you have edited your edits and not done a very good job.....
like we are going to believe anything you screenshot again!!!
to be fair it looked edited and geared towards being detrimental..... oops
actually all i did was cover up sensitive information to protect my identity, I wonder who else has done this in this thread? Oh wait, every single "proof" document of any purchase shown by davisgreen or bohan contains edits... So by your own logic any proof that has been posted about confirmed deals, etc is also a lie |
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you havent proved your legitimacy, you have sent an email, 3 weeks ago and got a reply.
your email sounds to informal for a real deal, they were getting inundated with calls and emails
havnet you tried to contact them again recently?
Yes, actually I have. I tried to follow up on the 18th and got the same response. Its like 2 posts up where I stated this already... I provided them once again with all of the necessary information that I was told I needed to place an order. I told them that if they can answer some questions that our legal team brought up to their satisfaction that we would go through with the purchase of 25000 URO and gladly place an order through them. I got the EXACT same response from them on the 19th as I did on the 5th That isn't mentioned in your email however. You mention you're interested in investing in crypto currencies. Your inquiry was vague at best. his reply was the 5th??..... sent his email the 6th??? I accidentally screenshotted my reply from the 6th to their response to my first email on the 5th . I apologize for that. My first email lacked some information that I was told that would be needed but was almost identical to the one i sent on the 6th. I will post screenshot...and that was why I figured they replied the way they did. So I sent them a reply on the 6th containing EVERYTHING they needed to verify my legitimacy and they did not ever respond to it  as you can see, i only provided links to my investment group in the first email. In my reply to them on the 6th I provided them with links to Bank statements, passport information, importer affiliation and notarized affidavits from our legal dept, which for obvious reasons I had to leave out of the screenshot edit: i know i didnt cover up the bottom link so please be kind and if you figure out what it is do not post it here. I dont mind if you look at the site but I dont want it posted. I should clean it up in a minute |
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Sorry- I made a edit which I think u missed.
So I see that u sent a reply on 6th to ges.
What's there reply for that one ( ur email which is in the screen shot)
Is it similar... can we please see.
Thanks.
They did not reply again so I decided to wait a couple weeks. A lack of response is very unprofessional for a venture of this magnitude so I was quite offended that I was ignored by them. Once I cooled down and tried to engage them again, providing them once again with all of the information they needed to fulfill an order except proof of the 25000 URO, but they sent me the same damn reply from two weeks ago. |
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you havent proved your legitimacy, you have sent an email, 3 weeks ago and got a reply.
your email sounds to informal for a real deal, they were getting inundated with calls and emails
havnet you tried to contact them again recently?
Yes, actually I have. I tried to follow up on the 18th and got the same response. Its like 2 posts up where I stated this already... I provided them once again with all of the necessary information that I was told I needed to place an order. I told them that if they can answer some questions that our legal team brought up to their satisfaction that we would go through with the purchase of 25000 URO and gladly place an order through them. I got the EXACT same response from them on the 19th as I did on the 5th |
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Thanks a lot for this.
I will personally raise this with Bohan and will try for him to contact you personally.
If possible you can please pm me ur email address.if tht is ok with you.
Regards
Thanks for the offer but I was really just trying to raise a point and perhaps if Bohan or someone actually connected to GES can answer my questions I might agree to your proposition. Unfortunately I am too skeptical to give out my company or personal emails, even through PMs. As nothing has been proven to me that could convince me that any of my information is safe after emailing it to GES |
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  So, even after I proved the legitimacy of myself and my investors, lawyers, importers and port of call they still have the audacity to say that any investment should be "based off my own confidence" ?!?! From that response, my confidence level dropped to 0. They cant even take a call from me even though I provided all the required information because of the "annoying" callers... HUGE RED FLAG, my attorney said to investigate that ASAP And from my later correspondence with them on the 18th of August and receiving the exact same reply, it somehow dropped even lower. Also, i thought they only had one HK location, thier reply suggests that there are 3? How can this be true if only one has been sort of verified? |
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This thread is mostly for the lulz. If u seriously have some serious question then I would suggest you ask them here https://answers.launchpad.net/uro/+addquestion( on another note- i hope you don't mind putting atleast a screenshot of the email reply you got from ges - i don't think that is too much to ask- thanks for your co-operation ) ill take it right now, gimme a few minutes to upload it |
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To buy urea with uro-
Here is what u need.
