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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Nibble - Real Currency - 5/19/2013 12AM UTC [UPDATED RELEASE] on: May 19, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
cgminer.exe --scrypt --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 19 -g 1 -o 127.0.0.1:8551 -u enterhere -p x  -s 1 --expiry 1 --queue 0 -w 256  


Easy as pie. Actually faster than setting up a pool by the time you join add worker etc.


Setting up solo mining is much more complicated than any other form of mining.
Yes, if you've done it before.
nmap shows port open, port responds as intended (HTTP server) but logins fail.

strange
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Nibble - Real Currency - 5/19/2013 12AM UTC [UPDATED RELEASE] on: May 19, 2013, 03:37:06 PM

Easy as pie. Actually faster than setting up a pool by the time you join add worker etc.


Setting up solo mining is much more complicated than any other form of mining.
Yes, if you've done it before.
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Nibble - Real Currency - 5/19/2013 12AM UTC [UPDATED RELEASE] on: May 19, 2013, 03:33:43 PM
Setting up solo mining is much more complicated than any other form of mining.
404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Nibble - Real Currency - 5/19/2013 12AM UTC [UPDATED RELEASE] on: May 19, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Penalizing early adopters?  You think it will ever take off if you do that?

Good luck...

That's even Anathema to the bitcoin mantra
405  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 17, 2013, 06:00:43 AM
Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

Josh claimed last year in November that they've sent a unit to the FCC and are waiting for approval.

A lot of folks here in the forum pointed out that:
- this was another one of Josh/Inabas lies, because at that time they didn't have a prototype - let alone a working product.
- there are no records at FCC for such an application for approval.
They've also updated the designs how many times now since November? Whoops!
406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 17, 2013, 02:45:21 AM
Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

Isn't it only an issue if they ship product? If so, BFL is in the clear!  Grin
They have shipped a few sales units to reviewers haven't they?

Of course they also have about 1 wafer worth of chips earmarked for their own employees right off the bat.
407  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 17, 2013, 02:38:53 AM
Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC
408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales on: May 14, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Haha i didn't even include the 200 - 1000 TH/Sec that Bitfury is bringing online this summer between chip sales and 100TH/sec miner

and MtGox just got raided - Can't move USD out.  BTC:USD crash incoming

409  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: May 14, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
Propably there's nothing new. Bitfury is awaiting first prototypes. He expect to recive bare wafers on may 16th. And there's another few days to package chips. Then assembly them onto PCB and test. My guess is that we may expect some news at the end of the month.
And then remember literally everything is in russian.
410  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 14, 2013, 07:43:12 PM
AM has connections with Avalon In China?  Shared IP between chips and designs?
411  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales on: May 14, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
Asicminer is brinigng online THEIR OWN 262 TH/sec over the next 3 months

Avalon is shipping 200 TH/sec worth of Chips in 2 months

BFL will add anything between 0 and 400+ TH/sec
412  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales on: May 14, 2013, 02:30:53 AM
You literally are betting on Avalon not delivering chips.  That's the ONLY way this makes any sense at all.

Oh- DUH.  ASICMiner needs people buying BTC to keep their profits up.  What happens when there's nothing left worth buying with BTC instead of "not-BTC"?  What happens when SR goes down for a month?

They have to try and spur buy orders for BTC.

Not at this price though.
413  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 14, 2013, 01:38:15 AM
They have no FCC certification.  Nothing is on file.

So I've recently found, which is quite interesting. I've opened a case with the FCC to confirm.
Even worse for them as they've already shipped units in what appears to be a knowing violation.
414  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 13, 2013, 03:05:36 AM
47 C.F.R. 15.1b for starters, unless they already have it licensed (I have seen nothing to that end except some empty talk many months ago)

My guess is that they've already passed this part...given that essentially any electronic device has to pass it before going to market. If they didn't get past this, do you really think they'd send out an "illegal" device to dozens of media outlets?

Anything else, or was this your only thought on "many broken laws and regulations"?
You just want to hear what you want to hear.

Anything contradictory will be ignored by you.

Your mental framing needs adjustments.

If only that were true...I'm more than happy to acknowledge serious arguments, but the problem is I very rarely get any. Saying "BFL has broken so many laws and regulations" without pointing out anything of substance is not an argument.

And, as usual, I see you have absolutely nothing to add to the argument Puerto..just more conspiracy theories and "scam scam scam". As I've noted before: Point out the specific laws that BFL has broken, and I will show you why you're wrong. Simple as that.
They have no FCC certification.  Nothing is on file.
415  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 13, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
ecliptic,
You got me to thinking.

