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All good mate... as you say, just pointing out some things from *my* perspective  Wasn't meant to come across as definitive statements for why things are as they are, but more "I think it is like that because...". Honestly, the only people who REALLY know for sure are the Ledger peeps... maybe go hit them up directly and provide some feedback, I'm sure they appreciate the thoughts from a new user. Yeah, sure, I'm mailing them back & forth for a week now to get an invoice, so I rather pass. |
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Thank you all! Sorry for bothering, but this is all still new stuff to me. I've started trading/buying/learning like 2 weeks ago, so please forgive me if I will ask stupid questions (stupid for old users), as my time for learning is strictly limited (2 little kids, just to say). Anyway, these answers fully satisfies me, as I really have no issues with revealing, how much I have (not much  for now, so...). If the security is not compromised here, I'm all good. And I was thinking, that "sweeping" is some magical  way to teleport my funds. Apparently, that is not the case |
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Chrome apps? Really? Why there is not a native Windows/Linux/Mac app with all the accounts holds together?
Most likely because it is already cross-platform... and easier to maintain ONE codebase than three. Separate apps for almost each coin is super counterintuitive.
Why? It helps keeps thing segregated. The number of people who seem to like loading up BCH addresses and sending BTC when on exchanges that have everything in one place would indicate that this may not be such a bad thing. Also, it means from a development perspective, there are less likely to be issues when updating/adding new coins... you change something in BTC app you only need to test BTC app, you don't have to do regression testing on EVERYTHING to make sure you haven't screwed up another part of the codebase... makes testing faster and means they can release updates faster, which is good for users Also, the system, when you have to close one "wallet" chromium app to launch manager for example is hyper stupid.
No, it isn't... can you imagine the problems that might occur should you happen to start "managing" apps while the wallet is busy communicating with one? Ensuring that only ONE process is using the device at a time is a good thing in my opinion. From UX point of view, also launching app is stupid - the app should initiate the connection, not the device itself - device should only confirm PIN/password.
I'm not sure I follow, you launch the wallet app in Chrome and it opens and waits. You then select the coin you want to use on the device and it "pairs" with the Chrome wallet app. Not really any different to connecting say your phone to a WiFi hotspot is it? Last but not least - why 2 buttons only? Was third button really so expensive to add?
I'd say it was more about "space"... I think a 3rd button would have been a bit of a "tight" fit and could have lead to accidental clicking of buttons. And, to be honest, I don't see the need for a third button... is it really that hard to click both buttons together as "select"?  Mind you, I've been using it for a while now... so it might just be an experience thing. Thank you for your answer. The important thing here is to understand, that I was posting only MY PERSONAL OPINION as a brand new/fresh user (what I've stated in my original post, but maybe not clearly enough). Anyway, I tend to value opinions of every other person, cause that's help me to understand other points of view and update (at some points) my assumptions in terms of better UX designing. As I wrote, I'm not an engineer and probably there are solid TECHNICAL reasons this is constructed in a way it is now, I'm not arguing on that. The only thing I'm arguing is the stupidity of some solutions that Ledger is imprinting here - and ONLY as a new user! I also wrote (which you also pointed) that probably after weeks of using Ledger you just get use to it and treat it like a "normal". These were only my initial impressions. Still, I beg to disagree in some points. [Chrome apps] You're right with cross-platforming, but then you've got a Ripple Wallet, which is... Windows native app, not Chrome app as others. [separate apps] Still believe that one "main" app, even if it will have separate "subprograms" for each wallet will benefit for UX/UI. [additional buttons] Yes, I still believe adding third button would benefit to UX. There are several ways to implement it, f.e. there could be a button on the other side of the device, there could be a "flat" button on the side where the LCD is, and so on... The whole device could be a little bit bigger to hold 3 or even 4 buttons (next, prev, OK, exit). KEEP IN MIND: I'm not trying to convince you or anyone to my point of view! I just like to broaden my horizons through discussion and all of these opinions are only my subjective, personal opinion after using the gear for the first time for like 60 minutes for now Have a good day and thank you for your input. |
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is there a way to scan/replicate/teleport/sweep my funds from Coinomi to Ledger OTHER than simply send tokens?
You can, but not "safely"... That is to say, you could always try restoring your Coinomi seed into the Ledger... which should theoretically clone the Coinomi wallet. But that would totally defeat the entire purpose of having the Ledger (ie. your seed/private keys have NEVER been "outside" the Ledger). The only truly safe way is to simply send the tokens to the wallet(s) on your Ledger (that was initialised with a seed in a "safe" manner, ie. inbuilt initialisation, or restored using a seed generated offline with dice etc). PS. is it safe to bond Ledger with MyEtherWallet? I'm not a big fan of online wallets...
Ledger and MEW is a safe combination. The private keys/seed cannot be accessed from outside the Ledger. The worse that could happen is that MEW could leak your "public" keys and/or addresses and compromise your privacy. [1] Yeah, I didn't want to restore my Coinomi wallet to Ledger, but rather "sweep paper wallet" for only one coin. But I got it, the best way in terms of security is to transfer them. Thanks. [2] But is leaking public keys a danger to my funds? I mean, by having access to my public keys is anyone able to "touch" my coins or tokens? Thank you very much for help! |
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Question: I have several ERC20 tokens, currently hold in Coinomi mobile wallet.