Min. 12500 uro
Anywhere between 400-700k usd for shipping cost (depending upon the port of loading and port of discharge)
Importers licence.
Lawyers
Minimum of 125k usd for offloading the the urea from the ship.
Resources to package the urea- transport it to the warehouse. (or a buyer who would buy ur urea once unloaded from the ship)
Please arrange all this, Not just 12500 uro from bittrex. And I am sure once you arrange all this you will know that u get insurance on most of the stuff in case ur urea is not delivered.
( take it as a joke ;- now show me the proof that you have all the things mentioned above and I will help you out to get your urea- without it, I am really sorry)
I have already sent this information TWICE to the GES email address provided. Why the hell would I give it to you if youre not even affiliated with GES and cant even answer any simple questions? As I have stated previously, their reply both times was that I should "invest with confidence" I provided them with very sensitive information and they cannot even give me a phone contact or a case representative. And to reply to corather or whoever it was that said I should do my own research, I have, and am still currently trying to do just that, I have combed through every file posted and every link in this thread and still have unanswered questions. I find it rather shady that people trying to get more information by asking questions to gather more data are told that they should do it themselves. What the fuck is this thread for if not to help people gather information? Was it created to tell people to gather the information by themselves? I think not. Now stop deflecting and give me some information, at least about why GES cannot give me a coherent reply after I have met every single one of their requirements, down to the importer and port for offloading and my personal passport, the links to my lawyers, with notarized copies of their affidavits stating that they represent me. What else do they want? And more importantly what are they doing with this if they are not trying to arrange a deal with me??? |
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Hobo's research regarding MEGA STAR was totally wrong. MEGA STAR never carried urea for IPL. I informed hobo about this through pm and next day I woke up to see that he has deleted his thread. MEGA STAR did not carry urea for IPL instead it was a STC urea http://www.stc.gov.inhttp://www.argusmedia.com/fertilizer/~/media/files/pdfs/samples/argus-fmb-nitrogen.ashx - page 6 Loadings under the STC 18 June tender are almost complete. Aries’ first vessel, m/v Hai Lu has sailed and Rare Earth’s vessel m/v Fratzescos is also en route for India. Fertisul’s vessel m/v Kalpana Prem had loaded 61,000t at presstime and was expected to complete on 1 August. Aries’ second vessel, m/v Fu Tong, is expected to complete loading 59,000t 1-2 August. Both suppliers asked STC for extension of shipment date by 3-4 days. Transglobe loaded
66,000t in Iran on the Mega Star, which is showing eta 4
August in Pipavav. http://www.stc.gov.in/Templates/UI/Views/OpenPDF.aspx?id=UREA11062014.pdfwell which one of these was the one paid for with URO? This is what we need to know That's what people are trying to find out. You want answers, do some research on your own, maybe you'll find the answer rather than waiting for others to do the work. But Bohan or Nilesh or someone who know these answers should be making it public information. Especially for people who are... scratch that, were trying to invest like myself. So far GES has not answered any questions I have put forth to them and I am getting the same treatment here. Everyone is firmly claiming URO is legit without any solid proof other than all this stuff nobody can verify. I just came back today to find out if anyone knows why the GES email account will not acknowledge me with any reply other than "invest with confidence" and to figure out if anyone knows whats the real deal with the shipping issues and I get the same thing truthful gets, without the insults at least. Why can't people answer questions instead of resorting to saying that I should answer them myself. I don't have time for that, that's why I asked them! If nobody can answer ANY of the questions that anyone here has put forth then why or how can you guys sit there and inist that URO is worth 1mt urea? I do not understand |
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Hobo's research regarding MEGA STAR was totally wrong. MEGA STAR never carried urea for IPL. I informed hobo about this through pm and next day I woke up to see that he has deleted his thread. MEGA STAR did not carry urea for IPL instead it was a STC urea http://www.stc.gov.inhttp://www.argusmedia.com/fertilizer/~/media/files/pdfs/samples/argus-fmb-nitrogen.ashx - page 6 Loadings under the STC 18 June tender are almost complete. Aries’ first vessel, m/v Hai Lu has sailed and Rare Earth’s vessel m/v Fratzescos is also en route for India. Fertisul’s vessel m/v Kalpana Prem had loaded 61,000t at presstime and was expected to complete on 1 August. Aries’ second vessel, m/v Fu Tong, is expected to complete loading 59,000t 1-2 August. Both suppliers asked STC for extension of shipment date by 3-4 days. Transglobe loaded
