guy is at least trying to change what Republican looks like, as he just released a minimum wage proposal that I thought was pretty interesting.

Hawley is the Super Trump option in 2024. There will be never Trumpers and Trump lite as well. Cheney is the never, who the fuck knows who Trump lite is.

Hawley min wage proposal - https://www.axios.com/hawley-minimum-wage-tax-credits-2087ac1e-a007-4095-b2b8-c0aa6d202dc2.html - probably going to make a thread about this.
15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump for prison. on: February 25, 2021, 10:13:13 PM
Easy win for Trump in 2024.

I'll take that bet Grin

When people reference Marjorie Taylor Greene as a right wing nut job (which she totally is), I don't think they realize AOC is on the same level with the amount of dumb shit she says on a routine basis. And because the way the media works, I don't think I've ever seen anyone ask her any tough questions on her stupid proposals ever. So moral of the story, people on the left and right have lost their minds and it's the ordinary average Americans that suffer from the tribalism.

There is a big difference between being dumb and having opinions that you don't like. I don't like AOC, and I don't like McConnel (or rather their political positions; I don't really know them personally) but I think both are quite intelligent. I think MTG is genuinely crazy or acts crazy to pander to the base, same thing. I've noticed that AOC is a favorite villain for right wing media but when you dig into what she's actually saying - there is nothing on the level of Jews using space lasers to start wildfires. There are some fabricated quotes being attributed to her, maybe that's what's confusing you.

Can’t wait to see Trump declare his candidacy for 2024 at CPAC in the coming days.

In all seriousness, he will totally be playing kingmaker for the republicans in their pursuit of taking back the Senate/House in 2022 so there’s a lot to watch at CPAC.

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Highly doubt that anything leads him closer to prison though. At the end of the day he’s still the former President of the United States and there is literally no way that the former President of the US is going to face any sort of consequences for their actions.
16  Other / Politics & Society / Fate of $15 per hour lies in the hands of the Senate Parliamentary on: February 25, 2021, 09:58:48 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen this news, though in the coming days the Senate parliamentary will make a decision on if $15 an hour federal minimum wage can be included in COVID 19 stimulus bill.

The only reason the parliamentary must make a decision is b/c Dems are trying to pass through budget reconciliation which only requires 51 votes instead of the normal 60 votes (w cloture) in the Senate. The caveat to using this method is that the parts included in these budget reconciliation bills must have substantial budgetary impact.

Here’s a bit from the MarketWatch article about the process:

Senate rules require that items in such a bill must have a substantial budget impact that is not “merely incidental” to the language’s main intended purpose.

MacDonough has been meeting with Democrats who have tried convincing her that their minimum wage provision meets that test and with Republicans who have told her it doesn’t. Democrats want to raise the federal floor, fixed at $7.25 hourly since 2009, to $15 over five years.

What do ya folks think about the fate of this portion of the bill being left to a non partisan appointed member of the Senate

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fate-of-federal-15-minimum-wage-rests-in-hands-of-senate-parliamentarian-elizabeth-macdonough-01614276142
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dead assholes on: February 25, 2021, 09:51:08 PM
Many lefties would jump for joy
for Rush dying
or Trump dying

Many righties would be filled with glee If AOC kicks the bucket.

Well, if you look at it this way, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Lefties" can talk shit about Limbaugh's death because they think "righties" would do the same if AOC passed away and vice versa. Still that's wrong all the same.

Not talking about vile dictators or other people who may have conceivably deserved to die for their crimes, death is the end of any grievances one might have had with the deceased and if I malign a dead person - I'm the asshole, not the dead person. Even from a purely practical standpoint, it makes no sense to expend any energy to fight a dead "enemy".

But yeah I know people who genuinely seem to want Trump to croak while at the same time claiming some moral high ground over him... go figure.

LOL, I’ve seen tons of this on social media and even with friends of mine.

They’ll be like oh my god thank the lord Rush died he was such a horrible person. But once someone their side dies, they act as if all is well. I was going to use RBG as my example of someone else dying, though you really can’t compare Rush (conservative personality) and RBG (liberal sc justice)

I don’t think as many people would be able to get away with saying ‘thank god’ when AOC dies, or Obama, or Biden, or whatever compared to when to when Trump dies.