I want to transfer them to Ledger - is there a way to scan/replicate/teleport/sweep my funds from Coinomi to Ledger OTHER than simply send tokens?
I'm asking, cause transfer fees for ERC20 are awfully expensive comparing to other coins...
PS. is it safe to bond Ledger with MyEtherWallet? I'm not a big fan of online wallets...
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My Ledger did arrive (apart from all invoice stuff) and after initial problems I was able to initialize it, create a new wallet and secure it.
Question: I have several ERC20 tokens, currently hold in Coinomi mobile wallet.
I want to transfer them to Ledger - is there a way to scan/replicate/teleport/sweep my funds from Coinomi to Ledger OTHER than simply send tokens?
I'm asking, cause transfer fees for ERC20 are awfully expensive comparing to other coins...
Initial impression - it's a very complicated ecosystem with veeeeery bad UX/UI in my subjective opinion.
Chrome apps? Really? Why there is not a native Windows/Linux/Mac app with all the accounts holds together?
Separate apps for almost each coin is super counterintuitive.
Also, the system, when you have to close one "wallet" chromium app to launch manager for example is hyper stupid.
From UX point of view, also launching app is stupid - the app should initiate the connection, not the device itself - device should only confirm PIN/password.
Last but not least - why 2 buttons only? Was third button really so expensive to add?
I know, that human can get used to almost everything and maybe (I'm not engineer) there are some technical specification that force this kind of "stupidity" but for me, as a UX designer (I'm not bragging here, just trying to say, that I'm not a "rookie" in computer tech) and a normal user this is just plain stupid. And calling hardware wallets "easy" to use
- as I saw in some websites - are waaaaaaaaaaaaay exaggerated.
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I've ordered Ledger from "LedgerWallet" seller on Amazon.de, it's official account of Ledger France and so far (it doesn't arrived yet) I'm very dissapointed, as Ledger wrote me, that they don't raise VAT-EU invoice.
So, I'm waiting for another reply from Ledger itself and Amazon and I will probably return it and buy Trezor.
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I personally know girls, which are TERRIBLE at driving cars. I personally know girls, that are AMAZING at driving cars, motorcycles, etc.
I personally know guys, that are terrible at driving. This is just one example, but I believe, you can measure by the same scale on different topics.
Assuming, that "one" can be good/bad at something, just for theirs gender is a huge... well... mistake, let's say.
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Good question. I was also wondering abour the seeds of the different coins. But seperate private keys of every coin can can be exported. I did that for example with ETH to import to myetherwallet.
Did you export private keys via Coinomi menu? It redirects to webpage... Is it safe or should I use air-gapped machine then? |
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OK, thanks for the explanation.
This is about software version of wallet on desktop computer.
What if I want to use light mobile HD wallet, like Coinomi for example?
I install it on factory reseted separate mobile phone, which is NEVER connected to network.
Is it still possible to secure-use mobile wallet to deposits and withdrawals?
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Wkrótce wprowadzą bankomaty, w których będzie można przeliczać złote na dolary. W niektórych bankach i tak skonwertowane. W Krakowie jest już bankomat.
Ale ja nie chcę przeliczać, bo to mogę zrobić sam. Chcę albo przelać USD na konto giełdy albo zrobić charge karty, ale w USD. Nie chodzi mi o przewalutowanie. |
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I want to buy popular altcoins (ETH, LTC, BCH, etc.) via USD (this one is crucial).
It could be directly via debit card or with wire transfer (but only trusted one).
coinbase
High fee, cannot buy with USD in Europe (EUR only)
kraken
use USDT, not USD, which I don't trust at all
bitfinex
min. deposit is 10.000$, which is ridiculous
Binance
it's only alt exchange, with no FIATs
Bittrex
registration is temporarily suspended, so...
cex.io
registration is temporarily suspended, so...
Changelly
They had a very negative feedback lately, so I'm not willing to test it with $100 - which is minimum deposit.
I tend to check every new service with small amounts first and if this works good, then I invest larger amounts. For "small" I mean like 20, 30$.
GDAX
bitstamp
bitcoin.de
Gemini
Luno
eToro
BitPanda
I don't have any experience with all reds above. Could anyone, who have been using them, can elaborate?
Otherwise, what's your opinion about ALL of mentioned above, in terms of using EUR instead of USD?
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Noob question. Suppose I set up this air-gapped crypto wallet either on laptop or brand fresh Android device.
Just out of curiosity - if I setup a cold wallet without connectivity, how can I check balance and make deposits and withdrawals?
I know, that this question may seem to you trivial, but I really cannot wrap my mind around this idea...
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Yeah OK, but I dont want to buy BTC, only popular alts.
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Sooooo, as for February 2nd, what's the security status of Coinomi?
Can someone with a better technical knowledge can add sth. to this topic?
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A jakie giełdy/kantory sprawdzone (!) żeby za USD (konkretnie USD, nie żadna inna waluta) kupić krypto - ale za wyjątkiem BTC? Mogą być LTC, ETH, DASH, XRP, wszystko jedno. Byleby działało, nie było oszustwem, i nie miało chorych prowizji?
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