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I'm curious about indiemaps's anti-socialism prerequisities. If there's one socialist, does he automatically reject the open source project? Or does one free market-proponent and one socialist cancel out? Is there a weighting function? So many questions.
![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ROFL Weighting function. But seriously folks... As posted above, I was told on twitter by @monerocurrency that "most people in our team have a similar opinion", and I assumed this included the "liking socialism" part they also tweeted. All views should be respected and you guys can do what you want, it's just that I don't have to hold your coin (free market of crypto....for the moment). What I want now is a good exit strategy... Edit: I see the twitter will be tightened up. Given his views, I don't trust a coin with the state socialist David Latapie as developer or promoter. This may seem extreme, but again, I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here... Edit 2: No teenager, I am a 30-something with unbelievable angst.
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September 01, 2014, 06:01:01 AM |
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XMR crashed -13%. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) XMR is and BBR are currently in a massive uptrend from 17 Aug. Fixed it for you. Not sure why you accidentally forgot to mention BBR. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 01, 2014, 06:03:57 AM |
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XMR crashed -13%. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) XMR is and BBR are currently in a massive uptrend from 17 Aug. Fixed it for you. Not sure why you accidentally forgot to mention BBR. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Maybe because BBR was in a downtrend for most of that period? Maybe because this is the XMR thread not the BBR thread? I'm not sure which.
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September 01, 2014, 06:05:29 AM |
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Given his views, I don't trust a coin with the state socialist David Latapie as developer or promoter. This may seem extreme, but again, I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here...
That is a fair point of view. You are entitled your own beliefs on the matter.
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September 01, 2014, 06:15:40 AM |
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XMR crashed -13%. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) XMR is and BBR are currently in a massive uptrend from 17 Aug. Fixed it for you. Not sure why you accidentally forgot to mention BBR. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Of your two assertions, that one was the only one that was factually and knowingly false. Your "fix" make them two factually and knowingly false assertions, for a rate of 100% factually and knowingly assertions. You are the definition of a troll and welcome to ignoreland.
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September 01, 2014, 06:19:27 AM |
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Given his views, I don't trust a coin with the state socialist David Latapie as developer or promoter. This may seem extreme, but again, I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here...
That is a fair point of view. You are entitled your own beliefs on the matter. Many brilliant coders are socialists. They are over-specialized in one domain to the detriment of others. Vanishingly few of us can be true Renaissance Men like Leonardo da Vinci or Satoshi Nakamoto. Don't worry about it. They will learn and evolve, in time. Or they will perish in the aftermath of petrodollar collapse. In either case, micromanaging the beliefs of others is not a very libertarian activity. That's the biggest flaw of the Randroids and many anarchists. "Put down the twitter feed David Latapie, and surrender in the name of the Anarchist Objectivist Thought Police!"
'Wait, whut...I don't even...?'
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September 01, 2014, 06:37:55 AM |
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In either case, micromanaging the beliefs of others is not a very libertarian activity. That's the biggest flaw of the Randroids and many anarchists.
I very much enjoyed your response....but I hope it's clear that I am doing no such micromanaging. Believe as you wish, and I will invest as I wish.... Live and let hodl. But we are talking about an anonymous cryptocurrency here, man! It needs to be free from backdoors, compromised developers, and any kind of state surveillance. David Latapie may be a brilliant developer....but I do not trust him for the task at hand.
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September 01, 2014, 07:04:47 AM |
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Live and let hodl.
Wise words and very relevant to the ongoing unnecessary spat between anonymous coins.
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September 01, 2014, 07:35:54 AM |
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Edit: I see the twitter will be tightened up. Given his views, I don't trust a coin with the state socialist David Latapie as developer or promoter. This may seem extreme, but again, I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here...
David Latapie is mainly a free marketer, he just don't understand few part of the free market economy...
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September 01, 2014, 07:55:36 AM |
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In either case, micromanaging the beliefs of others is not a very libertarian activity. That's the biggest flaw of the Randroids and many anarchists.
I very much enjoyed your response....but I hope it's clear that I am doing no such micromanaging. Believe as you wish, and I will invest as I wish.... Live and let hodl. But we are talking about an anonymous cryptocurrency here, man! It needs to be free from backdoors, compromised developers, and any kind of state surveillance. David Latapie may be a brilliant developer....but I do not trust him for the task at hand. Glad you enjoyed my creative writings. Didn't mean to accuse you of thought policing, just wanted to crack a silly joke to lighten the mood and stir the pot. The great thing about open source is that we don't have to trust DL nor anybody else. The code is the code, personalities are just a sideshow. I agree about hlod and let hlod. EG, when a certain pool operator started feeling and acting entitled to the work of private mining software creators, I left his pool and never looked back. I didn't milk the event for drama, I just did it. That my new pool worked much better was just gravy on top! We individualists are superior to socialists, and can afford to indulge them when convenient. Try to be compassionate and raise them up. It's to all of our benefit that they be gently deprogrammed and repurposed for the common good. Consider them raw materials and refine as needed! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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September 01, 2014, 08:03:06 AM |
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Jump you fuckers! | The thing about smart motherfuckers is they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers. | My sig space for rent for 0.01 btc per week.
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September 01, 2014, 09:00:35 AM |
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Hello to all!
Not been here for a summer vacations time. Does anybody knows why last monero missive @ Aug 16, so two weeks have been passed without a missive? Something wrong?
