Our next increase is already looking like it will be about 23+ %.
Bring it on, it will separate the Wannabees from the pros and bring lots of bargain hardware to E-bay when everybody panics  Date Registered: July 17, 2014, 08:54:19 PM Haha, i think its clear which one you are. Do you even lift bro? |
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By the time I get my antminers from the U.S I'll never ROI!
Not even close... |
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Bitmain was better, I am not sure whats happening, they used to sell from stock and every few days they would lower the price to compensate for the increased difficulty, hopefully they did not find a map from Sam where he shows them the path, at the last days of the S1 it was selling for $180 dollars ( in btc), and I am sure the S3 only costs a little bit more to produce that the S1. KNC was good in 2013, and now they are terrible. BFL was never good. Avalon was only good in the first 2 batches, and then collapsed. Spondoolies  ? I chat all day on a lot of trollboxes/forums. You said it perfectly, I am not sure whats happening. When people would ask if there was any way to have a chance at making money I would automatically say bitmain and rattle off your reasons above. ( taking each individuals location and electric costs into consideration ). Now I say Bitmain is the best, but buying an s3 now at .66 you are mining in most cases just to have a chance at not loosing a lot. Forget ANY possible chance at ROI. This next difficulty change is, atm, a game changer for anyone purchasing today at current .66 price. ( free electricity? Well then go for it. ) A 40% diff increase is not out of the question... |
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S3 sales slowing down or production ramping up?
I don't know about the production, but you can bet the sales are slowing down. Counting current diff increase trend 0.66 BTC per miner may very likely never been mined out of them. Probably expect serious BTC miner price reduction for Batch #7. Haha, wrong sir! Interesting. If it's shipped Aug 20th, it means starting mining Aug 23-25th. Type that in any calculator as a starting date with 10% difficulty increase and tell me if the miner will return 0.66 BTC. 10% difficulty increase?!? You wish man. Next one will be at least 20-25% possibly higher.... 30 mil hash came into the network right after last difficulty adjustment. I agree next difficulty will be in the 20-25% range if not higher. Also, besides the 30 mil added it looks like more then usual small network hash is getting added. The 30 mil bumped us up to 169 right after ( 7 mil more was added since that spike ) I was going to buy some more s3, but looks to me like something new is coming or private placement deal is going on withs oem big manufacturer. The price staying at .66 btc is not staying in line with bitmain customers at least having a chance to get ROI like in the past. I for one am holding off on getting any additional s3 units without a coupon ( Not happy bought 12 units and no coupons ) or a significant price reduction. right now block rate is 8.8 minutes not 10 minutes. that means 12- 14 % not close to 20%. clock the block rates if we stay at 8.8 minutes we need to increase 13.6 % to go back to 10 minutes. 8.8 x 1.136363 = about 10 . If the rumor that cex.io added a monster center in iceland is real that was the big jump. we won't add much from now on. Care to make a gentlemanly wager? |
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S3 sales slowing down or production ramping up?
I don't know about the production, but you can bet the sales are slowing down. Counting current diff increase trend 0.66 BTC per miner may very likely never been mined out of them. Probably expect serious BTC miner price reduction for Batch #7. Haha, wrong sir! Interesting. If it's shipped Aug 20th, it means starting mining Aug 23-25th. Type that in any calculator as a starting date with 10% difficulty increase and tell me if the miner will return 0.66 BTC. 10% difficulty increase?!? You wish man. Next one will be at least 20-25% possibly higher.... |
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S3 sales slowing down or production ramping up?
I don't know about the production, but you can bet the sales are slowing down. Counting current diff increase trend 0.66 BTC per miner may very likely never been mined out of them. Probably expect serious BTC miner price reduction for Batch #7. Haha, wrong sir! |
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ANTMINER S3 Batch 7 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 20th, shipping cost included.
No price drop...interesting. Batch one was Only 0.69 after refund. What a deal compared to the current prices! |
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How long does it take BITMAIN to reply to an order???
It has been 5 days since I send them the remittance statement for an order of some S3s.I still havent recieve any feedback from them,not a word.I sent copy of the message,that I got from my bank with my shipping adress.Is this normal?
Bank? What website did u order from? I was in contact with them and I wanted to buy in dollars, so they sent me a bank account number. What was the website? You got scammed dude. |
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I'm home for the summer??? I never said I took the pic at my university.. Lol
I love how you all try to play detective.
