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41  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] btcQuick - Bitcoin Sales Service on: August 14, 2013, 10:04:16 AM
Your project is really interesting. The only part makes me hesitate to put coins in is your potential legal risk.

Have you got back from your attorney? What's your emergence plan if Uncle Sam punch you guys? Thanks!
42  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 我觉得买比特币股票比买比特币本身更不靠谱 on: August 14, 2013, 06:30:23 AM
和现实世界一样。BTC股票优化了BTC的资金配置,使市场效率更高。

有的人有BTC项目,但是没有流动资金。有的人有闲置资金,但是没有增值渠道。股票正好把二者对接在一起。如果人人都把币囤在钱包里,其实是减慢了整个BTC产业的发展速度

当然投什么就看个人的眼光了。也不是每项融资都有人买账,融资成功说明大家认可,融资失败的现在也已经不在少数了。金子与垃圾同在。
43  Economy / Securities / Re: [ANN] Hosted-Mining (revenue shares) / BTCT.co on: August 13, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
Watching Wink
44  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC][IPO]ASICME-Our Conquest Is the Sea of Stars on: August 12, 2013, 01:31:21 PM
I was wondering if you have noticed BTC-Garden buyback. What's you plan for potential legal/political risk?
45  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 12, 2013, 05:18:58 AM
This is a really sad end, as I have a few hundreds coins in it, but this is probably the smartest decision for BTC-Garden to make. The legal risk in China is higher than most of you could imagine. Its not impossible for government to seize their assets - if that happen, everyone lose way more than just 10 days opportunity cost.

I don't think "Guilty until proven innocent." is true in China. There is no such thing at all. There were plenty of Ponzi Schemes happened in China which took billions of Chinese dollar from innocent people. It is reasonable for government to do so before they understand how bitcoin work. For any of you held "Guilty until proven innocent is the case in China", especially if you are Chinese, unless you could find reference to support your argument, you are more than humiliating yourself.

This case also rings an alarm on all BTC IPO from Chinese teams as they all bear such risk.

Be careful and good luck to everyone.
46  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCGARDEN诈骗调查,BTCGARDEN Fraud investigation on: August 08, 2013, 06:15:18 AM
下午3点左右,在QQ群195845679 现场直播报警过程。因为下午我会手机上网,所以,不方便上论坛,请群里的朋友代为post到论坛里来。

还玩最后通牒,这是指望花园在3点前堵好他的嘴呢吧

建议花园千万别上当,这种屌丝心软一回以后100%黏上你,1亿也不够赔他玩的。记得保存好他和你们客服的聊天记录,比特币在国内算不算货币还另说呢,他试图敲诈勒索在先倒是坐实了的。

哈哈,买了股票怕跌了。。。怕什么来什么。。。
搞我诽谤或者敲诈尽管来。我所有信息都是真实,有效的。不像花园,什么都不敢提供。

呵呵
47  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCGARDEN诈骗调查,BTCGARDEN Fraud investigation on: August 08, 2013, 05:45:05 AM
下午3点左右,在QQ群195845679 现场直播报警过程。因为下午我会手机上网,所以,不方便上论坛,请群里的朋友代为post到论坛里来。

还玩最后通牒,这是指望花园在3点前堵好他的嘴呢吧

建议花园千万别上当,这种屌丝心软一回以后100%黏上你,1亿也不够赔他玩的。记得保存好他和你们客服的聊天记录,比特币在国内算不算货币还另说呢,他试图敲诈勒索在先倒是坐实了的。
48  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 07, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
Some questions:

1) Can you give more detailed information regarding how you simulated chip power consumption? You are stating a very efficient 3.75W/GH/s for a 130nm node, while Avalon chips on a 110nm node (more efficient) are getting at best 6.6W/GH/s.

2) You are estimating deployment of 350TH by the end of 2013, and even with 3.75W/GH/s, that's a power consumtion of 1,312.5 kWh. How are you going to manage a 1.3 MWh facility?

3) Can you provide a better explanation of your profit projections? Let's say all goes well and you have 350TH mining in the 1st of December 2013. Let's also assume you have incredible logistics and get the 350TH just from the current 2M shares @ BTC0.016. You'll have around ~5 months of profit before the huge energy bill starts eating the revenue and making the profit negative (~May 2014). Unfortunately, the cumulative return is also bound to never return those initial BTC32,000.

