Well, actually, I wasn't mentioning tether is an issue but for Bitcoin, it is a threat and we have seen it. We may have new tether examples in the future with other stable coins. This is another part of the threat.

Hype ın kripto parayı terk etmesi bence de güzel baya. Hype çünkü çok can yakıyor, insanlar bir an önce zengin olmak için kripto para alıyor ve tecrübesiz yatırımcıların dili çok fena yanıyor, sonrasında tekrardan kriptoya güvenlerini tazelemek zor baya. O yüzden hype yerine düzenli büyüme daha iyi gibi. Zaman zaman hype ın geri döneceğini düşünüyorum, grafiklerden de bunu görebiliyoruz aslında.

One of the reason we use bitcoin is because it is fast and cheap, well, there are other altcoins cheaper and faster surely. Stable coins provide fast and low fee transactions too. On the other hand, daily total max volume is not on bitcoin, it is with tether.

What if we use bitcoin without these backup stable coins? We may need to learn that we can do without these stable coins, we don't need usd or eur or other traditional money. We should start using directly bitcoin rather than its usd value. For example, an apple may cost some satoshi not cents. Apple's cost depends the traditional way, demand and supply and its price can change in return for satoshis. We should remove usd eur and others, stable or not.

Let's discuss the potential effects of stable coins which are bound to usd or eur. We usually use them to avoid the volatility or short bitcoin in a way. There are many stable coins in the last year. By writing threat, I didn't mean issues like tether's issue. I mean, they are not coins, they are just usd and eur.

Hocam ne gerek var söylemeye? Bugüne kadar hangi moderator ya da default trust üyesinin normal bir kullanıcıya yardımcı olduğunu gördün. Ben hiç görmedim, asla yardımcı olmaz sadece aşağılayıcı hareketlerde bulunurlar. Bu nedenle şikayet etme gereği bile duymuyorum zaten verdikleri Bitcoin için de kampanya başladığından beri bize köpek muamelesi çekiyorlar. Biraz Bitcoin biriktiriyorduk hevesimizin anasını zktiler afedersin. Biz sanki burada verilecek üç kuruş doların peşindeyiz, 2100 için Bitcoin biriktiriyoruz adamlar it muamelesi çekiyor kampanya başladığından beri.

Bu kampanyaya katıldıktan sonra hiçbir mesajım spam ya da off-topic olmamasına rağmen biri tarafından şikayet edildi ve globaldeki moderator 13 Ekim civarı 81 adet mesajımı sildi. Her yorumum konu ile alakalı ve aralarında zaman vardı yani infrequently olarak atıldı ama globaldeki moderator ne yaptı? Sadece ben Bitcoin biriktiremeyeyim diye bir anda 81 adet mesajımı sildi ki Yobit panelinden de kazandığım her şey silinsin. Bu forum böyle kötü, böyle boş bir forum haline geldi. Eğer mesajlarım kötü, sık veya off-topic olsaydı yahoo beni kampanyadan atardı ama öyle bir şey olmamasına rağmen globaldeki moderator sürekli olarak mesajlarımı siliyor. Ben de en sonunda banlanacağım diye 13 Ekim'den beri mesaj atmıyorum.

Bunların neresi off-topic? Bu kadar egoist üyelerin DT ve moderator olması bu forumun ne kadar çok merkezi bir hal aldığı anlamına geliyor. Yereldeki moderator sağ olsun bugüne kadar bize insan muamelesi yaptı ama globaldeki moderatorler kesinlikle art niyetli davranıyor. Bir insanın bu mesajları silmesi için sadist olması gerekiyor.

We can have decentralized exchanges and let the community handle the issues with markets. I have seen that some centralized exchanges not only manipulate the prices but also sell tokens-coins that they don't even have in their wallets. When you try to withdraw, they can't send it. We need to inform each other about these false things and manipulations, this is how we deal with these exchanges.

Let me explain myself a little bit more. Surely with a decentralized community, we can, should discuss anything including regulations, bakkt, etfs, libra etc. Focusing more on mass adoption is with decentralization. Bitcoin is created against the governments' printing money. Well, look now, governments are trying to 'code' money and using their power to influence people, they can achieve this. Some of the people in the community haven't met the decentralization idea. We should spread our ideas to them and be in front of the eyes more than the governments.

We are open minded but we should inform the community about what decentralization truly means. We should do this before the goverments and other big companies create alternative centralized coins. Facebook may not be forcing us to use Libra but they have a huge power to make advertisements of their coin. This doesn't seem fair to me. On the contrary, we should act as a whole and spread the decentralized coins.

What if we lose the community and the idea of decentralization? Change is hard, when it is about something that most of the people don't know, it is harder. I mean decentralization. When we have etf and libra or something that has regulations, we may lose the community. They may prefer libra or grams instead of bitcoin because these provide regulations etc.

The way that we are going, I don't like it. It is the opposite of what Satoshi Nakamoto wants. If it is about the price, then maybe we should need a decrease for the price which seems unlikely. I think we need a more solid community and more decentralized platform, exchanges etc. Or we may lose our coins because people may prefer the other centralized ones.

The topic describes the issue for us. For us to become a decentralized, we should focus more on mass adoption. I know these may provide some mass adoption but with centralized adoption, it is useless and contradiction for bitcoin itself.

We have a saying in our language. It is "if there is a smoke, there has to be a fire. Since China is trying to ban-crack down bitcoin, this means that there are people in their countr who want to have bitcoin. This is a good sign for us in terms of mass adoption. People in China are trying to have some freedom. For bitcoin, through its system, it can't be fully banned. China can't ban buying people bitcoin. So, nothing to worry for their actions.

Money means lots of things for the human beings. On the other hand, money means many things for the dictators because they need money to control people through force. The dictators can take our money through printing money and increasing inflation or taxes. We, the majority, even won't be noticing this for a long time. Through cryptocurrencies, goverments and dictators can't print anyting and they can take our money. So, most of their power will be lost.

We didn't broke below 7500 and instead, we broke out 8500$ with a high volume. I think we will be here for more, this period seems like an accumulation period. So, this is probably not going to 5000$  currently. On the other hand, with fundamental analysis, we will have another important halving in the near future. This will create a buying power and therefore we won't be going down to 5000$.

It is okay to have a bear season for alts that is lasting a lot. It is good because the ones which survive will be the best altcoins. Their future is determined in these hard times such as the halving of Bitcoin. Altcoins may suffer more until the halving.

I had a same issue, worked so much and got only 50$ in return. When I said it wasn't fair and it is slavery hourly rate, the so called admins told me that it is worth to be in part of the competition-bounty and learning process. They are losing a lot when they use us as slaves. In return, I tell everywhere about them and this is not good for them for sure.

There is an interesting sociology theory which is tragedy of commons. I have another view for this theory, in a society, people who are consuming the goods more than the others, there are these people all the time by the way, common ones suffer from this. So, there is a fact that there are always who consumes more than others, this is inevitable. Being rich can be applied to this theory. For a person to be rich, he/she has to do different things than the others, think more and be smart for example, in the end, they consume more than the other through their money. So, if you want to be rich, you shouldn't be a 'common' or you suffer.

Then I want to ask if we really believe in cryptocurrencies or not. Because, the idea of decentalization for me starts with bitcoin. If we don't think that we will not get decentralization, being here doesn't make much sense. As I said, this is a contradiction and we first need to overcome this in order to move on to the next one.