66,000t in Iran on the Mega Star, which is showing eta 4
August in Pipavav. http://www.stc.gov.in/Templates/UI/Views/OpenPDF.aspx?id=UREA11062014.pdfwell which one of these was the one paid for with URO? This is what we need to know |
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I can see why truthful gets so angry tho. I posed legit concerns and questions and they were not answered but merely deflected with confusing info to seemingly bury the questions
Not to mention someone banned me from the IRC for asking why the replys from the GES email account would never answer my questions or even acknowledge the fact that I sent them a completed order request form...
If they have all of this information about me and my company/partners and affiliations with my importer, what are they doing with it?
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Im referring to the shipment that you said was picked up by the Mega Star from Iran two weeks ago and supposedly paid for in URO. Are you saying that that didnt happen? I dont get it. Im not trying to FUD but all this conflicting info about which ships are carrying urea is only jumbling up any research that we can do. Please just be more clear For people who say that GES is not involved in this thread and does not read it, it sure seems like a few people here are getting info from GES and someone from GES is obviously having you guys place these "easter eggs" that make proving anything a wild goose chase |
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Its also quite a tell that hobopetes page now just says "over"
We see this every day in the business world. Someone makes an accusation. Someone tries to prove or disprove the accusation but finds evidence that the accusation is truth. So the accused pays off the person with the info so that they dont release it.
Im not saying this is what happened, but can someone tell me what happened there?
I think Pete just got tired with arguing with a moron. Truthful kept debating over whether or not you need a lawyer to file bankruptcy and no matter what was posted to counter that claim from both me and Pete, as in facts from the website truthful was posting, he misinterpreted legalese and still doesn't understand the mechanics of bankruptcy law. So I think Pete just got fed up and left. Why bother trying when the facts are misunderstood. quibbling over the aspects of bankruptcy just distracts from the real issues, but technically an individual does not need an attorney, only corporations do... even though it is pretty stupid to not hire one. I thought he was trying to track ships and find out if the shipments are legit. Why would an argument with some guy over legalese make him stop when he was actually on to something??? Seems there is more at work than this I think you're grasping for straws. so youre telling me that someone doing important research that would be a great service to everyone who wants this information would just jump ship (like my pun?) because of a semantic argument? I think you are the one grasping |
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Its also quite a tell that hobopetes page now just says "over"
We see this every day in the business world. Someone makes an accusation. Someone tries to prove or disprove the accusation but finds evidence that the accusation is truth. So the accused pays off the person with the info so that they dont release it.
Im not saying this is what happened, but can someone tell me what happened there?
I think Pete just got tired with arguing with a moron. Truthful kept debating over whether or not you need a lawyer to file bankruptcy and no matter what was posted to counter that claim from both me and Pete, as in facts from the website truthful was posting, he misinterpreted legalese and still doesn't understand the mechanics of bankruptcy law. So I think Pete just got fed up and left. Why bother trying when the facts are misunderstood. quibbling over the aspects of bankruptcy just distracts from the real issues, but technically an individual does not need an attorney, only corporations do... even though it is pretty stupid to not hire one. I thought he was trying to track ships and find out if the shipments are legit. Why would an argument with some guy over legalese make him stop when he was actually on to something??? Seems there is more at work than this |
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Its also quite a tell that hobopetes page now just says "over"
We see this every day in the business world. Someone makes an accusation. Someone tries to prove or disprove the accusation but finds evidence that the accusation is truth. So the accused pays off the person with the info so that they dont release it.
