I'm uploading a synced win x64 blockchain on the right fork to mega just now, will be done in ~35 mins. I'll post the link here when uploaded.

I am trying to sync my 12-day old windows x64 blockchain. It ended up on the wrong fork the first time but I'm trying again. If it syncs properly I'll upload it for everyone.

I was waiting for someone to post this! No doubt Hexah will just ignore this blatant evidence of anti-XMR shilling as he has done every time in the past.

So would you say Bytecoin is a better investment? 

Your wallet should sync to the correct fork if I correctly understand what fluffypony has said. If you're concerned about ending up on the wrong fork then back up your blockchain file before starting to sync.

What, making up stories to scare the masses? Sounds like religion to me alright! 

 

Your posts should be moved to the trashcan. Why don't you just blacklist this thread and never return if you think Monero is such a 'shitcoin'?

Thankfully the Monero team (not to be confused with the original dev that launched Bitmonero) were on the ball and released optimised miners as soon as they were able to. This was all done while the total number of coins emitted was still pretty low, so the overall impact of that early period of scammyness was minimised.

Wow, such insight. Thank you for that valuable contribution to this discussion.

There is actually a tl;dr in the OP btw:

Hah yeah. From the article it also seems that that miner dumped all the XMR to BTC and then USD. This will have had the effect of ensuring an even fairer distribution amongst those who weren't mining, unless it was just one person buying the whole lot up (which I seriously doubt).

The main concern with pre/instamines is that someone could be sitting on a significant % (30%+) of all the coins in circulation, which could completely crash the market and make the coin worthless should they decide to cash out. Which isn't even remotely the situation here.

I think it's more a case of a lot of the 'core' team devs also need to work in order to, you know, feed themselves and pay bills etc. So work on Monero has to fit around that. If they had more donations, they could spend more time focusing on Monero or pay other developers to work on details whilst they coordinate the effort. Unless you think they should just work for free/pay developers out of their own pockets because they owe it to you somehow?

This is what happens with a 'fair launch' where the developer hasn't pre/insta-mined a lot of the coin themselves. The only Monero they will have is from their own mining endeavours and any donations they receive, so they're not sitting on a mountain of coin they can sell fund development.

It's like the tides. Money goes in, money goes out. Never a miscommunication, you can't explain that.

1. I don't think you can get the deterministic seed for 'old-style' wallets, only for ones created in newer versions. You can always create a new wallet and then transfer any funds over from your old one though.
2. Same as above, its a new feature that's not been present in old style ones.
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4. Since you don't have the deterministic 24-word seed, you need to keep the .keys file backed up. If you create a new wallet (just copy the binaries to a new folder and run them), it will create a new wallet and give you the 24-word seed and viewkey. You can choose to then back up the .keys file, save the paper key somewhere safe, or both.

Note that I'm not sure how the 24-word seed works with wallet passwords. I still have an old-style wallet so I've never used the word seed before. Not sure if you just need the seed (like Electrum) or if you need both seed + password.

I like how you conveniently ignore the fact that it was pointed out, on the previous page, that your account was registered less than 4 minutes after someone who you just happened to be agreeing with. Way back in January too, what are the chances?

Not really doing your credibility in this thread any favours if I'm honest with you.

That's from the darknet paper though, not the CryptoNote website. The fact that the date is based on the host computer basically means it can't be trusted because someone can easily change their system clock. Since we have no historical record of the darknet site, it's possible someone could have gone back and 'fixed' the dates using a correct version of latex after this thread was posted. If a hacker really did manage to gain access to the Cryptonote site they could have planted much more 'conclusive' false evidence than a messed up whitepaper.

Oh... Ok so the signing time on the darknet paper could easily have been faked too. All you'd need to do is set your system clock.

The only motivation I can imagine for this would be to discredit CryptoNote/CN coins as Hexah suggested. Maybe I'm not seeing every angle to the situation but it's hard to envision what else a nefarious actor would have to gain from illegitimately controlling the CryptoNote.org domain. Spread dissent from within and the whole community destroys itself.

act now, thank you for doing this analysis. Certainly raises some questions regarding the 'forged dates' basis of a large part of this discussion, and suggests that the (original) v.1 may indeed have been created in late 2012.

What I now don't understand is why bother doing a line-by-line copy to 'forge' the whitepapers when you could just download and rehost the original PDFs?  The only conclusion that I can come to is someone trying to discredit the CN team. Does anyone else have any possible theories? What I would really like is for one of the original Cryptonote developers to identify themselves and speak out publicly on this issue.

I don't really want to weigh in on the whole BCN/BBR/DCN/etc conspiracy and I feel that the developers of those coins are free to do whatever they want, provided they're not trying to scam people. I also feel it's best for everyone if we keep this civil and don't attack each other/each other's coin of preference, but as is always the case with discussions on the internet, it's not possible to stop everyone from doing this as people get emotionally invested. Live and let live is my attitude.

Disclosure: I hold (a relatively small) amount of XMR, but I want to see the Cryptonote technology flourish. It's hard to see how anyone could come out on top after a 'scorched earth' situation that this could easily result in.

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So yeah seems the 'real' v1 could just as easily have been backdated.

The coins will have arrived in BTER's wallet. Make sure you provide their support with the transaction ID (TXID) and hopefully, given the circumstances, they'll credit your account. Since they will actually have your coins, they just won't know who's they are.

100 BTC buy wall has popped up @0.002 over on Poloniex, seems to have pushed the price up a bit from a low of 0.00235 to 0.00265.