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https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/1All Core Devs Meeting 8 Agenda Meeting Date/Time: 10/28/2016 1:00PM UTC Meeting Duration 1.5 hours Agenda Please provide comments for proposed agenda topics or corrections to agenda topics. 1. Upcoming HF to clear out state + potentially other changes. Clearing out state EIP 158 by (@vbuterin) EIP 161 by (@gavofyork) EXP Cost Increase EIP 160 by (@vbuterin) Replay attack protection Do we want it in the upcoming HF, Metropolis, or not at all? EIP 134 by @aakilfernandes EIP 155 by @vbuterin "high order bits nonce scheme" coded here by @obscuren Time/Date of HF. 2. EIP/ERC GitHub Organization Improvement Discussion EIP 148 by @axic
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I think its time to buy the the Ethererum it has a great future and will rise more so I think it would be stupid to not buy it. You can better sell it later when the price is higher right, you just need some patient.
The Ethereum price has dropped against the bitcoin in the last few weeks. That is a good time to buy. This is the best time to buy ETH hence it drop its price which is really an opportunity for us to buy even more because it would surely rise up on upcoming months i guess and we could able to secure profits but still just invest on money that you could able to lose anyway because we dont know when price would rise up. Not sure about that. The Ethereum price has not dropped much. So we may wait a bit longer to buy. There will be another hard fork, the price might even drop further. https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/10/13/announcement-imminent-hard-fork-eip150-gas-cost-changes/During the last couple of weeks, the Ethereum network has been the target of a sustained attack. The attacker(s) have been very crafty in locating vulnerabilities in the client implementations as well as the protocol specification. While the recent patches have led to an overall increased resiliency in the client implementations, the attacks have also demonstrated that a lower-level change to the EVM pricing model is needed. For many users, the most visible consequence is probably that they are having difficulties getting transactions included in blocks, and full nodes are facing memory limitations in managing the bloated state. This is our strategy to address these issues: As a temporary measure to minimize the effects of the most recent attack, we recommend all miners to lower the gaslimit to 500K gas. A hard-fork based on EIP 150 version 1c will be put into effect at block 2457000 [see below]. This will reprice certain operations to correspond better to the underlying computational complexity. A second hard-fork will follow shortly after, aimed at reverting the current “state-bloat” introduced by the attacks. This second fork will serve to remove accounts which are empty; lacking code, balance, storage and nonce == 0. We have implemented the changes required in the clients and are currently extending and adding tests in an effort to prevent the introduction of consensus-breaking vulnerabilities. And as a reminder, the Ethereum Bug Bounty is open and includes the new hardfork-implementations. EDIT: Fork block has been moved to 2463000 in order to accommodate even more testing.
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i am not buying it at the moment because it is always risky to buy when the price of ethereum is in a bubble.
instead i will wait for a big or even slow price drop to at least 0.015-0.017 then buy it back.
The current price of 0.021 is certainly higher than the 0.015 you mentioned. But it might not be a bubble. In the short term, the price of the Etheruem might rise in terms of US dollar, but it might drop in terms of bitcoin.
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We seen that the price of ETH is decrease few days ago.. and i think the price right now for ethereum still high and this is still not the right time to sell or even buy because the price is high and if you missed to sell you can sell it right now but there is possibility that the price will hit again back to 14 usd..
The Ethereum price is around $12 now. So it is still rising from a few weeks ago. It is just consolidating now.
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Has been very stable for a few weeks price rise happening anytime soon. Time to buy!
The US dollar price of the ETH and ETC is quite stable. It seems there will not be any dump in the near future.
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I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.
you still expect the price of the dao to grow? i think that right now it is impossible and i would invest into etc instead in order to make profit Please buy some ETC to support the price. It seems the ETC has dropped quite a lot in the last few days. Beyond theives and scammers no right minded morally correct person has any interest in supporting the ETC criminal coin. There is no need to worry about the ETC any more. It will be a independent coin like Expanse or Shift. The main problem of the ETC is that it has some supports and they will fud the Ethereum and cause a lot of problem.
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So far, the Ethereum ETH price is still higher than $10 a few weeks after the hard fork. So there is no race to the exit.
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That is quite big range. But it could be due to the fact that the bitcoin price is too volatile in the past.
The bitcoin price is always volatile. The recent price drop is due to the big hack happening in the Bitfinex.
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According to http://etherscan.io/, Hard Fork Successfully Activated Please ensure that you are running the latest Clients
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Methinks we are going to see distincly sub 10 prices after the fork is implemented, but given the relative stability of the price throughout all this fiasco, I don't expect it to go sub 8. But, we will be in 10 territory for a while. If there is one thing we can depend on, it's the persistence of eth holders ETH is a long term hodl. It should be for all investors. The DAO fiasco has most people having second thoughts about that. The debate about forking wasn't handled well either. I saw votes in the pools. so people can vote there. In terms of debate, many Etheruem trolls do not have Ethererum, but they debate. ETH trolls don't debate. They FUD and hate. I think it waste their lives to troll. If they do not like the hard fork, they can invest in miners and mine the Etheruem Classic.