I will have to look up that pic, to see if there is a significant difference in footprint.
If i remember correctly, BFL has a little daughterboard PCB that the ASIC themselves mount to, that daughterboard is then soldered to their main PCB.
416  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 12, 2013, 11:45:55 PM
How do they hash at 10x the speed of Avalon with the same chip technology?
(110 nm)

I don't recall, I believe it was grnbrg, one of the early receivers of Jally's posted pix that showed 2 ASICs in the 5 GH machine.

I wish that BFL would have taken the OTHER characteristic from Avalon.
They emulate the same mentality toward their customers (a sense of superiority, a condescending attitude) .
I wish BFL would have taken a page from BitSymCom's work ethic.
One possibility is that BFL's chips may be larger, yielding a higher hash rate per chip, higher (relative to smaller chips) TDP per chip, but fewer chipers per wafer.

Avalon's 110nm 7x7mm 48-QFN chips are slower but theoretically require no external heatsinking, merely PCB design heatsinking

BFL using a BGA package has their thermal pad on the top of the chip (Just like CPU/GPU/etcs with high TDP) and have the external heatsink added on top.  The QFN has it on the bottom.
417  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 12, 2013, 11:05:46 PM
BFL already broke many laws and regulations.  And they still have no FCC radiated emissions testing done.

Nobody cares, apparently.

Hmm, interesting. Can you point out the specific laws and regulations violated by Butterfly Labs? I'm genuinely curious, actually.
47 C.F.R. 15.1b for starters, unless they already have it licensed (I have seen nothing to that end except some empty talk many months ago)
418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL: Chips have shipped, on their way to US on: May 12, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
I've noticed that this phone of bfl's chip have geostamp pointing to Unive in Fremont, CA: http://ow.ly/i/1EM8o
The company produces ASICs from 130nm to 600nm.



Ummm,...


Hypothetically, let's say the Fab has an updated web site.


Would this mean there is a possibility that BFL's ASIC's are not, in fact, 65 nm.


And, if so, that would constitute quite a serious charge of fraud.


Surely, they wouldn't be so careless.  Disregard.  Or speculate.  Whatevs.

(I'll just leave this here.  BFL chip power spec 5x what was 'anticipated')

That'd be hilarious, I recall seeing someone from the Avalon team suggesting this possibility months ago



Hilarious, maybe.  But there would be serious criminal charges.  Even if only part of the solution is 65 nm (ie - one of the ancillary chips) a jury would convict BFL after hearing the evidence.


So, I doubt BFL would have put themselves in such a position.  *shrugs*
BFL already broke many laws and regulations.  And they still have no FCC radiated emissions testing done.

Nobody cares, apparently.
419  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PSA: Malta 7990s are NOT suitable for mining! on: May 12, 2013, 10:15:19 PM
They seriously make 2x 8 pin 7990 cards?  That's really cutting it close.

I've got a 3x 8 pin powercooler 7990 on (unpowered) risers running fine @ ~1.08MH/sec, haven't fined tuned it much.  2x would be very ugly
420  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Got 18x6870 - Need Advice on MOBO/PSU/Risers on: May 12, 2013, 09:52:51 PM
Hi,

I just placed an order for 18x 6870. Those should arrive early next week.

I would like someone to give me advise on what MOBO's should i get? I would like to keep it in 3 rigs (6 cards each(preferably)). What about PSU? Also RAM? how much ram do i need for LTC mining?

More importantly psi x extenders, which ones should i get? how many powered extenders?

Also, can i use 1x to 16x extender on 16x slot? or does it have to be 16x to 16x?

Any information would be really helpful.

I will send few LTC if your post is helpful, I might need to split the coins for multiple people.

Thanks alot!

Here comes a fire  Cheesy

No fire. I've seen massive GPU farms that run more than 12 rigs at once. Just google mining rigs and hold your eyes in. People make some insane stuff man. 3 rigs is nothing

I'm implying a fire as a result of OP's lack of experience. Why anyone would start big when they clearly have no clue what they're doing is beyond me.

Lack of experience doesn't mean anything. I assembled my first computer not knowing one iota of how to do it. All I had was an anti-static wristband and that was it. Got it assembled, BIOS programmed, and everything done on my own. OP is perfectly able to build three rigs. I'm sure he will come asking questions when he receives the hardware. Also, who knows if he has built a computer before? He came asking for hardware dedicated to the purpose of mining Bitcoins and Altcoins. I came asking about how >4 GPU rigs even worked, and got multiple answers. This board is a source of help, so we give help. He'll be fine.
The second you use PCI risers you're doing things that the standards are not made to handle.

They're expecting to be able to pull wattage from the PCI slot.  Combine this with OC'ing and running them 24/7.. it can be dangerous.
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