Data: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/



Come on, you know how these ASIC companies work: if they say "the end of 2013", that could be Dec 31st or even later, but definitely not Dec 1st
49  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCGARDEN诈骗调查,BTCGARDEN Fraud investigation on: August 06, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
btcgarden就是停牌了。
一旦解封,我会抛光所有btcgarden股票,仅保留1股,作为我投资者身份,。继续调查,举报,报警。

楼主你好,已经解封了。请问你的股票抛了吗?你的1股留了吗?能不能麻烦发个交易截图让大家看看。你要是说到做不到,你就是真正的骗子。
加QQ群195845679,我已经截图了。

为什么要加群,你发到这儿让更多人看到他们的“真面目”不更加正义么
50  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCGARDEN诈骗调查,BTCGARDEN Fraud investigation on: August 06, 2013, 02:20:57 PM
btcgarden就是停牌了。
一旦解封,我会抛光所有btcgarden股票,仅保留1股,作为我投资者身份,。继续调查,举报,报警。

楼主你好,已经解封了。请问你的股票抛了吗?你的1股留了吗?能不能麻烦发个交易截图让大家看看。你要是说到做不到,你就是真正的骗子。
51  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 03, 2013, 06:56:10 AM
Thankx so much for the translation although in my side its more or less inaccurate. Smiley

Here re lines about the 2ed-batch.

1. Please notice that: All of you 1st batch of shareholders ,without whom neither this IPO nor our big project would be possible , are our most precious capital. We are  in the same boat and we promise to do our best to line your pockets.

2. Please notice that the 2ed batch of BTCGARDEN will

    *be impossible to issue before we reach a significant milestone in the development of our project.
 
    *a portion of 2nd batch shares will be used for "protecting the interests" of our shareholders,which means that there is a possibility that we will not issue all of the 2nd batch of 2,000,000 shares in future. I cannot expand this at the moment but I d like to say this could be a very good deal/offer to all our shareholders.

    *Certainly , the price of 2ed will be higher than the 1st.


Update :

We have received our sample-PCB and it is being tested in every aspect. Everything s running well so far. ( Mass production of PCBs will start later and can be finished within one week in Shenzhen)
We also dealed with an acquaintances packaging factory to shorten the Package period from 10days to 3days. I.E. we will get our chips in hand only 3-4 days later after out of  Fab.
We will hold a meeting next weekend in Beijing to discuz our future plans incl.: 2nd gen chips, deployment plans for 1st gen chips, application of analog circuit  in our project , a lot of experts both on R and D have been invited.


Amazing post! Thank you and keep good working!

Last 450k, go!
52  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特先锋团队主导翻译的Bitcoin.org简体中文版已正式上线 on: August 02, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
辛苦你们啦! 严重支持!!
53  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 02, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Thanks for so much +1 Grin

More updates from Btcman (http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3774&extra=page%3D1&page=20)

Someone asked Aiwill about second batch (he asked in Chinese, here is my translation): I suggest you to release the second batch after you really achieve something real.

Aiwill replied (again, in Chinese, here is my translation): You bet! Relax please! In addition, to our first batch buyers, we will do our best to benefit you. Please trust in us. The second batch will only be released after we got some "breakthrough". We haven't decided the details, but I am sure that the price will be higher than the first batch. That will make the second batch price as a "protection layer" for first batch buyers. We appreciate our initial batch buyers' trust. Please relax.

(Translation end)

Apparently, quite a few shareholders cannot read English while some other shareholders cannot read Chinese. So there are communication lags from one language to the other one.

Seriously, Aiwill, I suggest you to do your best to disclose any information relevant to BTC Garden in both language at minimum delay. English speaking shareholders are taking no less risk than Chinese speaking shareholders. Its not fair if information disclose put them at a disadvantage. Thanks!
54  Local / 媒体 / Re: 比特币首个自媒体--”洋洋访谈“ 节目持续更新中 已更新至第7期 on: August 02, 2013, 01:20:02 PM
这节目很不错,现在已经每期必看了。感谢洋洋的NB创意和辛苦劳动。顺便求第7期密码~
55  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 02, 2013, 11:24:56 AM
Just FYI

This company has a BTC forum in Chinese (like Bitcointalk, but much more smaller of course). The address is (http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php). The earliest post in that forum posted in late 2012. It also has a BTC exchange in Chinese (like Coinbase, but much more smaller of course). The past 24 hrs trading volume was 1100 coins. The address is (https://btcsea.com). In other words, this company isn't the kind of team suddenly come to public from nowhere. It has been in this industry for really a while. That's probably why there are some guys threw 500+ coins to buy their shares.

