No, you can buy Bitcoins without having any.
So I will buy real Bitcoins with these IOUs I guess? Exchanges are designed to facilitate trades between strangers...
That is what ZR does. Even if you do buy from a friend, you would not know. Every deal is "remote", Zero Reserve is somewhat hard to explain - you need to use it. Just get the code and everything will fall into place. So when saying 'friends', what you exactly meant is 'retroshare friends'? |
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Hmmm.....it does look like people are more into the Ripple-style IOUs, then really solving the banking problem.  There's a difference here: you don't owe to some huge corporation but your friends. For many people, the problem is they are owed by some huge corporations, it's not like when it comes to debts your friend is exactly more credible than some huge corporations. Also, if the debts can only be exchanged between friends, why not just go buying bitcoins from them with cash/bank transfer?(especially the assumption here is you already trust them)
Also ZeroReserve uses Bitcoin instead of XRP.
Does that mean I have to have some bitcoins before I can trade? That doesn't sound really ideal. IMHO ZeroReserve has great potential to improve Bitcoin's exchange situation.
Exchanges are designed to facilitate trades between strangers, especially when it comes to large amount trading. Also there are other alternatives, but nobody pays attention. |
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Hmmm.....it does look like people are more into the Ripple-style IOUs, then really solving the banking problem. |
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敢不敢做P2P交易  也不是说就一定要做，问题是：红旗还能打得多久？ |
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有郁金香泡沫，荷兰才成了郁金香王国。有dot-com泡沫，才有互联网产业。投机者不烧钱，真正做事的人上哪找钱啊？ 要感谢投机者为人类进步做出的历史性贡献。  |
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小川哥啥想法，他不是以前看到币价过$500都不爽么？
小川哥暂时忙不过来了吧，经济大环境压力太大了 那就让他压力更大一些。 |
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小川哥啥想法，他不是以前看到币价过$500都不爽么？
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这一波做空基本以失败告终，虽然国外市场价格打压严重，国内价格由于资金充裕，很快领先涨回，恢复上涨势头，国内外差价巨大，有搬砖渠道的可以无风险获得巨大利益，估计国外市场很快就会涨上来，直到搬砖利益下降到足够低为止。
现在行情基本跟着中的交易平台走！ 中国正成为比特币玩家最多的国家！ 比特币大部分在中国人手里的话不知道是好是坏 不会大部分在国人手里，历史上挖矿大多是外国人挖出。由于中国的资本管制，外国人也很少到中国市场来卖币，所以中国人不会控制大部分的币。 |
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I think there's definitely price manipulation going on, like, on this thread.
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It's stupid that I am the first to bring that up but here it is.
JED probably cares enough about his own money that he won't exhaust the order-book with his sales but essentially do it automated based on liquidity. Essentially, in his case prolonging the process of cashing out over his whole expected lifetime.
If he cared solely about his own money, the way to make the most would be to not tell people in advance.  Yes, exactly. There is more going on here than we are privy to. And, no, this isn't FUD to get the price to drop to buy "cheap coins." Approximately 80% of the coins are owned by Ripple Labs, and another 9% or so by Jed. The entire premise that XRPs were a store of value was flawed, even if you believe the ripple concept is useful as a global hawala network. You need them to worth something to be able to move any amount of money, unless you buy into the whole IOU stuff of course. |
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Actually the crudest method usually works the best, that's, when you have the right audience and a profitable model.
Caoliu, the biggest Chinese porn site ever, which is hosted as a forum on which dissident speeches are not censored, has millions of members, most of them Mainland Chinese and is making millions of dollars every year, what they do to evade the GFW is simply to redirect the traffic to a new IP address every once in a while, with the domain name being accessible on a variety of places after Captcha checking, etc.
When people want to watch porn, you just can't stop them.
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The cost(work) it takes to produce a PoS chain, is the cost it takes to duplicate("fake") one, that's probably all there needs to be said about it.
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对楼上的回复：
1.党国政府盗窃你的钱的猖狂程度，绝对远超东欧黑客盗窃比特币，只不过党国会用一个个名目包装这种盗窃，并且，因为比特币仿佛开源软件，一切信息都是公开的，所以每发生一起事故，你都有完全的知情能力，在法币的领域里，很多事情你根本被蒙在鼓里，但不代表它们没发生;
2.嗯，那么使用收手续费的交易所吧，另外，鉴别这种骗局，很简单，不是么？骗局中最可恶的有一点是被骗者的无知，因为他们某种意义上让骗子得以生存发展。
3.同1,没有被发现的违规和盗窃不代表没有发生，传统金融机构可以用各种合法的名目耗空储户的钱，一个交易员玩掉投资人十几亿美元的钱的事例，在历史上屡见不鲜。另外，Gox可不是没有接收监管机构监督哦，当初我用它很久，那就是觉得它法律上做的最完备，结果呢？亏了用户那么多钱，傻瓜都看出来了，你见过日本监管部门动过一个手指头？
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好像很多人都高估了中国市场的影响力。其实中国人持币真有那么多么？
大部分的币肯定不是中国人挖出来的，那么国人想要进币，就得靠从外国人手里买，但是外国人根本不会来国盘玩，卖了钱都提不出去，所以我估计，国内玩家控币数远没有交易量看起来那么大，不需要对国内新闻太看重，否则搬砖的不是都赚死了。
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熵不够的密码,玩花样都是"Security through obscurity"。楼上的不要在这里向人提问，没用的，黑客想要破解你的钱包都是用显卡农场和很复杂的程序，那个能力超过正常人类不知道多少。 一个可行的办法是创建使用了密钥增强函数的地址，比如BIP0038： https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v2.9.3-SHA1-7d47ab312789b7b3c1792e4abdb8f2d95b726d64.html 拔掉网线（一定要！）离线创立地址，记住勾选“BIP38 Encrypt”那一项，这可以一定程度上减少你需要记忆的密码位数，减少3-5位这样吧。 Armory之类的软件，钱包私钥原生就是用密钥增强函数加密的，推荐使用。 需要注意的几点： 1.大额资金长期保存，用纸钱包备份后，把电脑上的钱包抹去，但是纸要多备份几份，避免遗失; 2.如果在电脑上保存钱包，平常使用blockchain.info之类的第三方服务检查余额，不要用密码给钱包开锁检查，只要你不输密码，木马就没可乘之机（前提是密码够牢固）; 3.用Mycelium的扫描纸钱包二维码功能进行支付比较安全快速; 4.经验不够丰富的，不要使用头脑钱包。 最后强调一句话：作为屌丝，你永远没必要知道自己的钱包里地址的私钥，要是你知道，说明你用的钱包不对头。如果你是大腕，想用签名证明自己的财力，风险自负。 |
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呵呵，工商局要整顿，还提前几天放风，是给交易所销毁证据的时间么？
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