Dude, give it up man. No one believes you and now youre just embarrassing yourself. I don't care if you think I'm female or male.. Lol Exactly what a dude would say.... |
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I'm home for the summer??? I never said I took the pic at my university.. Lol
I love how you all try to play detective.
Dude, give it up man. No one believes you and now youre just embarrassing yourself. |
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 I'm dirty blonde if you want to call it that.... Clearly NOT a dorm room |
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Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.
Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.
CX500 is $30 AR not $50. I've bought those and would buy again if I needed a good cheap small PSU. Just like I'd buy EVGA 1300 again if I needed a good cheap powerful PSU. I don't know what Antminer warranty has to do with anything, or living conditions. "Doing it wrong" are your words not mine. See, I don't tell how you should run things, but you seem to be so worried that others are doing it not according to your rules that you resort to calling them "dumb" etc. I will not wish I had spent $20 more, or $40 more as the case might be. I will be happy that I can afford a spare and zero downtime rather than losing revenue while RMAing a "high quality" PSU (yes, those break too). To each their own. You mean the part after they take my legitimate concern of something they should research and insult with sarcastic comments? Yes, if I am telling someone they should look into what they buy instead of saying "its good" because you plug it in and it works, then so be it. There is no point of arguing the quality of a CX500 because it's been done and proven. Mail in rebate is a rebate. You pay $50 today so regardless of the time you wait to receive it does not change the fact $50 left your wallet today. Living conditions has much to do with this. If you have 115 F ambient your components run at different temperatures then someone in Alaska. I doubt you will want to cheap out on a power supply that has components that are cheaper and rated for less temperature Wait really? I always thought a mail in rebate WASNT a rebate. Huh, guess i should have done my research. Anyway, thanks for the insightful info! |
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s
Why do you say that? Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600? Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600. That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail. The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply. Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4. OK...let's make this simple. A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3) The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now. One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago). I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario. Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock. Don't be ignorant and do your own research. You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient. Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.htmlhttp://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cxDon't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in. I ONLY use this to power my single S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:sIf i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement! I heard the sun has a 5 billion year warranty. |
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s
Why do you say that? Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600? Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600. That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail. The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply. Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4. OK...let's make this simple. A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3) The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now. One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago). I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario. Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock. Don't be ignorant and do your own research. You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient. Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.htmlhttp://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cxDon't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in. I ONLY use this to power my single S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:sIf i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement! |
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So its Aug 8th now and my Batch 5 order still hasnt shipped! I have contacted bitmain and no response. I can even still edit my order: Create Time: 2014-07-31 12:40:13.0
Considering that 1) bitmain raised their prices after batch 4 and 2) posted on this forum they were actually shipping early, I find this very concerning. Now i know, that "eventually" ill get them but in this very competitive market everyday counts and as does the word of a trusted company.
So before i get all the "well if you dont like it..." comments, let me just say that all im doing is stating that in my case bitmain did not fulfill its promise. I also know that I cant be the only one. So just an FYI to you all. Bitmain can/does miss its promise shipped dates so plan accordingly. Cheers.
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s
Why do you say that? Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600? Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600. That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail. The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply. Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4. OK...let's make this simple. A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3) The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now. One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago). I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario. you want math here http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-1300G2-ATX12V-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407467214&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300cost 188 rebate 20 = 168 for 3 s-3's or 56 for 1 s-3. I paid 155 for mine which was 51.66 an s-1. 10 year warranty. you get 3 years. you pay 29.99 for your first one then 49.99 and 49.99. your total cost 130 my total cost 168. so after I am done with my s-1's I use it for my s-3's feb to july s-1's I still have 9 plus years warranty. These will be used for years to mine. how long is your warranty? I use 1 power cord. you use 3 power cords. I get a quality psu trick switch which means if I burn up my house I can sue them. you use a paper clip good luck with that in a court of law. hey you want cx500's cool enjoy them. you pull how much power to run at a 237 over clock ? I pull 365 watts and can run 3 s-3's if I want Wow, easily one of the worst posts here. You cant sue companies based outside the US... |
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s
Why do you say that? Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600? Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600. That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail. The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply. Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4. I am running an overclocked s3 on a cx500 right now. 14 days and its fine...so.... |
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