I know it needs a lot faith to put your hard earned coins (ok, maybe not that hard) in such a huge IPO with so much uncertainty, especially when the PR here is kind of arrogant and lack of proper communication skill. Also there is significant language barrier. And I really doubt that he care about answering questions from potential investor. The only thing I believe is that this project might turn out to be failure, but its not a scam. Also FYI, I am a shareholder and my opinion above is clearly not independent.
56  Local / 媒体 / Re: 比特币首个自媒体--”洋洋访谈“ 节目持续更新中 已更新至第6期 on: August 01, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
求密码,谢谢!
57  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 01, 2013, 05:04:05 AM
Over 20% sold of the first tranche of 2 Million shares.

I expect it'll sell out over the next day or two.  It'll be interesting to see what price they release the 2nd 2Million shares at.
Anyone buying at higher than 0.016 will be taking a big risk that they release the next lot at only a tiny amount higher.

It seems strange to me that they haven't given some approximate indication of how much higher they might price the 2nd tranche... because without some idea, people won't be in any hurry to bid up prices.


I doubt that the 2 million will be sold in couple of days, probably months.  Expect others will sell their shares at lower price.

I am pretty positive that the rest will gone by tomorrow at most. It's impressive that 1/4 already gone without any advance "IPO start" notice. Guess what will happen when investors in US and EU wake up.
58  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
- 3 PM CST/4 PM EST is the cutoff for bidding.  (EDITED!)

FYI: That's 22:00 CEST or 20:00 GMT.

http://www.thetimenow.com/est/eastern_standard_time
Hi all, I'm posting this somewhat blind.  (haven't caught up with the last 10 or so pages...)

TheSwede75 and I have talked a bit and here's what we've come up with:

- 3 PM CST/4 PM EST is the cutoff for bidding.  (EDITED!)
- Sometime shortly after that time I will lock the asset.
    - All bids below 0.001 will be thrown out.
    - All bids posted after the cutoff will be thrown out.
- We will then add up all the bids and use the total to create a ratio of number of shares ordered to number of shares available.  (eg, 9,000,000 ordered, 7,000,000 available gives us a ratio of 0.777)
- We will multiply everyone's orders times the ratio and extract a whole number of shares on a per order basis.  The orders will then be filled according to the result at 0.001 BTC.  (regardless of what they actually bid.)
- This will leave some number of shares available due to rounding down to a whole number on every calculation.  We'll figure out a way to deal with these fairly.  Most likely recipients will be chosen at random from the pool of bidders but they will be a very small portion of the overall issue.
- 8 PM CST/9 PM EST we remove the admin lock and everyone can start trading.

Wednesdays are already full days for me with ASICMINER-PT related duties and my day job.  So please be patient today.  Responses to customer service and related requests will unfortunately be delayed significantly so that I can write and test all the code necessary to execute the plan above.

Cheers.

Given an example:

7 Million shares / 9 Million orders = 0.777

I have 50,000 share order @ 0.001, total 50 btc

50,000 x 0.777 = 38,850 shares

My share become 38,850 and it's worth 0.001287 per share

The higher number of orders the higher the price per share will be.



No, you will get 38,850 at 0.001. The rest of your money (11,150*0.001) will go back to your wallet and may then go to poor ActM
59  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 04:40:55 PM
Been following this thread since the inception and just want to say that this is probably the most transparent and well coordinated IPO ive seen to date, from what it seems like the demand is absolutely overwhelming and cant wait to put some coins to work with this company, hopefully I can buy faster than the bots!!!

+1

At first I just want to make a quick profit from this IPO to be honest. But now I truly have faith on your success as I see your integrity.
60  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Since no solution at this point will be 'perfect' and we are doing the best we can I would like to apologize in advance to anyone that feels that our solution is unfair. As previously mentioned, we had no way of anticipating asset-release time or interest in the IPO.

Just pull the trigger at the stated time, release the entire amount, at the IPO price and let the market decide.

I'll provide a shoulder for anyone to cry on if their feelings got hurt for only 1btc per 5min.

Dude! You should totally set up a shoulder IPO
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