Im not saying this is what happened, but can someone tell me what happened there?
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Wait, so Mega Star wasn't even the right boat? Why the fuck did you all post so much about it's activity and make more claims of UROs legitimacy with this as proof, then come out and say "oh that was not the right ship"
I am still waiting for a reply from GES or whoever is behind that email account. I sent them ALL of the required information (twice actually), affiliations, passport copies. Shit I wouldnt even give my tax guy... but still their only reply to date was "invest with confidence"
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Shut up Bitcycle.
Nope. Coinasaur is not acting in good faith, and I will respond to him accordingly. Well I will agree, first Coinasaur asks about buying fertilizer directly and then changes the subject about wanting to invest in urocoin so that's a bit suspect. Don't shut up Bitcycle but use a little more diplomacy maybe?  No, I asked about how I would go about getting the fertilizer once I was to purchase the Uro. I have not changed any subject, you guys are the ones doing that. All I'm asking is that the GES rep who contacted me give me a way to verify that what I have been told was true. Their reply was that I should "invest in good faith" which is not reassuring at all... But since you guys like to attack people asking legitimate questions you are making me stray off course with your attempts to shift the topic away from the real questions I am asking. Edit: Its 10pm here. Time for bed. I will update in the morning if GES replies with something other than a generic auto response this time... Where'd you go? No update on your multi-million dollar profit deal? I was so anxious. I totally believed you were sincere. I just got home and still have not heard anything after sending two more emails. Even the first one I sent contained everything specified in the contract for them to verify my information. I responded to them again asking who I can speak with and once more just to see if anyone was actually going to reply. A full 24 hours later I still have not gotten a reply. Sorry I could'nt hang around all day and hold your hand, I have had a busy day. Looks like this isn't going to pan out so I'm going to just let it die like it should. |
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Shut up Bitcycle.
Nope. Coinasaur is not acting in good faith, and I will respond to him accordingly. Well I will agree, first Coinasaur asks about buying fertilizer directly and then changes the subject about wanting to invest in urocoin so that's a bit suspect. Don't shut up Bitcycle but use a little more diplomacy maybe? No, I asked about how I would go about getting the fertilizer once I was to purchase the Uro. I have not changed any subject, you guys are the ones doing that. All I'm asking is that the GES rep who contacted me give me a way to verify that what I have been told was true. Their reply was that I should "invest in good faith" which is not reassuring at all... But since you guys like to attack people asking legitimate questions you are making me stray off course with your attempts to shift the topic away from the real questions I am asking. Edit: Its 10pm here. Time for bed. I will update in the morning if GES replies with something other than a generic auto response this time... |
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Well here you go. heres what was sent to me from GES : Thankyou for the email. Our office/s is located in Hong Kong, at this stage we are using a serviced office to deal Urocoin in Central, Hong Kong. We also have 2 other office in Hong Kong. The main reason we are not publishing our phone numbers online is due to alarming numbers of "annoying" phone calls received on daily bases. Please understand that investments in to Urocoin should be based on your own confidence. Follow the latest news and development on URO : https://twitter.com/GESystemsgroup | www.gescommodity.comYours Sincerely, Clifton Tang Sales and Support Green Earth Systems Ltd, Hong Kong So once again, not very inspiring... I asked for contact information and they gave me the email address I already have. A company brokering a deal that would eventually net them a huge gain would put me in touch with someone right away, not tell me that my investment should be "based on confidence." This tells us nothing, not even proper English in the reply. Why would a multi-million dollar entity pull its contact info because of a few "annoying" calls? Because it's Bullshit I replied once again asking for them to put me in touch with somebody other than a sales associate. I bet I get another generic reply. I will keep you posted I notice you didn't include the email you sent them, but based on the response you must have asked why they don't publish a phone number. Did you even mention you're looking to make a deal for urea? It doesn't look like it. Here's an idea- stop theorizing about how you think they should do business and complete the deal you claim you want to do. Why would you let something like what you deem to be improper English keep you from making a ton of money? See how that argument turns right around on you? you should know the facts before you assume that I did not mention