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September 01, 2014, 11:03:09 AM Last edit: September 01, 2014, 11:15:35 AM by equipoise |
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I wrote to a small exchange with /USD pairs based in Hong Kong. I'm not convinced with their security, but I've done some successful withdraws (EDIT: somewhat slow - 1-4 hours delays with manual confirmations from the admins). I wrote them mainly because of the XMR/USD pair they could add: Dear Crypto-trade Team, Last 3 months there is an unequal cryptocurrency on the market. It's called Monero (XMR) and it's different codebase and not a Bitcoin clone. It's using ring signatures and stealth addresses to achieve unlinkable and intractable transactions ant it's here to become the cryptocurrency of the future. If you research it you'll find that there is no other cryptocurrency to achieve even near to the privacy incorporated in the XMR protocol (excluding 80+% premine CryptoNight Bytecoin and also excluding other 6-7 proven scam projects of CryptoNight - see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0). There is no premine or ninjamine and it's the fairest launch possible. From it's start it's always in the first 4-10 on trading volume from all the coins (see coinmarketcap) and it's here to stay. It's not a pump and dump coin and it have a huge amount of Bitcoin early adopters in it's community! It's traded on 6-7 altcoin exchanges, but there is still no exchange with XMR/USD pair. My opinion is that if you add it on your exchange it'll be an opportunity for you to be the first and get some volume (possibly more then all the shitcoins you are adding lately). The XMR community is convinced that adding it to an exchange is an exchange decision, so don't expect voting - it's up to you to take the opportunity. Name: Monero (XMR) Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0Source code: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmoneroBest Regards, Z
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September 01, 2014, 12:37:33 PM |
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I wrote to a small exchange with /USD pairs based in Hong Kong. I'm not convinced with their security, but I've done some successful withdraws (EDIT: somewhat slow - 1-4 hours delays with manual confirmations from the admins). I wrote them mainly because of the XMR/USD pair they could add: Dear Crypto-trade Team, Last 3 months there is an unequal cryptocurrency on the market. It's called Monero (XMR) and it's different codebase and not a Bitcoin clone. It's using ring signatures and stealth addresses to achieve unlinkable and intractable transactions ant it's here to become the cryptocurrency of the future. If you research it you'll find that there is no other cryptocurrency to achieve even near to the privacy incorporated in the XMR protocol (excluding 80+% premine CryptoNight Bytecoin and also excluding other 6-7 proven scam projects of CryptoNight - see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0). There is no premine or ninjamine and it's the fairest launch possible. From it's start it's always in the first 4-10 on trading volume from all the coins (see coinmarketcap) and it's here to stay. It's not a pump and dump coin and it have a huge amount of Bitcoin early adopters in it's community! It's traded on 6-7 altcoin exchanges, but there is still no exchange with XMR/USD pair. My opinion is that if you add it on your exchange it'll be an opportunity for you to be the first and get some volume (possibly more then all the shitcoins you are adding lately). The XMR community is convinced that adding it to an exchange is an exchange decision, so don't expect voting - it's up to you to take the opportunity. Name: Monero (XMR) Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0Source code: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmoneroBest Regards, Z There is no premine or ninjamine and it's the fairest launch possible
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1IYnX4u.png&t=665&c=4mADsVIcgc81-Q) If you research it you'll find that there is no other cryptocurrency to achieve even near to the privacy incorporated in the XMR protocol http://boolberry.org/files/Boolberry_Solves_CryptoNote_Issues.pdf (excluding 80+% premine CryptoNight Bytecoin and also excluding other 6-7 proven scam projects of CryptoNight) Oh right, guess I missed the part where the other 6-7 were proven scam projects of 'cryptonight' which is the proof-of-work function by the way... if you add it on your exchange it'll be an opportunity for you to be the first and get some volume (possibly more then all the shitcoins you are adding lately). I think if they weren't scrambling to add XMR already, you just won them over
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September 01, 2014, 12:46:17 PM |
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But James is a legit developer
I am a legit developer, and I resent being classed with James. everything he has put his mind to has come together and come together fast
That is an understatement. He has issued at least one new asset, ipo, or scamcoin every week on average since he joined in December. And a lot of poor fool's money has come together in his bank account very quickly.
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September 01, 2014, 12:52:41 PM |
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I don't have to hold your coin. But I shall for a while as I figure out what to do here... ...I am a 30-something with unbelievable angst.
Too much angst to trust with great wealth, perhaps. Sell me your XMR.
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September 01, 2014, 12:53:40 PM |
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Says this who make the biggest scam in cryptocoin history. LOL.
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September 01, 2014, 01:32:11 PM |
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Says this who make the biggest scam in cryptocoin history. LOL. lol plus he pointed to the article that proves how Monero fixed and forked away from Bytecoin crippled source-code... butthurt is strong on this one, I dont think he read the link. Hah yeah. From the article it also seems that that miner dumped all the XMR to BTC and then USD. This will have had the effect of ensuring an even fairer distribution amongst those who weren't mining, unless it was just one person buying the whole lot up (which I seriously doubt). The main concern with pre/instamines is that someone could be sitting on a significant % (30%+) of all the coins in circulation, which could completely crash the market and make the coin worthless should they decide to cash out. Which isn't even remotely the situation here.
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September 01, 2014, 01:43:36 PM |
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Meh, so now Vitalik feels threatened by Monero? I think we're winning guys!
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