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In my humble opinion, ETH is done as an investment for a while. It already has grown too much and after recent DAO problems I just can't see it growing more than 20-30%. There are better projects that still didn't get as much price incerase. Take a look at Lisk
It seems the hard fork is quite smooth. So the price could rise again after people become more confident.
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They will hard fork to take funds away, how does this increase confidence as its an attack on the one core aspect of what makes a cryptocurrency a cryptocurrency: no central banks. After the hard fork, people are more confident about the Ethereum. So I think the price will rise as a result.
Investors will get their funds back from the thief, so they will have more confidence in the Ethereum. I don't understand. If the thief sell all prey, how can get back investors their funds? What will happens the people they spend bitcoins for ethereum, dao (or the prey eq) in last days? There will be a hard fork next Wednesday, the investors will get their money back according to the vote by the miners.
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I will just hold my coins tight. If the price double every year, I will not sell as that is just the normal price.
If not? I think the bitcoin price will rise in the long term. It could be between 10 to 1000% every year. Nobody knows exactly.
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It's the first I really got involved with and I really loved the whole concept of Bitcoin hence why I have stayed with it.
Bitcoin is the first coin I mine and accumulate. I like it a lot. I also like the Ethereum, I can mine that and sell it for bitcoin.
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Ya we stray a bit ot from time to time. On the pcie. Reason the 8 pin can deliver more is the extra ground. If you have had a pcie burn it's usually the ground side. Since one wire is used to sense voltage and the other two are ground. That coupled with the fact most psu come with 3 hot wires in the 6 pin pcie. So it can technically feed more thru the 12+ then the ground can return. Yes there is some burnt off as heat but most comes back down the return. And if that isn't the same as the 12+ then you have meltdown. Seen this many times now and that's the best I came up with as to why the 8 pin can deliver so much more and doesnt add anything more other than two more grounds and another voltage sensor.
Best regards d57heinz
Interesting argument for the extra ground, though shouldnt it be 3/2 * 75W = 112.5W for the 8PIN? Btw I have just finished new calc section for this merge mine: http://www.whattomine.com/eth_dcrWill add the new mystery coin as well when released. The 8Pin PCIE connector is rated for 150W each. That is reason for the 7990 rated 375W = 150+150+75.
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Actually other digital currency not in nice value and one question comes to mind that bitcoins will never disappear but other currency is same ? People can not believe on other currency, Bitcoin is genuine digital currency where we can invest our money without tension .
It just so happens that bitcoin somehow pioneered the 'successful cryptocurrency' Bitcoin isn't the first one, but the first successful one. Comparing value alone, that's not enough reason. Usability, adaptability, stability, just a few factors that puts bitcoins above every other altcoins. That is right. Bitcoin has many advantages over the predessor, it is the biggest one. It will also imporove a lot.
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There is no need to worry about the "no price rise for the halving", the price of the bitcoin has already risen.
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It's possible bitcoin price $1000 to 2016 $650 price good sound dude 2016
Yeah if we see around $600 price at halving then $1k is possible to achieve by the end of the year..totally depends on the scenario at the time of halving. The bitcoin price could be $500 to 600 during the halving. After that, the price could be over $1000.
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1000 dollar is in my eyes reachable in 2016 its just a matter of time before the halving price is kicking in and the price rise to a high amount for sure. I think its just a matter of time before the bitcoin is rising to a higher amount and we will make profit!
I hope this will happen, but i am not sure. The price needs to be stable too, and no I don't expect the price to go up just because of the halving. That is right. If there is no demand, the price will not go higher after halving. This happend to many altcoin before.
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1BTC = 1000$ in 2016 = Dream  But for it to hit 500$ - 600+ $ is totally possible by the end of 2016. 1 BTC = 1000$ in 2016 = Dream? i think isn't but we expect price can back to reach $1000 in 2016, this is the last hope if not we need wait next halving in 2020. As said price can go high around $600 to $800 is possible by the end of 2016. At times it may hit $1000, there is no need to wait till next halving if price doesn't reach $1000 because gradually rise in price would take it to $1000 within 4years. I`m sure the average median price will float around the 700 mark up and down. And at worst the price would be back to mid $500 range. But I`m sure 4 years give plenty of time after 78% mined coins to eventually complete all circulation before 4 years to make it hold for a good price. As most quotes it is expected that bitcoin price will reach $800 to $1200. This price increase takes place on halving and before halving days we can expect price around $500 if price is gonna reach $800 or more. It seems the small fish like us think the price will go to $800 or more after halving. I do not know if the big whales agree with this.
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