that I represent a large group interested in investing in cryptocurrecny. I stated earlier that I would not be releasing that information because I am speaking for a committee of about 10 people and they do not wish the name of our group to be publicly published here until something is finalized. However... since you guys will probably try to pick me apart and defend this coin blindly I will go ahead and show you the edited bulk of the message, which was over 2 pages long I recently came across a topic on a forum that deals with cryptocurrency and found your project to be quite intriguing. I am involved with a group interested in investing some capitol into cryptocurrencies and think that a currency backed by a commodity would be a very wise investment. I brought it up with my investment group at our weekly meeting on (edited) and we came to a unanimous decision to contact you for further details. I have reviewed the contract that was provided to me and given copies to my legal department to review and they came back immediately with a question about the contract. It seems that there are no company contacts for any of the alleged suppliers of the UREA. Before my group plans of investing this kind of capitol I would like to have my lawyers confirm some things. Do you have any contact information for your company other than an email address. That is a huge red flag for the legal dept. here as there would be no recourse for action if the deal fell through. Also, it has been brought to my attention that there is no verification process for the shipment other than a document which is backed by companies that I have been unable to trace to a source. The phone number you have on your website led to a man who would not tell me where he was located and had no idea what Urocoin even was. I would like some more information about your company and some contact information to set up a conference call with my group to clear up any legal issues before we proceed. Are you looking to invest in urocoin itself, or looking to make a purchase with urocoin for urea? Both. I will not, however purchase 12500 URO without getting confirmation from the entities involved, with documented proof (from them, not some guys on a crypto forum) that they are indeed who they claim to be. Since I am unable to trace most of the urea suppliers or people listed as being in charge of the Urea or anyone for that matter, you should understand my reluctance. I understand your concerns and they are legit. There are some things you can do like contact RIVAA and ask them about their dealings with GES and who you can contact directly since they have already signed a deal. Keep in mind you're dealing with an eastern way of doing business. The culture of business is very different there and they won't proceed as you'd expect them too if you're only used to dealing with the western business model. Thats what brought me here, I have been asking to get some contact information for all of these entities as the phone numbers on their websites do not reach the correct dept. or whatever... Nobody here can seem to tell me how to contact anyone other than some random GES email address. which gave me a very auto-generated type of response. And to the guy who said I can't get a .gov email address. I never said it was legal, but they ARE for sale... I also proved a few posts up that it is a piece of cake if you know about domain registry to get a GES email address... I contacted GES again, but if anyone can put me in touch with RIVAA, NIER, Indian Potash or anyone else involved would be a great help |
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I recently came across a topic on a forum that deals with cryptocurrency and found your project to be quite intriguing. I am involved with a group interested in investing some capitol into cryptocurrencies and think that a currency backed by a commodity would be a very wise investment. I brought it up with my investment group at our weekly meeting on (edited) and we came to a unanimous decision to contact you for further details. I have reviewed the contract that was provided to me and given copies to my legal department to review and they came back immediately with a question about the contract.
It seems that there are no company contacts for any of the alleged suppliers of the UREA. Before my group plans of investing this kind of capitol I would like to have my lawyers confirm some things. Do you have any contact information for your company other than an email address. That is a huge red flag for the legal dept. here as there would be no recourse for action if the deal fell through.
Also, it has been brought to my attention that there is no verification process for the shipment other than a document which is backed by companies that I have been unable to trace to a source. The phone number you have on your website led to a man who would not tell me where he was located and had no idea what Urocoin even was.
I would like some more information about your company and some contact information to set up a conference call with my group to clear up any legal issues before we proceed.
Do you always start talking about deals with this approach? I do when our lawyers advised us that this information is suspect... |
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