I’ll never understand the line of thought, but that’s just how some people operate.
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 25, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/22/yellen-sounds-warning-about-extremely-inefficient-bitcoin.html

Why thank you Joe Biden for your nomination. Bitcoin is tumbling for multiple reasons today but I don't find her comments particularly true or useful. And besides, if we're talking about energy usage, does it not take a metric ton of energy to continually print USD? Pretty sure there was more printing within the last two years than ever before in US history. Those energy bills stack up, ya know.



Short term news, don’t get too worried about it.

I think she, as a former chair of the fed, may want to worry about the fact that the Federal Reserve Financial Services were disrputed for about an hour yesterday due to some computer glitch. Pretty much meaning that wire transfers, ach transfers, and some other services wouldn’t work and the servers they were on needed a reboot.

Even if we don’t have a digital dollar in the US yet, we pretty much have one cause all money has been made digital. - https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-reserve-reports-several-business-lines-disrupted-by-operational-error-11614194912

My main concern is that she's going to be anti-Bitcoin to the point where she can regulate the hell out of it driving the price down. Imagine if she pushed for taxing P2P crypto transactions (not that it's feasible ofc but for the sake of discussion), she could single handedly derail BTC and other cryptos. If she started to push for regulation of US based exchanges, that would also have an effect.

Her comments are not too consequential alone, but it's enough to make me be cautious of the Biden administration in regards to crypto currency.

Pretty sure that’s been our concerns in this market for awhile. While they may be able to drive the price down, it wont change the utility of Bitcoin (or of any cryptocurrency for that matter) I’m not sure how long they could change the narrative on Bitcoin through banning exchanges, taxing things, and so on and so forth, but it’s still something to be scared of.

One reason that I’m not super spooked is that the second biggest donor to Joe Bidens Campaign was the founder of FTX Sam Bankman-Fried. He donated approx $5M to his campaign.

While Biden could really do whatever he wants, having lobbying efforts on our side is bound to help a bit. We haven’t seen any signals so far of any crypto regulations or even anti crypto people in places where they could regulate.
19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California doing it’s own stimulus package now? on: February 25, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
Maybe Gavin Newsom thinks it will help him against his impending recall? ----though the recall effort began right after he was elected so it will likely happen anyways.

One of the articles (that won't hit a paywall)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-22/california-600-stimulus-checks-low-income-residents-grants-small-business-legislature-approves.

Funding UBI (universal basic income) at state level? Interesting concept although it seems as if there are businesses moving out of California because of high cost of living, environmental regs  + taxes.


Andrew Yang talked about Alaska in reference to a state currently adopting a form of UBI

https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/andrew-yang-2638970046

"The Alaska Permanent Fund directs oil revenue into a fund that pays Alaskans a yearly dividend, usually between $1,000 and $2,000.
Andrew Yang points to this and other experiments to support the efficacy of a universal basic income.
However, Alaska's model leaves several important questions unanswered."


That’s most likely the goal of a lot of this, get the attention off of Newsom and his recall and get it onto something else. Maybe Cuomo will try something similar in NY cause he’s literally fighting for his political life over there.

Sounds like a very expensive initiative that hasn’t been tried before, at least on this scale, and is going to be an interesting thing for people to study in the years to come. This is the reason that the states being ‘laboratories of democracy’s is very interesting and allows for continued innovation.

Doubt this takes off, but I’m not a researcher so who the hell knows if it will go beyond California.

Just so everyone knows, this is a $600 payment to people making under 30k a year which will cost approx $2.3B
20  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine. on: February 25, 2021, 06:45:27 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't force older people to be vaccinated. Because according to sources I read that the covid-19 vaccine has side effects such as diarrhea and dizziness, and I don't want to harm the people closest to me, especially those who are old.
Of course. You wouldn't want to feel dizzy for a few hours! How barbaric! I know I'd much rather have respiratory failure and a 20% chance of death than feel a bit dizzy. Roll Eyes

I'd really hate to feel the effects of the second vaccine for a day or so (as the first vaccination doesn't typically have side effects) instead of death.

Ugh -- a headache and being in bed for a day is so much better then dying. LOL. I understand not wanting to force vaccinations on people, as older people can just quarantine indefinitely if they want to / can but that's not a reason to just write off vaccinations as a whole.

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